Posted on 01/24/2012 7:58:22 PM PST by Brown Deer
I have been reading speculation in the comments sections of a British newspaper about these countries threatening to use gold to pay Iran for oil. That is scary.
Truer words have seldom been said. I’ve said a few times he’d have been Mr. Smith Goes to Washington and the country and media (and more than a few here) want fire-in-the-belly charisma and rhetoric. I get that. But charisma doesn’t mean integrity and humility doesn’t mean a lack of passion as we Hoosiers know very well from what Daniels has accomplished here.
Graces and blessings!
Daniels is rumored to be the guy the DC GOP will throw into the race to stop NEWT once MITT fails. So that explains why praise for Daniels speech is not welcome.
If we were not in the middle of a campaign, the circumstances and attitude would be different. At this point, he is persona non grata from the anti-MITT forces.
Cooled reasoned logic is fine for Freepers who think and are knowledgeable. That's not the group that a response should be aimed toward.
Sounds like you all have a great Governor in Mitch. Congratulations. We should all be so lucky. But, for my money, the GOP response should be hard hitting and designed to move some of those smoes who aren't knoweldgable and actually thinking to themselves that Barraque Ubama made sense in his speech.
Maybe I just have a bad attitude.
Oldplayer
You are right on the money. I would have to do some research, but at some point I assume back in the 70s or 80s the British people faced an election like we now face,and they had a choice between a party(labor party)that wanted socialism (government control of healthcare and the key sectors of the economy and the conservative party that wanted the status quo as far as the economic system - free enterprise.
The people of England made the wrong choice and the socialist once in power started baby-sitting the people. Good for the first little while, but as history has shown us time after time, socialism finally proves to be a failed system and we have what we see in England today. It’s a total mess.
“It is a setup for a brokered convention....if romney does not take it in the primaries.....we will go to the point of spilling the blood of conservatives on the convention floor. We shall see.”
My take on Daniels, too.
I despise Romney and I will not vote for him even if he becomes our nominee.
I’m a Pat Buchanan, Joe Sobran paleoconservative from the alleged protectionist wing of the party and it’s barely conservative enough for me. I read Chronicles magazine, think Rush is too party-line and can’t stand Sean Hannity. I want to retch at being of the same mind of Bill Kristol and the Weekly Standard on Mitch Daniels but there you have it. :-)
I would vote for Daniels in a heartbeat.
.... Perhaps .... but he said it at a strategic and poignant time when people other than the "Chorus" just might be listening ..... Just sayin
This is not about what one person said or the other .... this is now the final stages of fighting socialism on our own soil .... The battle is now .... and we are NOW on the same team and must gather together NOW to fight this battle whether we like it or not. Otherwise this great nation may well just go down with a whimper and become a mere footnote of a couple hundred years in what might suffice in the history books of the future.
We may dream of what might have been .... However, the reality of events lay before us in this time that is called NOW.
What we do now is what will be written in the history books .... for all eternity.
What we wish that could have been ..... will be of no consequence.
Actually, I tend to agree. I was letdown by the tenor of the speech and to some extent, the content.
As academically correct as Mitch might have been, you had more passion and urgency in your short post than he had in his whole response.
When the GOP has a bit of the spotlight, they can't afford to waste it. (But they seem just all too happy to.)
Oldplayer
Thanks for the explanation... I was unaware of that. I thought Daniels was firm in his position of not running for POTUS under any circumstances.
Daniels called for a "truce on social issues" this time last year at CPAC. That speech was absolutely unforgivable. No one accuses Mitch Daniels of being a stupid man. He knew what he was saying and he will forever be held responsible for that speech which was designed to suck up to the national elitist brain dead of the party. If money is all that interests him as an issue, then he, like Romney, will have to depend on the money obsessives for support. Unlike Romney, I would still vote for Daniels if he were nominated (in the absence of any new gaffes on social or military or gun issues) but I would not lift a finger to see him nominated after the CPAC speech.
He is certainly miles ahead of Romney as a state governor on conservative issues generally, has little or no reputation for lying, and does not carry Romney's massive baggage, but being better than Romney is something that any GOP governor of any state can accurately claim. It is not enough.
Gingrich is not problem free but he has NEVER betrayed us like Daniels did with the CPAC speech. Whatever his flaws, Gingrich is and always has been one of us. He lost two Congressional races before winning, built his own caucus within the GOP House caucus, deposed the spineless Robert Michel as leader and led the GOP to majority status for the first time in several (four?) decades. He did a good job as Speaker and suffered rebellion in the ranks (one suspects because he was opposed to the level of special interest corruption as usual). He was succeeded by the ultra corrupt and dismally bland Dennis Hastert (whose district was just south of my own) who has continued his corruption here in Illinois after retiring and by weepy Boehner who, with McConnell in the Senate, has served as a gutless sockmonkey in the face of Obozo.
We do not incur the debt limit increases without their cowardice and dereliction in the face of the enemy. Now, to reassure the government dependent greedheads (that these trash serve faithfully: remember also TARP) that they can continue feeding at the taxpayers' trough in exchange for campaign money, they bludgeon the Tea Party freshmen into line (discrediting them in their districts) and elevate to positions of party leadership nothing but more lapdog servants of the special interests distinguished only by their corruption and utterly bland approach. Cowardly mice! Enough.
Oh I did not know that, thanks for the info. Well then he knows the problem and he knows exactly where we are headed if we don't turn this ship of state around fast. However as part of the Bush Admin is deserves a good deal of the blame too. As does the House and the Senate that went along with all the Bush spending. The Bush spending was bad, real bad but the Obama spending is downright criminal.
Herman Cain did a better job.
.... Sadly tho .... it does all seem fleeting .... doesn’t it :-(
Daniels, all TALK and no ACTION. Crummy RINO.
Maybe, just Maybe! with the will of Providence blessing us as He did our first Founding Fathers, we won't need a GOP response next year.
Dear God, rescue us soon! (And please make the Progressives have to respond to the SOTU for years to come.)
Oldplayer
I read a couple of articles today that said the gold for oil with Iran was a done deal but I do not believe it. Or I should say that I do not believe it at current dollar price of $1500/oz gold = 15 barrels of oil per ounce of gold. India alone would be sending 250 tons of gold per year to India now I could believe 50 barrels of oil/oz gold. But the real point is, is that the rest of the world is desperately looking for a way of getting off the US dollar as a world currency. They know as well as our leaders in D.C. that our debt is unsustainable and that at some point (soon) the dollar will collapse burning everyone holding US dollars.
yup2394871293 has been here for a year (since 1/21/2011) but your post is in all other respects well taken and on point. Watch yup2394871293 not specify whom he supports.
GD liar!
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