Skip to comments."The illegals I met last night."
Posted on 01/01/2012 8:10:22 AM PST by Gen.Blather
I met some illegal Mexicans last night at a party. Several years ago I stayed with a couple of wonderful Mexican families in the Baja below California. These were well-off people. The homes, on average were beautifully tiled and some of them had mahogany inlaid walls, bookshelves and cabinetry that would cost a hundred-thousand dollars here. So, Im guessing if they arent rich theyre very comfortable. The elderly not as well-off grandfather, while living in Mexico was receiving Social Security from the United States and owned a rent-free apartment in California which he used as his address to receive several forms of assistance checks from Californian agencies. He visited the apartment once a week to re-arrange things and make it looked lived in. He had a car, a Toyota Corolla that looked quite nice and had working air-conditioning. I gathered it was supplied as some form of assistance and he generally left it in California at the apartment. The apartment was about 1100 square feet and very livable. The grandfather told me most of entire complex, easily a 1000 units, were like him, on Californian assistance, but actually living in Mexico.
At the party were a couple of teenage boys from this family. Very nice kids. Id be proud to have them as my own; diligent, hard working, trouble-free and much more adult than youd expect from that age. They told me that theyd decided to go to high school in California instead of Mexico. They said that the (California) government gave them an apartment and they travel back to Mexico on the weekends. (I dont know if theyre staying alone or if a family member is staying with them, but if I had to guess, they came alone.)
When I posted information on this family last time, Freepers angrily asked why I hadnt reported them. Firstly, I was a well-treated guest. Secondly, this must be obvious to the casual observer. Even if I knew who to report it to in California, which I dont, it is obvious that this is how its done. These people are only taking advantage of benefits put there for them. Not to avail themselves of these benefits would be like deciding not to take candy freely offered to you.
It was a legit question. It is Freakafornia after all.
You have to be able to definitively determine a persons identity and status. Determining who is illegal will require determining everybodys status.
But many conservatives are opposed to such a system
See post #36 for a good explanation of why conservatives oppose a national ID card - it won't do anything to stop illegal immigration which the government itself chooses to overlook, but it will put new and annoying burdens on US citizens. I've already got two forms of ID provided by the government - a US Passport and a state drivers license. Oh, and I have also proved my citizenship in order to register to vote and to be employed. What more should we be asked to do? To get my passport I had to provide the government with all kinds of proof of citizenship. Isn't that enough?
The government already can tell very quickly if anyone is a legal or illegal immigrant. All legal immigrants have visas or entry records related to their passports. No doubt they are in a database run by the federal government. Most, perhaps all recent legal immigrants have been fingerprinted at entry.
The idea that we need a new ID card is nonsense, all we need is for the government to actually enforce the law.
Last I heard, TEN PERCENT of Mexico’s population was living in the United States.
Benefits them to have another country pay for their citizens and repatriate BILLIONS of dollars back to their third world cesspool economy.
Even Commie Keynesian Kenyans?
I met Mr. Jim Beam last night.....again.
There is no one to to report them to.
They have (III)...Illegal Immigrant Immunity.
I was born, raised, and live here. Can I claim asylum?
Here is how it works for the Mexicans. Aunt Maria gets very sick and needs dialysis. She flies into the U.S., for a ‘vacation’ and her nephew picks her up at the airport and drives immediately to the major medical center where auntie goes on dialysis. Once on, she has to stay here and get assistance.
Another common scenario Uncle Jose gets diagnosed with a brain tumor. (It turns out it’s really not a brain tumor, it’s a tapeworm egg that got into the bloodstream and traveled to his brain.) He takes his vay-cay in the U.S. and has his brain surgery here. Guess who pays for all this.
my wifes sister-in-law.
Wouldn’t that be YOUR sister?
Go down to Olvera Street, get a SS Card and sign up for gubmint Bene’s.....
Totally plausible and a fact of life.
Heh-—try it. Who knows?
i hope you sleep well knowing by turning a blind eye you are doing your part to destroy your own economy...
Thank you. Seroquel.
