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Naked Images of Pharoahs are Heresy, says Salafist Leader (Prelude to Destroy Egyptian Artifacts?)
Ahram Online ^ | Thursday 12 Jan 2012 | Ahram Online

Posted on 01/12/2012 5:53:55 PM PST by DogByte6RER

Naked images of Pharoahs are heresy, says Salafist leader

Abdel Moneim El-Shahat uses TV appearance to condemn Egypt's Pharaonic heritage, reiterates criticism of Naguib Mahfouz and Alaa Al-Aswany

Photobucket The newly discovered tomb that belonged to Rudj-ka, a priest who headed the mortuary cult of the pharaoh Khafre, at the site of the Giza Pyramids in Cairo (Photo: AP)

Images of naked Pharaohs on Egypt’s temples are tantamount to heresy, prominent Salafist Abdel Moneim El-Shahat said on Wednesday.

El-Shahat, who failed to win an independent seat for the Nour Party in recent parliamentary elections, had previously called Egypt’s Pharaonic heritage “rotten.”

Speaking to Moataz El-Demerdash on El-Hayat 2 Channel on Wednesday evening, El-Shahat also reiterated his controversial comments about Egypt’s renowned novelist Naguib Mahfouz, stressing that his novel Awlad Harretna (Children of the Alley), one of the books that earned him a Nobel prize in 1988, violated the principles of Islam.

El-Shahat had previously said that Mahfouz’s novel had “symbols that promote atheism” and accused him of “inciting promiscuity, prostitution and atheism” in his books.

However, El-Shahat said he did not mean to personally attack the deceased writer and urged readers to read Mahfouz’s novels to know that he is correct. He also sharply criticised Egyptian novelist and activist Alaa El-Aswany, author of The Yacoubian Building and Chicago.

“Those who attack me should read Naguib Mahfouz’s novels,” El-Shahat told El-Demerdash. “And I challenge Alaa El-Aswany to read his novel The Yacoubian Building on live TV.”

Speaking about women, El-Shahat spoke about his dream for all Egyptian women to wear the niqab (full veil) and claimed Salafists are not the enemies of women.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: crimeagainsthumanity; egypt; godsgravesglyphs; heresy; islam; islamofascism; muhammadsminions; muslims; obamaslegacy; pharaohs; religionofpeace; salafist; sharia
At this rate, it will not be long before the ancient Pyramids, the Sphinx and the tombs in the Valley of Kings are relegated to the same fate as the ancient statues of Buddha destroyed by the Taliban in Afghanistan.

All brought to you by the "Religion of Peace"

1 posted on 01/12/2012 5:54:02 PM PST by DogByte6RER
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To: DogByte6RER

Funny, they survived for thousands of years but will not survive the ISLAMOFASCIST.


2 posted on 01/12/2012 5:57:54 PM PST by marty60
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

Well, say goodbye to the artwork of the pharoahs.


3 posted on 01/12/2012 5:58:37 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: DogByte6RER
I am so glad that many museums resisted the call to send ancient Egyptian artifacts back to Egypt.
4 posted on 01/12/2012 6:01:17 PM PST by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: Darksheare
Well, say goodbye to the artwork of the pharoahs.

Obama's legacy.

5 posted on 01/12/2012 6:02:10 PM PST by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: DogByte6RER

We’re going to be sorry we backed these crazies masquerading as religious leaders.


6 posted on 01/12/2012 6:02:44 PM PST by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: MAexile

Yuppers, and he doesn’t have the sense to be ashamed of it either.


7 posted on 01/12/2012 6:04:27 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Darksheare

This is how it begins . . . .


8 posted on 01/12/2012 6:04:27 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: DogByte6RER

Egypt might become the first country attacked by the UN in order to protect a UN World Heritage Site.


9 posted on 01/12/2012 6:05:10 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: colorado tanker

Yup.
That’s how they began with blowing up the giant Buddha in Afghanistan.


10 posted on 01/12/2012 6:07:46 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Vince Ferrer
Egypt might become the first country attacked by the UN in order to protect a UN World Heritage Site.

