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Immigration Report Card: Obama, F-; Paul, D-; Gingrich, D; Romney, C+, Santorum, A-.
NumberUSA ^ | NumbersUSA

Posted on 02/14/2012 9:51:26 AM PST by dangus

Barrack Obama: F-

Ron Paul : D-

Newt Gingrich: D

Mitt Romney: C+

Rick Santorum: A-

Excerpts about Rick's grades STOPPING AMNESTIES Sen. Santorum earned an A+ on stopping amnesties while in Congress. And he has challenged his own Catholic Church leaders as well as other candidates for supporting the legalization of millions of people who have broken immigration laws.

MANDATE E-VERIFY. In 1996, Sen. Santorum voted against creating the program that became E-Verify. But on the campaign trail 15 years later, he has promised to push mandatory verification. He misses an EXCELLENT rating because he continues to talk about there perhaps being a better system that the private sector could run.

OVERALL IMMIGRATION NUMBERS: Sen. Santorum gave mixed signals through 2011 but at the beginning of 2012 he stated directly that overall immigration numbers [N.B.: "Overall immigration numbers," here, refers to legal and quasi-legal immigration] should come down. He misses an EXCELLENT rating because he at this time is advocating only about half the reductions recommended by the bi-partisan U.S. Commission on Immigration Reform.

END CHAIN MIGRATION: Sen. Santorum had a good chain migration voting record while in Congress and has improved, but not perfected, his stance on this issue. He has made it clear that immigrants should not be allowed to bring in their non-nuclear family, but he has not defined the terms or put forward a plan on how chain migration should be scaled back.

END VISA LOTTERIES: Although Sen. Santorum supported the visa lottery during his time in the Senate, he has since come out against the lottery, even calling it "silly." Santorum receives an Excellent in this category.

LIMIT UNFAIR WORKER COMPETITION: While in Congress, Sen. Santorum worked to bring more foreign workers into the United States and he continued this message early in his campaign. However, he has moderated his stance on foreign workers and has even recognized that economic factors may necessitate reducing the number of foreign workers the United States imports.

END BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP: [for children of illegal aliens born on U.S. soil] Sen. Santorum in 2011 debates has strongly supported building the fence, backing it with sufficient personnel, as well as mentioning the need to stop employers from creating the incentive with jobs.

SUPPORT LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT [of immigration law, and deportation processes] Sen. Santorum has come out strong in support of state and local law enforcement agencies that want to help the federal government to enforce immigration laws. For this reason, he receives an Excellent grade.

PUNISH BUSINESS VIOLATORS [who hire illegal aliens] During his time in the United States Senate, Sen. Santorum was not forced to vote on legislation dealing with employers who hire illegal aliens. But during a debate on Sept. 12, 2011, Sen. Santorum said we should enforce existing laws with respect to employers who knowingly hire illegal aliens.

Why are we such tough graders? The ratings and grades reflect an urgency about the 22 million Americans who want a job but can't find one (the government's "U-6" unemployment category) and about the federal government continuing to force massive population growth while the nation is unable to meet its infrastructure and environmental goals with the current population size. Refusal to deal with a specific immigration category draws an "Unhelpful" rating. Merely avoiding "bad" immigration positions and drawing an “Unhelpful” in all the categories will result in a “D-minus” grade.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; aliens; backstabbersantorum; cheaplabor; elections; freeperheadsexplode; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigration; nobama2012; ricksantorum; santorum; trustbutverify
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1 posted on 02/14/2012 9:51:33 AM PST by dangus
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To: dangus

Oops. Two different parapgraphs got combined, losing some content, and creating a strange context:

END BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP: [for children of illegal aliens born on U.S. soil] Unhelpful: During his time in the United States Senate, Sen. Santorum did not take any action on birthright citizenship and has not discussed the issue since leaving the Senate.

SUPPORT LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT: Excellent: Sen. Santorum in 2011 debates has strongly supported building the fence, backing it with sufficient personnel, as well as mentioning the need to stop employers from creating the incentive with jobs.


