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Obama plays his Catholic allies for fools
Washington Post ^ | 1-30-12 | Michael Gerson

Posted on 01/31/2012 9:42:41 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic

In politics, the timing is often the message. On Jan. 20 — three days before the annual March for Life — the Obama administration announced its final decision that Catholic universities, hospitals and charities will be compelled to pay for health insurance that covers sterilization, contraceptives and abortifacients.

Preparing for the march, Catholic students gathered for Mass at Verizon Center. The faithful held vigil at the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception. Knights of Columbus and bishops arrived to trudge in the cold along the Mall. All came to Washington in time for their mocking.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; bho2012; bhocorruption; bhofascism; bhohealthcare; catholic; catholicvote; contraception; corruption; democrats; elections; marchforlife; moralabsolutes; nobama2012; obama; obamacare; proaborts; socialjustice

1 posted on 01/31/2012 9:42:50 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: narses; NYer; Salvation

ping


2 posted on 01/31/2012 9:44:16 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

They lined up to be his fools.


3 posted on 01/31/2012 9:46:00 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: afraidfortherepublic

How many Catholics will vote for 0 again in ‘12? I don’t see the ones who voted for him in ‘08 changing their minds in ‘12.


4 posted on 01/31/2012 9:49:03 AM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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5 posted on 01/31/2012 9:55:47 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Plenty of people take great pride in being played for fools.


6 posted on 01/31/2012 10:00:08 AM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (The only economic certainty: When it all blows up, Krugman will say we didn't spend enough.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

That’s OK, Roman Catholics will still vote for the Marxist, Socialist, communist, Anti-American, Anti-semitic, Anti-capitalist, Anti-Christian, Pro-illegal alien, Pro-Muslim, Pro-”Social Justice” Obammessiah in droves.


7 posted on 01/31/2012 10:07:16 AM PST by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Why would anyone who could be convinced to vote for a an acheivement free Obama in the first place be expected not to vote for him for re-election?
Afterall,he deserves another chance to prove himself.

In four years when our debt is 40-50% of GDP, and unemployment is 10-15?%, these same people may conclude we may have taken the wrong course..maybe?


8 posted on 01/31/2012 10:07:46 AM PST by Leep (It's gonna be a Newt day!)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Obama is forcing the Bishops hand to close the hospitals. This will create a crisis that he will not go to waste. Church ownership of these hospitals is in the way of total government healthcare. He will seize them like GM after “demonizing” the Catholic Church..


9 posted on 01/31/2012 10:08:44 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

SEAN HANNITY: But Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not backing down and has not for years and in his strong stance on the teaching of black liberation theology is nothing new. He had the same things to say last spring when he appeared on "Hannity & Colmes:"

WRIGHT: If you're not going to talk about theology in context, if you're not going to talk about liberation theology that came out of the '60s, systematized black liberation theology that started with Jim Cone in 1968 and the writings of Cone and the writings of Dwight Hopkins and the writings of womynist theologians and Asian theologians and Hispanic theologians, then you can't talk about the black value system.

HANNITY: But I'm a — reverend

WRIGHT: Do you know liberation theology, sir?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html
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"Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal".--James (Jim) Cone,
African American Religious Thought: An Anthology (Paperback)
by Cornel West (Editor), Eddie S. Glaude Jr. (Editor)
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Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02
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Catholics for Marx [Liberation Theology]
By Fr. Robert Sirico
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004

In the days when the Superpowers were locked in a Cold War, Latin America seethed with revolution, and millions lived behind an iron curtain, a group of theologians concocted a novel idea within the history of Christianity. They proposed to combine the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism.

The Gospels were re-rendered not as doctrine impacting on the human soul but rather as windows into the historical dialectic of class struggle. These "liberation theologians" saw every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to expropriate the expropriating owners of capital, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for an uprising by the proletarian class of peasants and workers.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=460782B7-35CC-4C9E-A2C5-93832067C7CD

10 posted on 01/31/2012 10:10:21 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

[ The faithful held vigil at the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception. ]

Would that make “IT” the “the National Shrine of the Immaculate UN-Conception.”


12 posted on 01/31/2012 10:40:07 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Isn’t there a Catholic left, i.e. Pelosi? Then, it stand to reason they will vote o back in.


13 posted on 01/31/2012 10:49:54 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: afraidfortherepublic

When you look to the State to enact your moral principles (liberation theology, Christian Service, alms giving, the Beatitudes, whatever you want to call unconstitutional redistributionism), the State becomes your religion.

Misguided Catholic fools. Freedom is the ultimate principle that religious people should demand from their government.


14 posted on 01/31/2012 10:50:16 AM PST by LALALAW (one of the asses whose sick of our "ruling" classes)
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To: Bitsy

The Catholic Left is being split over this issue. Of course, there are many in that faction who don’t understand that they are not really Catholic, but modernists or gnostics, or whatever, so totally confused as they are. A not well-told story is how they took over many sections of the Church after Vatican II. Many.many nominal Catholics have been inbued with this doctrine.


