Posted on 01/16/2012 3:04:51 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB
FOREST LAKE, Minn. - A Forest Lake homeowner says he is livid about an "outrageous, unnecessary ending to a great wildlife story" after a police officer came onto his property at about 7 a.m. on Saturday and shot two orphaned fawns that often slept in the dog house at close range without warning. Jeff Carpenter contacted FOX 9 News about the weekend shooting, saying an officer "brutally gunned down" the twin, 6-month-old fawns his family had come to love thirty yards from his home. Carpenter said he was working in the home office when he was startled by a shotgun blast just outside the garage. At first, he thought frost may have cracked the concrete because of the cold, but he heard another shot ring out a few minutes later near the deck area.
(Excerpt) Read more at myfoxtwincities.com ...
"The DNR told Forest Lake police that if they spotted the animals, to kill them on sight. "That's what happened," Salo said, emphasizing that neither the DNR nor the Forest Lake police knew Carpenter or his land had a connection to the animals."
Also:
"The DNR often solicits help from law enforcement agencies because the DNR has limited staff, Salo said." http://www.twincities.com/ci_19752411
maybe they thought they were black labs. ;)
And the highly-trained, situationally-aware cops had absolutely no idea that people were at home at the property where they had quietly infiltrated and unleashed shotgun blasts.
I’m not asking a question - I’m making a statement. Move along.
A Forest Lake homeowner says he is livid about an “outrageous, unnecessary ending to a great wildlife story” after a police officer came onto his property at about 7 a.m. on Saturday and shot two orphaned fawns that often slept in the dog house at close range without warning.
Personally I would like to know if a Warrant was issued that allowed the Police Officer onto the Private Property especially with the intent of discharging a firearm.
If not then I would be suing the Officer Personally and his Department as well as the DNR secondly.
If Private property rights are not vigorously defended then they will be stolen away by the state.
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The cop probably mistook them for dogs. I was thinking the same thing.
“The DNR told Forest Lake police that if they spotted the animals, to kill them on sight.”
“Also Sprach Der Obermensch!”
The government trough feeders are now convinced they both run the asylum AND that they have unlimited power to act out their power trip delusions.
Good God.
Whenever I ask why police don't routinely patrol my neighborhood, it's always the same reason - manpower shortage.
Yet for many things, like this story, there is always ample manpower to go around.
My own personal opinion - when murder, rape, and burglary are down to zero, I'm OK with the rest. Until then, anything else is just a waste of time - and that includes radar traps!
Gonna be a nice weekend Pooleece and Bird Sheriff cookout. Emmm, fine tender tasty fawns!
I said no such thing. :-)
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Oh deer!
“The DNR told Forest Lake police that if they spotted the animals, to kill them on sight.”
The DNR and Forest Lake police kill little Bambis? Why? What threat do they/did they present?
Then there’s the whole trespass issue and discharge of a firearm.
it’s like education...always “underfunded” :)
And the above is just my knee-jerk reaction to anything involving Deer like creatures.
seems to me there was no “exigent circumstances”.
they should have at least warned the locals, “hey, were shooting deer nearby real soon. stay inside.”
Anyone - ANYONE - who comes unannounced onto my property and starts discharging a firearm near my house will be met with overwhelming, accurate return fire.
This cop needs to be terminated and banned from ever handling firearms again for this stupid and reckless action. This will not happen because he is undoubtedly a union cop.
The homeowner is lucky that the moron with the badge didn’t shoot him too and claim that he was being threatened.
I am completely fed up with goobermint union goons who think that we are their servants. Their time is coming - and soon.
did they have the chronic wasting disease?
only reason I could see to order a shoot on sight.
It was just a matter of time before shooting puppies just didn’t give him the same thrill anymore, and he had to move on to cuter, more defenseless prey. Puppies are just a gateway animal!
How does anything sleep in a (dog) house at close range? And does one need a warning sleeping at close range?
