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Question of the Day: Which Self-Defense Gun for Disabled Shooters?
The Truth About Guns ^ | 15 February, 2012 | Eric

Posted on 02/16/2012 5:20:08 AM PST by marktwain

I had a very pleasant 70-year-old patient in today. He is disabled from multiple sclerosis and bound to a motorized wheelchair. I was evaluating him for hand weakness. He mentioned that his weakness was leading to malfunctions when shooting his Glock 19. I mentioned limp wristing, and he picked up that I was also a shooter. That led to a very pleasant discussion . . .

He mentioned that he does not carry a pistol anymore due to his weakness and is considering a Taser. He wears a fanny pack with various essentials front and center and I think it would be a perfect place to conceal a pistol. No one is more vulnerable than the elderly, the disabled, and those among us who are both. Unfortunately, most pistols are made for the healthy.

What self defense handgun would you recommend for someone in this man’s position? I personally recommended that he look in some of the .22 WMR or .32 DA revolvers on the market, and consider a .38 if he can stand it. For a recoil sensitive person, I can’t imagine a better (or noisier) round than .22 WMR.

Do you guys agree, disagree have other recommendations?


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One commenter recommended the Beretta M84, a .380 with a tip up barrel.

I think this would be a highly individual decision, and each individual will have to try several firearms to see what works for them.

1 posted on 02/16/2012 5:20:14 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

In all seriousness, a Taurus Judge may be the best option for him.


2 posted on 02/16/2012 5:26:51 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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I would suggest that a Taser can typically only be fired once. So it depends on his individual needs, and his physical limitations, but a small caliber like the .380 makes sense.

Is he still living at home? Because nursing homes would likely frown on handguns.

Check this link out. It's titled “Handguns for Handicapped and Very Recoil Sensitive Shooters “

http://www.chuckhawks.com/handguns_handicapped_shooters.htm

3 posted on 02/16/2012 5:29:38 AM PST by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: marktwain

The Beretta 84 (I have one) is a tough slide to actuate. Requires quite a bit of muscle. The trigger is pleasant though. If he has a fanny pack, I would suggest the KelTec P30 .22magnum pistol.

It’s weight, easy of function and day-bright sighting would be my vote. Also, .22 mag comes in some pretty devasting rounds. It’s comparable even to my FN five-seven.


4 posted on 02/16/2012 5:30:26 AM PST by Celerity
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I recommend all new Shooters get a gun that is comfortable in your hand,, A 22 cal. pistol is good if you practice and know shot placement,, Mt personal in the small caliber would be a 17 HMR revolver
5 posted on 02/16/2012 5:38:08 AM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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In all seriousness, a Taurus Judge may be the best option for him.

Expand, please.

6 posted on 02/16/2012 5:41:10 AM PST by magslinger (Who cares if they are"electable" if they are going to govern like Democrats? -noprogs)
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It’s a revolver and he can fire varying types of ammo from .410 buckshot, birdshot, slugs and .45LC. I’d opt for the shot in his case to compensate for the potential problems he may have with control or accuracy.


7 posted on 02/16/2012 5:48:57 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: marktwain
I can relate to this. Though my situation isn't as bad, it is why I've shied away from getting a 12ga shotgun and looking at 20ga instead.

With my handguns it does take more effort to rack the slide on my 1911 'clone' 9mm due to an old left hand tendon injury that flairs up occasionally(1). But I can still rack my Mak okay and I still have my .38 Colt snubby with +Ps for 'old reliable'. So I'm set for a few years. As long as my eyesight's good a handgun will do the job for me just fine.

So for this man I'd say get .38 Snubby Revolver. He doesn't even need +P loads, Hollow Points will do the job for him. And it'll fit in his fanny pack perfectly. Taurus makes some fine wheel guns and for reasonable prices.

(1) was okay for decades then re-injured it trying to stretch for a Chuck Barry 'special' guitar chord. That man has hands and a finger stretch that's HUGH.

