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Andrew Sullivan: How Obama's Long Game Will Outsmart His Critics
http://www.thedailybeast.com ^ | 1/16/12

Posted on 01/16/2012 2:02:32 PM PST by TeaPartyId

"On the economy, the facts are these. When Obama took office, the United States was losing around 750,000 jobs a month. The last quarter of 2008 saw an annualized drop in growth approaching 9 percent. This was the most serious downturn since the 1930s, there was a real chance of a systemic collapse of the entire global financial system, and unemployment and debt—lagging indicators—were about to soar even further. No fair person can blame Obama for the wreckage of the next 12 months, as the financial crisis cut a swath through employment.

The job collapse bottomed out at the beginning of 2010, as the stimulus took effect. Since then, the U.S. has added 2.4 million jobs. That’s not enough, but it’s far better than what Romney would have you believe, and more than the net jobs created under the entire Bush administration. In 2011 alone, 1.9 million private-sector jobs were created, while a net 280,000 government jobs were lost. Overall government employment has declined 2.6 percent over the past 3 years. (That compares with a drop of 2.2 percent during the early years of the Reagan administration.) To listen to current Republican rhetoric about Obama’s big-government socialist ways, you would imagine that the reverse was true.

The right claims the stimulus failed because it didn’t bring unemployment down to 8 percent in its first year, as predicted by Obama’s transition economic team. Instead, it peaked at 10.2 percent. But the 8 percent prediction was made before Obama took office and was wrong solely because it relied on statistics that guessed the economy was only shrinking by around 4 percent, not 9. Remove that statistical miscalculation (made by government and private-sector economists alike) and the stimulus did exactly what it was supposed to do.

On foreign policy, the right-wing critiques have been the most unhinged. Romney accuses the president of apologizing for America, and others all but accuse him of treason and appeasement. Instead, Obama reversed Bush’s policy of ignoring Osama bin Laden, immediately setting a course that eventually led to his capture and death. And when the moment for decision came, the president overruled both his secretary of state and vice president in ordering the riskiest—but most ambitious—plan on the table. He even personally ordered the extra helicopters that saved the mission. It was a triumph, not only in killing America’s primary global enemy, but in getting a massive trove of intelligence to undermine al Qaeda even further. If George Bush had taken out bin Laden, wiped out al Qaeda’s leadership, and gathered a treasure trove of real intelligence by a daring raid, he’d be on Mount Rushmore by now. But where Bush talked tough and acted counterproductively, Obama has simply, quietly, relentlessly decimated our real enemies, while winning the broader propaganda war. Since he took office, al Qaeda’s popularity in the Muslim world has plummeted.

Under Bush, new policies on taxes and spending cost the taxpayer a total of $5.07 trillion. Under Obama’s budgets both past and projected, he will have added $1.4 trillion in two terms."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/01/15/andrew-sullivan-how-obama-s-long-game-will-outsmart-his-critics.html


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alreadyposted; conservatives; idiots; newsweek; republicans; searchisourfriend; snoteatingmorons
I broke out into uncontrollable laughter atleast a dozen times while reading this "editorial."

It's like these guys live in an alternate world.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/01/15/andrew-sullivan-how-obama-s-long-game-will-outsmart-his-critics.html

Worth a read just for all the ridiculous statements and laugh out loud claims it contains

1 posted on 01/16/2012 2:02:38 PM PST by TeaPartyId
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To: TeaPartyId

Not even good satire -— really bad.


2 posted on 01/16/2012 2:03:55 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: TeaPartyId

KEYWORDS: conservatives; idiots; newsweek; republicans;


So you want google to return links to “conservatives” and “republicans” when “idiot” is googled?


3 posted on 01/16/2012 2:06:17 PM PST by OwenKellogg
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To: TeaPartyId
Obama’s budgets both past and projected, he will have added $1.4 trillion in two terms."

So I guess I just imagined that the national debt increased by 4 trillion in the last three years. Hell, it went up another trillion in just the last 5 months. Maybe it's the new math practiced by sausage smokers that I don't get.

4 posted on 01/16/2012 2:07:42 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (The damage is too extensive. Burn it down and start over.)
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To: TeaPartyId

Why is Newsweek so irrelevant?


5 posted on 01/16/2012 2:07:42 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: TeaPartyId

Sullivan’s background? I am guessing he is about 23.


6 posted on 01/16/2012 2:08:15 PM PST by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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To: TeaPartyId
This 750,000 per month job loss number is so bogus. That was the value for December, 2008, the last month of the Bush Presidency.