They won't do a thing. Sites have already been looted. The Cairo Museum was broken into and over seventy items were stolen during the riots, less then half have been recovered and of those many were damaged including items from Tut's tomb.

11 posted on 01/12/2012 6:24:15 PM PST by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: Darksheare

It goes back further than that, with the burning of the great Library of Alexandria.


12 posted on 01/12/2012 6:54:13 PM PST by Fred Hayek (FUBO, the No Talent Pop Star pResident.)
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To: DogByte6RER
At this rate, it will not be long before the ancient Pyramids, the Sphinx and the tombs in the Valley of Kings are relegated to the same fate as the ancient statues of Buddha destroyed by the Taliban in Afghanistan.

I was watching some shows about ancient Egypt with my mother a few days ago and told her exactly that. They will destroy it all if they can get away with it.

13 posted on 01/12/2012 7:35:46 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Fred Hayek

“It goes back further than that, with the burning of the great Library of Alexandria.”

Mostly accepted as being accidently burned by Julius Caesar but I take it you believe it was the Moslem Caliph Omar?

“The Caliph has been quoted as saying of the Library’s holdings, “they will either contradict the Koran, in which case they are heresy, or they will agree with it, so they are superfluous.”

Interesting comment.

http://ehistory.osu.edu/world/articles/ArticleView.cfm?AID=9


14 posted on 01/12/2012 8:12:01 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9

Our “inner barbarian” is far closer than we think. Pre WW II Germany was the world’s most educated and advanced nation. Yet, Hitler took it into barbarism in a few years.

Therefore, beware of those who want to emulate Hitler, wanna be tyrants like Obamoids, Liberals, Prog, ad nauseam.


15 posted on 01/12/2012 8:19:56 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: marty60

I wonder if El-Shehat is mispelled. Could be “El Shit in his hat”. That would be more appropriate.

In our lingo, it would be “shit head”. Even more appropriate for this psycho.

If he ever loses his job in Egypt, he can get another one at either Columbia Un, Georgetown Un. or Union Theological Seminary, or in the White House. They need a new chief of staff.


16 posted on 01/12/2012 8:24:28 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: DogByte6RER

I guess we’ll soon see if there are any sane people in Egypt, or not.


17 posted on 01/13/2012 2:47:06 AM PST by dixjea
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To: DogByte6RER

When some Egyptians actually tried to recover some items from the museum they torched recently, they were shot and & beaten by members of the Army.

It’s just another day in koranistan.


18 posted on 01/13/2012 7:28:37 AM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Who is casting the shadow in that first photo?

19 posted on 01/13/2012 12:39:18 PM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Darksheare; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Darksheare.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


20 posted on 01/14/2012 9:01:39 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy Friday the 13th, everyone!)
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To: Darksheare

Wouldn’t it be ironic if the world’s best catalog of Egyptian antiquity were to become Stargate SG-1?


21 posted on 01/14/2012 11:22:22 AM PST by pabianice (")
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To: fishtank
"Who is casting the shadow in that first photo? "

More than likely it was Dr. Zahi Hawass.

22 posted on 01/14/2012 11:27:22 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: GladesGuru

It never turned to barbarism for most.

In 1944 you could still relax in your bauhaus, sip a cognac from a large snifter while you smoked a fine cuban cigar while listening to Wagner as you read Goethe’s Faust, while not quite hearing the murmuring in the background about some “Final Solution”.

Most knew there was a brutal war on. They even knew the enemy was getting closer. But most did not know what 1 more year would reveal.


23 posted on 01/14/2012 11:28:38 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: GladesGuru

It never turned to barbarism for most.

In 1944 you could still relax in your bauhaus, sip a cognac from a large snifter while you smoked a fine cuban cigar while listening to Wagner as you read Goethe’s Faust, while not quite hearing the murmuring in the background about some “Final Solution”.

Most knew there was a brutal war on. They even knew the enemy was getting closer. But most did not know what 1 more year would reveal.