2 posted on 02/14/2012 9:55:33 AM PST by dangus
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To: dangus

Oops. Two different parapgraphs got combined, losing some content, and creating a strange context:

END BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP: [for children of illegal aliens born on U.S. soil] Unhelpful: During his time in the United States Senate, Sen. Santorum did not take any action on birthright citizenship and has not discussed the issue since leaving the Senate.

SUPPORT LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT: Excellent: Sen. Santorum in 2011 debates has strongly supported building the fence, backing it with sufficient personnel, as well as mentioning the need to stop employers from creating the incentive with jobs.


3 posted on 02/14/2012 9:55:51 AM PST by dangus
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To: dangus

I kinda like the Way Newt handles illegals that have been here for a long time, give them a residency permit (which means they stay and pay taxes, but cannot vote). This would take away power from the demon rat’s “base”.

Basically if you want to stay since you broke such a baisc law by comming here, there are consequences and you cannot vote.

So in essence insteaqd of becomming a citizen, you become a resident alien.


4 posted on 02/14/2012 9:57:27 AM PST by GraceG
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To: dangus
NumbersUSA is the go to ratings agency on immigration issues. They are as fair and complete there as Club for Growth is with economic issues.

I have one mild disagreement with NumbersUSA. They have a stated goal of reducing overall immigration numbers. I believe such a stated goal is both unnecessary and potentially inflammatory.

If you raise quality standards for accepting immigrants, you avoid the accusations of xenophobia and achieve the same result.

5 posted on 02/14/2012 10:00:08 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman
"NumbersUSA is the go to ratings agency on immigration issues."

Clearly, their rating system has deep fundamental flaws if they rate Santorum the highest. Obviously they are a bunch of Romney stalking horse, GOP establishment talking point promoting RINOs. < /sarc>

6 posted on 02/14/2012 10:03:50 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: dangus

This is a huge issue for me. We need an admin who doesn’t coddle criminals simply because they reproduce.

The pity the grandma thing doesn’t work.


7 posted on 02/14/2012 10:05:48 AM PST by Yaelle (Go Santorum!)
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To: Vigilanteman

I think their point is to shake up the issue a bit: One of their main themes is that a liberal immigration policy isn’t compassionate, but causes hardship in both countries, the emigrated-from country, and the immigrated-to country. As long as people believe immigration in general is a good thing, they remained inclined to allow some bad (illegal) immigration along with some good immigration; People figure, “Sure, it’s wrong, but it’s good for the economy.”

Numbers counters this by pointing out the ways that immigration is bad for America’s economy, and stifles development oversees. And that’s not their conclusion alone: they use the Barbara Jordan Commission, authorized by the Clinton White House, and the Center for Immigration Studies.


8 posted on 02/14/2012 10:06:09 AM PST by dangus
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To: dangus

At this point I’m supporting Gingrinch, but will admit that Santorum has staked out far better positions on immigration than any of the other candidates.

Credit to Santorum for that.


9 posted on 02/14/2012 10:09:35 AM PST by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: GraceG

>>>I kinda like the Way Newt handles illegals that have been here for a long time, give them a residency permit (which means they stay and pay taxes, but cannot vote). This would take away power from the demon rat’s “base”.

Basically if you want to stay since you broke such a baisc law by comming here, there are consequences and you cannot vote.

So in essence insteaqd of becomming a citizen, you become a resident alien.<<<

The consequences should be deportation at a minimum and perhaps hefty fines and imprisonment prior to deportation.

Why should illegals who have been breaking the law, stealing identities, stealing social services, stealing medical care, evading taxes, etc, for LONGER get a preferential treatment?

If anyting, long-term illegals should be treated more harshly than short-term ones.

Would you go easier on someone who has been committing armed robberies or dealing drugs for 25 years, than you would on somene who has been doing it for only a few months?

Besides that, do you really think that resident aliens, illegal aliens, felons and dead people don’t vote and vote Democrat in huge numbers?


10 posted on 02/14/2012 10:11:29 AM PST by Above My Pay Grade
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To: dangus

Illegal immigrants are government growth hormone.

If there are 30 million illegals in America, that’s enough to make up nearly 50 new congressional districts (primarily democrat) and all the expenses incurred by them. Anyone who doesn’t work to stop it is a traitor to America.