But the total for 2008 was NOT 750,000 times 12.

Yet the media and the Democrats (same thing) keep making this claim.

The truth is - these were the first months of the newly elected Obama administration.

Most companies knew they were facing enormous uncertainties from the incoming Democrats, so they refused to hire new employees.

Blaming this on Bush is just so wrong, yet the media and the Dems do it all the time and no one corrects them!

7 posted on 01/16/2012 2:10:06 PM PST by eCSMaster (Democrats:always looking for someone else to blame)
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To: TeaPartyId

Can you believe this Twinkie represented himself as a Conservative?


8 posted on 01/16/2012 2:10:38 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl

he’s a radical militat gay activist that has been telling everyone that Sarah Palin youngest child, is not her’s but her daughter’s.
To describe him as nucking futz would be a compliment.


9 posted on 01/16/2012 2:10:38 PM PST by newnhdad
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To: TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl

Isn’t he the gay guy who keeps claiming Sara Palin’s baby was really her daughter’s...who was pregnant with her own child?

I did not know NEWSWEAK even published anymore. I remember reading they were sold for one dollar.

Even my Dentist’s office doesn’t keep this rag on its reading table any longer.


10 posted on 01/16/2012 2:11:15 PM PST by kjo
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To: TeaPartyId

“Under Obama’s budgets..”

The Kenyan lizard has never passed a budget. duh So projections of past and future budgets is a joke. The Kenyan’s occupier scum are desperate to dress up the economic data.

A common meme on the left is that they have superior intelligence than the rest of us. The best retort is to point the disastrous consequences of liberalism. 50,000,000 dead babies is one.


11 posted on 01/16/2012 2:15:01 PM PST by y6162
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To: TeaPartyId
Why Are Obama's Critics So Dumb?

Why are Snoozeweak writers so gay?

I love how good ol' Andy conveniently omits the amount of workers that have been totally eliminated from the statistic when he talks about the 2.4 million jobs that were allegedly created. This dope uses the Regime approved statistics and goes no deeper than that.

12 posted on 01/16/2012 2:18:08 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: TeaPartyId

If I was little Andy, I’d make sure I got paid up front for any work I did for Newsweek.


13 posted on 01/16/2012 2:18:43 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: TeaPartyId

Why are Obama voters so dumb?

“Idiots who voted for Obama”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_JJLLfTR8I


14 posted on 01/16/2012 2:19:01 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: TeaPartyId
This is 100% BS. The question needs to again be, “are you better off today that you were three years ago?”

Gasoline is double, U3 unemployment is up 2%, actual unemployment has risen even more, millions have left the job market, food prices are rising rapidly, record numbers of foodstamps are being handed out, the nation is more divided then in any time during my life, we are almost $6 trillion deeper in debt, a hated socialist Obamacare has been shoved at us, Social Security and Medicare are now going broke, GDP is anemic, liberal agenda has infected the military, we are smothered in scandals and many more are being covered up, Porkulus was a total failure, crony capitalism runs amuck.....

15 posted on 01/16/2012 2:19:45 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: TeaPartyId

Why So Dumb Hit Piece? Critic: Newsweek Are Obama.


16 posted on 01/16/2012 2:20:59 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Yes they are)
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To: TeaPartyId

This is coming from a so-called news media that was so bad that it was sold for $1.


17 posted on 01/16/2012 2:24:17 PM PST by paudio (0bama is like a bad mechanic who couldn't fix your car - he just makes it worse. Get somebody else!)
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To: TeaPartyId

Newsweek-Obama trying desperately to stay relevant by publishing anything by the Lavendar Commandoes.


18 posted on 01/16/2012 2:30:28 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: TeaPartyId

The guy is so dumb he works for a company worth only $1. When Obamalamadingdong took over the unemployment rate was 4.5% and the national debt was at 1.4T. And that debt was incurred by the Democrats in the last two years of the Bush admin.


19 posted on 01/16/2012 2:38:42 PM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: TeaPartyId

Hey guys! Rather than dump on the publication and make fun of the writer, why don’t we productively provide the talking points to counter this stuff? That is what a good conservative web site should be doing. After all, these are the talking points that Obama will be using later this year. We might as well stoke up our side so that none of us is caught flat-footed.

For instance, we should point out that unemployment figures produced by the government are only valid during the early stages of a recession. Once it has gone on this long, the government starts to exclude those who have dropped off the roles and are no longer even looking for work. Fox News is estimating actual current unemployment at ~15%. Others put it as high as 18%.