8 posted on 02/16/2012 5:57:04 AM PST by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: edpc

BUMP to Taurus Judge, loaded w .410 shells rather than the .45 colt.

The weight should hold down recoil.

I’ll leave it to others with immediate access to the patient to determine whether relaxing trigger action might be appropriate.


9 posted on 02/16/2012 5:59:52 AM PST by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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If he's having trouble with a 9mm he qualifies as a disabled shooter IMHO. Before you steer him toward a .45, etc, ax yourself if he's going to be able to shoot it the rest of his life.

"You might consider" a .22wmr revolver like this:

http://www.gunblast.com/Taurus-941Ultralite.htm

Smith makes a couple of good ones made for concealed carry too.

10 posted on 02/16/2012 6:02:51 AM PST by OKSooner (Today's new tagline. Tomorrow's new tagline pending.)
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A head-band laser like they use on sharks.


11 posted on 02/16/2012 6:09:58 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks Right-Wing.)
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The point that the person suggesting the M84 Beretta was that you do not have to operate the slide to load the pistol. You can tip up the barrel to insert the first round. Were they wrong in that assumption?


12 posted on 02/16/2012 6:13:43 AM PST by marktwain
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Take a look at a Walther P22. It’s a .22 caliber semiauto, small and light. It requires very little hand strength to put a round in the chamber. Best thing is that there’s virtually no felt recoil. 10 or 12 round magazine, IIRC.

A hit with a .22 is better than a miss with a .44.


13 posted on 02/16/2012 6:58:10 AM PST by Terabitten (I'd rather have one Walker than fourteen runners.)
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Ruger makes a couple of dandy little pocket pistols equipped with laser sights. The Ruger LCP in .380 caliber and the Ruger LC9 in 9mm.


14 posted on 02/16/2012 7:00:14 AM PST by Dedbone
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Polyframe Judge with PDX ammo used in SA mode. Also consider taking it to a smith to rework the hammer for more leverage to make it easier to cock and to also make the trigger easier to pull.


15 posted on 02/16/2012 7:01:38 AM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: edpc

Thank you.
How is the recoil of a Judge with .410? I’ve shot .410 and the recoil was negligible but that was in a .410/.22 over/under which probably has a lot more weight than the Judge.


16 posted on 02/16/2012 7:04:52 AM PST by magslinger (Who cares if they are"electable" if they are going to govern like Democrats? -noprogs)
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To: Dedbone

Yes, laser sights are important.


17 posted on 02/16/2012 7:06:24 AM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: marktwain

His at home wheel chair could have something mounted on it?
Carry gun could be any small cal. with a light trigger action that he’s comfortable with.


18 posted on 02/16/2012 7:14:42 AM PST by FishinTX (Barak Obama HATES you.)
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bound to a motorized wheelchair

Take advantage of his mounting platforms.

Claymores for example... ;-)

19 posted on 02/16/2012 8:23:03 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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Running out the door, so I'll be quick...

Range report: Smith and Wesson Governor. This last weekend we took a family members newly purchased Governor out (along with four 1911 clones) to try it out. For the record, I have always thought of the Judge and the Governor as "gimmick guns">

Not anymore, family member purchased the Governor for following reasons: Wanted something to pack around for stream fishing and possibility of running into angry black bear or other critter, wanted something for the occasional fool hen along the road, wanted something that would make shooting easier with aging eyesight (so he purchased the model with Crimson Trace laser grips)

We shot OOO Buck, Slugs, the Winchester PDX load (three disc's plus 12 BB's) and finally number #8 shot. Very satisfying was to watch the laser on a paper plate at 27' turn into several large holes (OOO buck). My recommendation would be the mild shooting PDX load for home use, I feel most anybody could comfortably shoot this load with the anticipated satisfactory result.

Will respond to any questions later in the day and try to post a short vid or two.

20 posted on 02/16/2012 9:24:43 AM PST by gettinolder (Smashed lips save ships.)
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