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Full transcript: Convo between cruise ship captain and port authority
http://www.wlsam.com ^ | 01-17-2012 | Staff

Posted on 01/17/2012 8:45:17 AM PST by Red Badger

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To: wbill
It's possible that the capt did turn the ship around and head for shore (or that the mutiny occurred just prior to the return to land).

Did the capt go below to assess the damage or at least the ocean inflow rate?

61 posted on 01/17/2012 11:41:59 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Lazlo in PA

Nor a Capt. Chesley Burnett “Sully” Sullenberger III.


62 posted on 01/17/2012 11:43:57 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: colorado tanker
"In that photo he strikes me not as a seaman, but as a guy who used his rank to party and get laid with the coolest passengers."

I was thinking he shoulda been The Lounge Act.

63 posted on 01/17/2012 11:45:03 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: dfwgator

Still looking for his strawberries.


64 posted on 01/17/2012 11:57:03 AM PST by onedoug
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To: billorites

Ok, Christopher Columbus and ..........

Just watched a youtube video of the Oceana sinking in the S. Atlantic.
Captain and crew abandoned ship, with their luggage. Left the passengers to fend for themselves.
Some of the entertainers took charge.


65 posted on 01/17/2012 12:03:40 PM PST by Vinnie
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To: Paladin2
The Captain, out of uniform:


66 posted on 01/17/2012 12:03:49 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Pollster1

No - I’ve worked with Philipinos, Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, Arabs, Aussies, and Thai - all of them would have said listing. English is the common language of OCEAN going vessels just like in the world of finance.

That being said - if I had been the PA - I’d have quit wasting my time after the first go round, sent a pilot onboard to lead the evacuation, and a harbor police to arrest the captain after his first delay in reboarding.

Absolutely no sense in this - every officer on the bridge - CO, OOD (or civilian equivalent), and Navigator should be charged and jailed. The others are duty bound to turn the bridge over to the CO and log their complaint if they feel he is putting the ship in harms way for no good reason. I saw something where the navigator may have protested and logged same, but haven’t seen follow up.

Any ships crew that was off the ship prior to the last passenger should be up for charges as well. The CO likely had a license that was “paid for” and not earned.


67 posted on 01/17/2012 12:05:53 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: SMARTY; longtermmemmory
The ferry with bow doors that failed was the Estonia. Sank in the Baltic with hundreds of deaths. I don't think there were any accusations of cowardice on the part of the crew in that case. Mistakes that contributed to the sinking, yes. Cowardice, no.

The liner that the Greek captain and crew abandoned and left the passengers to their fate was the Oceanos which sank off of South Africa. Everyone was saved though, no thanks to the captain.

68 posted on 01/17/2012 12:14:28 PM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: Lazlo in PA

that’s CONGRESSMAN Gopher...


69 posted on 01/17/2012 12:20:19 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: reed13k
Shipping is apparently dangerous:

Korean Tanker blowed up real good:

Norwegian coastal cruiser - on board explosion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOHEgtn2aKc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=i5tjtBmpZ8I

Freighter breakup on Xmas Ialand:

http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/content.php?sid=4680


70 posted on 01/17/2012 12:24:23 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Interesting Times

Thanks for the ping. No doubt, this recording will be played at his trial.


71 posted on 01/17/2012 12:40:54 PM PST by zot
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To: Paladin2

I’m well aware of how dangerous it is especially when landing aircraft on the stern or a flight deck, replenishing at sea, or dealing with heavy weather. I’m not even upset the capt changed course - but this idiot didn’t take soundings, bother to establish a visual nav team, or deal with the situation after it occurred as a responsible capt would.

That being said - the korean thing is still up for review as suspect of NK foul play, I thought I heard the Norwegian had something going on below decks in regards to hotwork, Looking at the xmas island freighter it wasn’t well maintained and appears to be the result of storm surge, oh and the russian sub fire was a result of hotwork and with exception of the SK ship all the others were alongside the pier - there is no excuse for running aground in todays age of GPS, fathometers, range finders, thrusters, and manual backups in calm weather....

but then it was dark, you can hear the CO talk to the PA about it - BAH, ship him over the side and keel-haul him mates, he’s a landlubber making as a mermaid - so let him swim.


72 posted on 01/17/2012 12:55:53 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Bubba Giuseppe will be his bunk “buddy” in a fine Italian prison.
When the captain gets out of prison he can probably get a job in our Treasury Dept. rearranging deck chairs.


73 posted on 01/17/2012 1:11:30 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

The title of the video is: “Il ‘saluto’ della Costa Concordia all’Isola del Giglio nel 2011”

There’s another video that appears the same simply titled: “Costa Concordia Agosto 2011”. I know when they were posted but it appears the video was taken last summer.


74 posted on 01/17/2012 1:15:34 PM PST by MtBaldy
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To: colorado tanker
The First Encounter's yoooou
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The Third Enocunter's Loooove....The Close Encounter's Sooooong!!!

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75 posted on 01/17/2012 1:34:13 PM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: reed13k
I was unaware of how commonly issues arise on the high seas these days. (Even the Russian tanker at Nome had engine problems heading out from Dutch Harbor, the first time.)

With Satellite Weather data, RADAR, GPS, all sorts of web based ship traffic position data, etc, it would seem that it is still a much more dangerous business than the Cruise Lines would lead one to believe (not including hiring cowboys as Captains - not that there is anything wrong with cowboys, they just shouldn't be allowed to drive the train...).

76 posted on 01/17/2012 1:39:32 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: reed13k

It also explains why so many Navy Captains have their careers cut short.


77 posted on 01/17/2012 1:41:21 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: MtBaldy

He probably beached the boat because he couldn’t swim!


78 posted on 01/17/2012 1:44:53 PM PST by Randy Larsen (God bless you Pam, You made us happy even though you were in great pain!)
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To: Paladin2

Well given the number of vessels that are out there your bound to have problems - the main driver is lack of proper maintenance on breakdowns - one thing the Navy did right in my mind was a solid preventative maintenance system. After that the major issues become mental mistakes - often driven by alcohol and drugs (it can get lonely on the high seas, but even there modern conveniences have eliminated the majority of past concerns with dvds, video games, some oilers have swimming pools for gods sake). Third I would say is improper training or overly quick promotions.

As to the cruise liners I think the big thing to worry about is the airborne pathogens - I’ve heard of more than a few cruises where 1/2 the people onboard got sick. They tend to keep a good clamp on that news with vouchers for another cruise provided you sign an agreement to keep quiet.... but every once in a while it gets out in the press.


80 posted on 01/17/2012 1:56:09 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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