Not only did employers demur in hiring new employees as soon as Obama was elected, the government heaped uncertainty into the mix by passing Obamacare whose provisions were not even explained by the administration even after passage. How can business expect to extend employment to people in the face of unknown costs?!


20 posted on 01/16/2012 2:43:22 PM PST by the_Watchman
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To: TeaPartyId

Newsweek circulation 2003: 4 million
Newsweek circulation 2010: 1.5 million


21 posted on 01/16/2012 2:46:16 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: the_Watchman
For instance, we should point out that unemployment figures produced by the government are only valid during the early stages of a recession.

See post #12. I addressed this AFTER I got done dumping on the writer and his publication.

22 posted on 01/16/2012 2:47:22 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: TeaPartyId

Another subscription boosting headline from Newsweak. /sarc


23 posted on 01/16/2012 2:47:59 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: reed13k

I was stuck in an doctors office for an hour I read some women’s magazine rather than Newsweek. It contains no “news” and should be sued for false advertisement. It is irrelevant like USA Today or Time. USA has a great subscription rate because they sell in bulk to hotels and airlines.


24 posted on 01/16/2012 2:47:59 PM PST by OldGoatCPO (S,)
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To: TeaPartyId

Does anyone have Newsweek on their deadpool 2012 list? How much longer can this Leftist rag stay in business?


25 posted on 01/16/2012 2:48:12 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: TeaPartyId

The so called ‘hit piece’ will only make stupid Dims dumber. It’s not going to change a single mind to go RAT.


26 posted on 01/16/2012 2:49:02 PM PST by Track9 (There IS revolution brewing..)
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To: TeaPartyId
"and more than the net jobs created under the entire Bush administration..."

Actually Bush created 8 million plus jobs but the net amount created due to the 2007 economic collapse subtracts most of that 8 million. An economic crash due to Democratic Party policies, I might add.

27 posted on 01/16/2012 2:51:50 PM PST by avacado
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To: TeaPartyId
Here's the money line...."Under Bush, new policies on taxes and spending cost the taxpayer a total of $5.07 trillion."

They always give themselves away...so tax cuts cost the taxpayers? Huh?

28 posted on 01/16/2012 3:10:59 PM PST by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

At some point, I expect Time and NewsWeak to combine because neither have much of a status symbol anymore. The thing about their subscription level...is that out of 1.5 million...at least a quarter of that relates to libraries, waiting rooms, airlines, and doctor/dentist offices. They all get heavily discounted rates. So they are barely covering any salary situations and I would imagine that the benefit plan is almost zero.


29 posted on 01/16/2012 3:11:03 PM PST by pepsionice
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30 posted on 01/16/2012 3:13:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: newnhdad; kjo

I think you both are probably right. The Andy threw me off. The fairy you are referring to usually or always has gone by the name Andrew as far as I know.


31 posted on 01/16/2012 3:23:41 PM PST by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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To: TeaPartyId

Leftist propaganda is easy. You just lie.


32 posted on 01/16/2012 3:37:00 PM PST by Argus
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To: TeaPartyId
When Obama took office, the United States was losing around 750,000 jobs a month. The last quarter of 2008 saw an annualized drop in growth approaching 9 percent.

Can someone point out to the drooling Hussein fellators at newsweak that the economy truly began to tank when the business community realized McCain was fighting like an 8 year old girl, and the entire federal government was soon going to be headed by a cabal of Keynesian regulators?

33 posted on 01/16/2012 3:38:44 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Perhaps he is a Ding Dong or a Ho-Ho instead. of course all three are Hostess products.


34 posted on 01/16/2012 3:39:01 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Recovering_Democrat; All

How does newsweek continue to exist?

it should have died a ignoble death like us news and world report or any other liberal rag.

the last one I touched was so thin it was more flyer than magazine.


35 posted on 01/16/2012 3:45:41 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: TeaPartyId
This guy forgets that the Democrats controlled both the House and the Senate from 2006 on...

Maybe he should examine what the root cause of the mortgage crisis actually was. Why did people begin defaulting on their subprime mortgages? Here's a hint:

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The price of gas skyrocketed as soon as we put Dems in control of congress. They had filibustered the Repubs energy bill for four years, and when they took full control, speculators went wild.

Elections can have terrible consequences.

36 posted on 01/16/2012 4:06:13 PM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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