Posted on 01/27/2012 4:52:50 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Santorum is not even in this debate. Where is your video of Santorum saying he wants a heathcare mandate?
There are no quotes at all from Santorum in this article to support the allegations.
51 posted on January 27, 2012 11:56:58 AM CST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!Ho)
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To: SeekAndFind
Upon further examination:
Erickson Was Wrong On Santorum And An Individual Health Care Mandate
VIDEO: Pennsylvania Senatorial Debate Oct. 30, 1994
52 posted on January 27, 2012 12:15:57 PM CST by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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Santorum is not even in the debate you sited???
Your video proves nothing. One would have to see the actual Voter's Guide, or better yet, one would have to see the actual questionnaire that Santorum filled out.
Have you seen either?
You are correct.
One would have to find a copy of the Voters Guide published by The League of Woman Voters of Pennsylvania. And better yet, one would have to find the questionnaire that Santorum filled out for the League of Woman Voters...all circa 1994.
With Medicare for everyone, you would have a single-payer system like Canada. With an individual mandate, presumably, you could choose among private insurers as long as the policy met some minimum coverage standards (like auto liability insurance in most states).
“I would support a government healthcare program only if it were rotgut cheap ...”
You know that (a rotgut cheap government healthcare program) would be an oxymoron!
“Those wanting a higher level of medical coverage would pay a private insurance for it.”
That's the UK/Canada system, but with important differences in how publicly funded health care is delivered in the two countries. (In the UK, almost all hospital-based health professionals are NHS employees, but in Canada virtually all are private.)
Yes, that's the genius of a federal system. States can experiment with programs, and others can learn from their successes and failures. It's obvious that RomneyCare has been a spectacular failure in Massachusetts, but as you said that's their problem not mine or yours. On the other hand, Wisconsin and several other states led the way in welfare reform back in the early 90s and their successes helped drive the federal reform in 1996.
1994, eh? Yeah, well, back in those days, I still had a few misguided ideas, too.
So, like anyone who’s willing to learn, he flipped. Let us know if he flops, mm-kay? (I won’t hold my breath.)
Good post.
It's worth noting that a health insurance mandate was a position once held by some conservatives to compensate for hospitals being required to treat patients who don't have insurance. It wasn't a means to fund government run health care like Obamacare.
Santorum has been disingenuous at best claiming that the Individual Mandate to purchase health insurance is in and of itself the core of Obamacare. The core of Obamacare is the forced take over of health care.
For the record, I'm against mandated health insurance and mandated health treatment. They are both unconstitutional.
Can anybody identify one candidate who is against unconstitutionally mandated health treatment?
I can't.
It is a ridiculous hit piece with no context or quotes. He fought against Hillary-care. Must be a sign that the liberals and Romney are not wanting Santorum to catch fire.
Thanks for the links. This destroys the allegation and exposes it for the lie that it is.
What video are you talking about? The link in #52 goes to a C-Span video with Rick Santorum stating his position on individual mandates and proposing Medical Savings Accounts. C-Span identifies it as Pennsylvania Senatorial Debate. It doesn't look like a debate to me, but Rick Santorum is definitely there! Nowhere does he say he's for a heath care mandate.
I also sent those links to Rush. I don't know if he used them, I was out for an hour or so. Someone up thread said Rush was refuting the Santorum was for individual mandates hit piece at the top of this thread, so maybe he did use them.
What’s pissing you off? Lying about Santorums record or nobody buying the lies?
Acussing me of lying jwash?
You lie.
You want the guy to prove a negative because Newt supported an individual mandate for a couple of decades? Santorum is and always has been a medical savings account guy. That’s the simple truth of the matter.
You betcha. Your accusing Santorum of hypocrisy and support of individual federal mandate. Correct?
OOT. I never lie here at FR. When I assert something about a candidates record I do it honestly and fairly to the best of my ability making sure to do my homework before I post it. Good, bad or indifferent. Of course everybody makes mistakes and if you did then I retract the lie thing. Did you make a mistake?
I can name one. Santorum is one that has never supported government mandated healthcare and has fought consistently for the rights of the individual. I think the video JellyBean posted proves that. In 1994 he was for de-linking government control of healthcare. Mitt and Newt can’t say the same. I don’t know where Paul stood in the past.
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