11 posted on 02/14/2012 10:13:12 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

Well Newt’s plan is certainly a LOT better than Dem-Amnesty that we would get with an Obumma 2nd term.


12 posted on 02/14/2012 10:20:12 AM PST by GraceG
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To: dangus; All

Santorum:
Voted AGAINST increasing the number of immigration investigators:
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00201

VOTED AGAINST HIRING AN ADDITIONAL 1,000 BORDER PATROL AGENTS, paid for by reductions in state grants.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00179

VOTED TO GIVE SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=105&session=1&vote=00058

Voted to allow illegal immigrants to receive the earned income credit before becoming citizens.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00154


13 posted on 02/14/2012 10:23:32 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: dangus
It is a good point but, I think, lost on most people.

We had at least one chucklehead in the U.S. Senate saying we should award a green card with every U.S. college diploma awarded to a foreigner.

Hello?

  1. What about U.S. kids who earned the same degree and now have the value of that degree devaluated by a biggers supply of competitors?
  2. What about foreign governments or other agencies who invested in their young person's education with the expectation that they would use it to help advance their home country?

The idea that any immigration is a good thing is stupid. The idea that any immigration is a bad thing is equally stupid.

14 posted on 02/14/2012 10:28:05 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: dangus

Good to know about this. It’s a big issue for me, and I trust NumbersUSA.


15 posted on 02/14/2012 10:32:02 AM PST by greene66
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To: patriot08

Have you sent this info to NumbersUSA? Just curious if these votes are already factored into Santorum’s score.


16 posted on 02/14/2012 10:53:34 AM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: dangus

Hmmm...and that’s why he broke ranks with the GOP Senators to vote to confirm the Wise Latina, Sonya Sotomayor, as Circuit Court judge?


17 posted on 02/14/2012 10:57:30 AM PST by livius
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To: dangus

Too bad his history doesn’t show a tough stand against amnesty.

He’s also pro-unions.

BLECCCH !


18 posted on 02/14/2012 11:12:42 AM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: dangus

ah, e-verify

Can you name the one candidate you listed who can not pass e-verify? Hint, he needs to be removed from the Whitehouse this fall.


19 posted on 02/14/2012 11:14:15 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: Above My Pay Grade; Yaelle

When we start hearing about prison for those who ignored immigration enforcement both in federal government and those businesses who employed illegals all these many years, then I will entertain these ridiculous radical measures being piously thrown around against Mexicans and their families.

The problem I have with the bloody rigidity of round up, kick butt, kick out at all costs, language is how oblivious is to thinking or any interest in the whole story.

It’s always the rowdy language of those content to put the entire fault of immigration on the backs of the illegals.

The cause of the mass invasion of Mexicans has been by sheer and open, even begging invitation of your own neighbors, the Feds and American business.

Cash, comfort and eventually even benefits were showered on these people for damn decades, that is if they could survive the trip itself, and now the abuses of physical and sexual assault, robbery and murder, if they would only come and pick that lettuce, and trim those hedges for me, clean that fridge, and at such low pay too! (Chuckle, chuckle, snort.)

The entire cause from the beginning to the end was/is/remains the fault of your trusty government, your neighbor, and Minute Maid, Dole’s Fruit, etc., etc. To lend a monicum of consideration for the facts of the OPEN INVITATION gets you a curse, a poke in the chest, or worse if you’re not on the round up, kick butt, kick out train gang.

For someone to ignore the OPEN INVITATION and cuss the grandmothers for this condition after 30 years of living and working here, whose family was born here, and whose children have kids by now who have likely never even seen Mexico is a circumstance worthy of little consideration. One size fits all won’t even work for a bath robe, and certainly is beneath the concept of applying to a human being.

The feds have scoffed at enforcement for decades, filed it in number thirteen, and thrown away the key to the rules book.

Cry me a river. The perpetrators need to be dealt with before we get foxy on the Mexican, the illegal.


20 posted on 02/14/2012 12:01:33 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. Newt knows where all the bodies are buried, because he buried them.)
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