24 posted on 01/14/2012 11:28:38 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: DogByte6RER
El-Shahat, who failed to win an independent seat for the Nour Party in recent parliamentary elections, had previously called Egypt’s Pharaonic heritage “rotten.”

Well, the pharaohs accomplished a lot more that was a lot longer lasting than anything done by proponents of Islam.
25 posted on 01/14/2012 11:34:09 AM PST by aruanan
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To: pabianice

Sadly, thats what it looks like will happen.


26 posted on 01/14/2012 12:23:02 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: DogByte6RER

The Sphinx, as ancient as it is, was in relatively good condition until it was vandalized by the Muslims.


27 posted on 01/14/2012 1:24:26 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: DogByte6RER

These bastards should be exterminated - every last mother of them - in Egypt and everywhere else.

They are maniacs.


28 posted on 01/14/2012 3:31:24 PM PST by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: BenLurkin
The Sphinx, as ancient as it is, was in relatively good condition until it was vandalized by the Muslims.

IIRC, The Turks shot the nose off.
29 posted on 01/15/2012 9:27:00 AM PST by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: ZULU
These bastards should be exterminated - every last mother of them - in Egypt and everywhere else.

If Islam does not have their own version of a Reformation, I do foresee that there will be a backlash such as this either by the Western World and/or the Hindus. There has to be realization that such practices they espouse will not work in a modern world and they need to change.
30 posted on 01/15/2012 10:06:53 AM PST by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: colorado tanker
There was an interesting thread, yesterday, about the gender of the Sphinx in Giza, along with some great chronological illustrations of the carving before and after defacement.
31 posted on 01/15/2012 10:19:08 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: July4

“We’re going to be sorry we backed these crazies masquerading as religious leaders.”

Hey, don’t say “we”.


32 posted on 01/15/2012 1:04:55 PM PST by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: ZULU

Sooner rather than later.


33 posted on 01/15/2012 1:59:25 PM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: mass55th
More than likely it was Dr. Zahi Hawass.

Likely trying to get in front of the camera.

34 posted on 01/15/2012 2:08:13 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum
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To: Fred Hayek; DogByte6RER; Nowhere Man
1 posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 7:54:02 PM by DogByte6RER: “At this rate, it will not be long before the ancient Pyramids, the Sphinx and the tombs in the Valley of Kings are relegated to the same fate as the ancient statues of Buddha destroyed by the Taliban in Afghanistan.
All brought to you by the ‘Religion of Peace’”

12 posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 8:54:13 PM by Fred Hayek: “It goes back further than that, with the burning of the great Library of Alexandria.”

You're absolutely right.

We can probably work with liberal Muslims and those who don't take their religion seriously. They're inconsistent, but not everyone who claims to follow Islam wants to kill infidels and destroy pre-Islamic art and education.

The problem is that the people who are serious about Islam want to do exactly that, and have been doing it for more than a millennium — the burning of the library at Alexandria is an early example right from the earliest days of Islam and it shows what Islamofascism is like when it gains power.

30 posted on Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:06:53 PM by Nowhere Man: “If Islam does not have their own version of a Reformation, I do foresee that there will be a backlash such as this either by the Western World and/or the Hindus. There has to be realization that such practices they espouse will not work in a modern world and they need to change.”

I see no way that will happen.

The Reformation was a claim to “reform” Christianity by returning to the practices of Christ and the early church as recorded in Scripture. I'm well aware that Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox will disagree on whether Protestants succeeded in doing so, but all three main streams of Christianity concur in their desire to be faithful to the original vision of Christ and the early church.

It is impossible to read the Koran and the history of early Islam and not come to the conclusion the Islamofascists have correctly understood at least the main points of Mohammed's teaching and that of early Islamic leaders. We can argue about details, but holy war with the sword against the infidels is not a minor part of Islam.

Not every Muslim is an Islamofascist. The problem is that those who are have correctly read their Koran and their history, and seek to repeat it.

35 posted on 02/13/2012 9:05:20 AM PST by darrellmaurina
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