Apparently today's journalists haven't learned elementary English sentence structure.
Amen to that!
when I’m in the dog house, I try to stay out of range of Mrs Wobbly.
This is the heart of the problem, and it's heartbreaking when it comes to public attention in a story like this. But it's no less awful (maybe more) when you're going through TSA security or just trying to get an answer to a simple question at some government office.
Brilliant post.
Sleeping fawns
Dog house
House
Distance to house
Distance to Forest Part policeman
Range to house
Range to sleeping fawns
These things need definition. I suggest it is dangerous to sleep close range to whoever in the DNR sent out the order to “shoot (the ‘animals’) on sight.”
And THIS was their entire reason:
“The DNR said it had received several reports of collared deer in the area of Highway 97 and North Shore Trail, and e-mailed the Forest Lake Police Department to recommend that officers dispatch the deer if they were located because they ‘were **probably** captured and collared illegally.’”
They were collared, for G-d’s sake.
“Apparently today’s journalists haven’t learned elementary English sentence structure. “
I see it so often, apparently it isn’t required to get the job.
pics here with their colored collars on:
http://www.twincities.com/ci_19752411
Pu**** afraid of attack fawns.
I hope these shooters get what they deserve.
>>They were collared, for G-d’s sake.<<
Why were they collared?
What are “collared deer”?
Collard greens I know, but not collared deer. Is this along the lines of feeding wild animals that are on your property? Do we outlaw bird feeders now? As in the actual people who feed birds (and other animals that show up for the bird seed)?
So far this years winner in the brain dead trough feeder sweepstakes
Did he read them their rights first?
What kind of insane reasoning is this?
The Minnesota Department of Natural Resources blames Jeff and LeeAnn Carpenter for taking in the animals without notifying state or local officials, and affixing them with identifying collars. The identifying collars acted as a signal that the animals could not be regarded as wild - and thus posed a potential health threat to wild animals.
Diseases can fester among animals in captivity, Capt. Greg Salo, regional supervisor for the DNR’s enforcement division, said Monday.
“If he had contacted us, I think we could have corrected the problem without having to destroy them,” Salo said. “The minute he took them as fawns and put collars on them, he sealed their fate.”
Seems like they have children...who will now be traumatized by this attack. How do you explain this to your children? You tell them cops are the good guys, then they march onto your property and kill two pet deer
“...Salo said. “The minute he took them as fawns and put collars on them, he sealed their fate.”
Its ALWAYS the fault of the peon. The DNR and LEO fascists cannot EVER make a mistake.
I wonder, is legal to shoot wolves in this state?
Police shot and killed two young deer Saturday in the Forest Lake yard where they had spent more than seven months, infuriating the homeowner who had taken the animals in.
The sentence makes it sound like the deer spent seven months infuriating the homeowner. Where do they find these writers?!
There’s a pic of the man with one of the fawns when it wasn’t very old at his YouTube of the incident here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c6ZceLVtqE
The guy has 10 acres. This has to be about showing the ‘little people’ who’s boss.
Okay, the humans are stupid for putting collars on the deer. They are not pets and can’t be kept as such, practically or legally.
Whether it needed to be handled exactly this way is very much open to debate. But in a state where deer are pretty much long-legged vermin, how much effort must be expended to deal with them ?
Those two deer in question had collars and were obviously adults. The two fawns were not collared and clearly killed without reason and by a grievous mistake in orders............
I try to believe that if I was in that cops position, I would have questioned the orders several times as well as confirmation that these two fawns were the intended target......
With that being said, I would have requested a replacement because I couldn't have done it......
I wonder if anyone would get in trouble if they went to the cop’s yard and discharged a shotgun.
Reread the article, the two deer in question were collared.......the fawns were not. This was a case of the cops not listening to their instructions.......
If the Homeowner had shot the fawns because they were orphaned, the DNR would be seizing his house...
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