15 posted on 01/31/2012 11:12:51 AM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: RobbyS

A not well-told story is how they took over many sections of the Church after Vatican II.

I grew up STRICT Catholic but that was years ago. I don’t understand the substance of Vatican II. But, I notice the left Catholics doen’t seem to adhere to most teaching in the Bible or the constitution for that matter. It amazes me how any truth or law can be twisted by the wrong people.


16 posted on 01/31/2012 11:55:39 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: Bitsy

Well, the Left gives lip service to Catholic dogma. The adherents to the Jesuit philosopher Teilhard De Chardin seized the opportunity to push for a “reformatIon” of Church teachings. As Jacques Maritain said about them in 1965, they genuflect to the world. They embrace what liberalProtestants call the “Social Gospel,” and portray Jesus as a social and political reformer, rather than God incarnate. Of course, not in so many words. Rather they recaste Christian teachings in ambiguous language. Still at heart they reduce all religion to a tool of politics.


17 posted on 01/31/2012 1:16:51 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: RobbyS

Jesuit philosopher Teilhard De Chardin
In other words, they take the words of Chardin before the Holy Scripture? Or do they interpret the Bible as do the extremists do the Koran? And, why hasn’t there been a loud voice from the Catholic authority? But, it is as Jesus said about those who would mislead in the last days.


18 posted on 01/31/2012 1:53:09 PM PST by Bitsy
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To: Bitsy

They reject the dogma that is the basis of the Bible. As to the last times, we are always in the Last Times, and the first days of the Kingdom. Yes, we are finding that the bishops have just now found their voices, and listening to the popes once more. One of the objectives of the “reformers” was to “kick the pope up stairs” and gag him. If you read the encyclicals of the last two popes, they speak loudly enough.


19 posted on 01/31/2012 1:58:26 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Bitsy

They reject the dogma that is the basis of the Bible. As to the last times, we are always in the Last Times, and the first days of the Kingdom. Yes, we are finding that the bishops have just now found their voices, and listening to the popes once more. One of the objectives of the “reformers” was to “kick the pope up stairs” and gag him. If you read the encyclicals of the last two popes, they speak loudly enough.


20 posted on 01/31/2012 1:58:40 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: LALALAW

“Hey, you mean I can feel good about myself for simply _advocating_ ‘social justic’, and I won’t actually have to DO anything to satisfy my obligation to help others?”

The siren song of “Social Justice” through the State.


21 posted on 01/31/2012 2:02:28 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: RobbyS

Is that why Pelosi, et al can be for abortion and homosexuality but call themselves devout Christians? Because they don’t believe the Scriptures are the holy word of God and God inspired?


22 posted on 01/31/2012 2:23:56 PM PST by Bitsy
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To: afraidfortherepublic

If Catholics support pro-abortion rats, then they must know that God will condemn them. If they don’t they’re stupid and will join their buddy Ted Kennedy in his present place of residence.


23 posted on 01/31/2012 3:53:45 PM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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Updated: *116* Bishops Speak Out Against Obama/HHS Mandate The Catholics are endorsing Santorum for president http://www.catholicvote.org/index.php?/site/


24 posted on 01/31/2012 4:05:16 PM PST by anglian
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To: Bitsy

Because they don’t accept the authority of Catholic dogma, which is essentially an interpretation of Scripture. But of course even Holy Scripture is not, for them, truly the Word of God, except in some poetical sense.


25 posted on 01/31/2012 8:38:20 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: anglian

But there are more than 200 bishops.


26 posted on 01/31/2012 8:39:33 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: RobbyS

But of course even Holy Scripture is not, for them, truly the Word of God, except in some poetical sense

Then, they are really neither Catholic or Christian and this fact should be brought to their attention. Why would they call themselves Catholic/Christian and spurn the very foundation of their faith. Priests/pastors have to become bold in denouncing that which contradicts the Word of God. People have to know they are going to hell and don’t even know it.


27 posted on 02/01/2012 6:23:31 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: Bitsy

Gnostic is a better description. Except they are not even consistent in that.Maybe Liberal Protestants, like many in the Episcopal and Lutheran church, like the ritual. even though they basically empty it of all its traditional meaning.


28 posted on 02/01/2012 6:56:04 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: RobbyS

Can you explain gnostic is simple terms? And, how do they come about their beliefs. I googled, and was suprised how many websites invite people to a different Christianity. The description was too complex for my brain to understand. I heard they have been around since after Christ’s time. It’s kind of scarey to me.


29 posted on 02/02/2012 6:27:26 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: Bitsy

Gnosticism was a kind of “movement” that affected Judaism and Christianity. With regards to Christianity, its main point came with the denial of the doctrine of the Incarnation and the denial of the God of Abraham. It denigates the body.all matter as corrupting the spirit. It keeps reappearing, as in the Abigensian movement of the Middle ages, which taught that procreation is evil. The spirit is all. True knowledge is reserved to the few.


30 posted on 02/02/2012 10:15:02 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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