There are an estimated 660,000 Mexican/US border-crossings per day. The problem is so blatantly obvious that the grandfather pointed it out (the empty apartment complex) from the highway. You cant tell me that hundreds, if not thousands of Californian officials arent fully aware.
To report a crime, Id need the correct spellings of names, addresses and other information I dont have and couldnt easily get. (Nor would I, as these kids are the least of Californias Mexican problem.) You cant simply call (who?) and say, Did you know illegal aliens are going to school in California and using Californian assistance without being entitled to it? Maybe they are entitled to it? What do I know? Maybe what the kids are doing in California is completely legal. I dont know where the school is; but what if its in a sanctuary city?
The post, which I agonized over before making, was to give a first person observation that many would never otherwise see. We need to be aware for when the tide does change.
>>Firstly, I was a well-treated guest.<<
No, THEY are the well-treated guests...YOU and ME are the ones footing the bill for them!
You came to the right place. I work for the Border Patrol. Give their names and give me their adresses and I'll take care of the problem.
Which is why they MUST destroy Sheriff Joe Arpaio, whose office detains a staggering 25% of all criminal illegal aliens in the U.S. Arizona is THE gateway for illegal entries, and so they can't have that flow interrupted. We must stand with Joe: http://www.StandWithJoe.com
>>No, THEY are the well-treated guests...YOU and ME are the ones footing the bill for them!<<
Ya got that right!
You came to the right place. I work for the Border Patrol. Give their names and give me their adresses and I’ll take care of the problem.
First names, yes. Address, not a clue. It was a party, not an interview. The high school kids made a polite appearance and then rushed off to shoot fireworks. But if you watch any of the government subsidized apartment complexes close to the Mexican border, youll have enough work to keep you and the entire ICE department busy for the rest of this decade. Glad to be of service.
Names and addresses please.
Names and addresses of the illegal aliens please..thanks in advance.
You frequently get names and addresses from minors you meet at parties? Foreign names with accented pronunciations, too?
Unfortunately, the "candy" must be taken from others before it can be given to these "well-of" invaders. You liberals are really generous with other people's money.
Then give me their first names and housing subdivision, name of city or town.
Where does this "Free Candy" ultimately come from? Get your damned liberal mitts out of my f'n pocket!
***The sentiment is intended for the Original Poster***
This is why I love FR and keep coming back.
Someone else noted the implausibility of the government giving an apartment to teenagers. I agree. But the grandfather told me he was led from agency to agency by a fat black woman who told him, Honey, I am going to get you everything to which you is entitled. She told him what to say on every line of the form. Obviously, some of the information was false.
This sounds like the ACORN worker talking to James Keefe.
Incidentally, theres a popular cable channel in Mexico which simply shows live video feeds of all the entry points and estimates the wait at each one.
Does our HS dept. know about this???
Thank you for your informative (and chilling) post.
“We, as a sovereign, free nation are done.”
Well, we can at least entertain ourselves around the makeshift fires with folksongs and reminiscences about our Great Past over shared cans of Pork ‘n Beans.
My family was forced to go to the “well” one time.
While I was a jr. enlisted man, my wife and newborn son trying to make it while living off base.
Not once since then, even when times were tight, we never thought to go to the AFAS, or welfare. We worked through it.
Sorry, justification fail on this one Gen.
Actually, since your tax dollars paid for that apartment, and most likely the meal and entertainment you received, you were the host of that little party. They are the well-treated guests, on your (and all other tax-paying citizens') dimes.
I’d rather be a functioning host any day than a needy parasite. I’m all for prying the Leech and her many daughters off the government teet, but I know that many troubles are added to those who refuse to give up suck (ha!).
Actually, since your tax dollars paid for that apartment
I live in Florida. Partly, the reason I posted this is I was so stunned by what I learned in California and Mexico. I thought I was well informed, but it turns out that I knew nothing about the situation on the ground. I suspect that what I reported is merely the tip of the iceberg. I never saw Texas or other border state crossings; each of which, Im sure, has its own situation. Ive read that the concrete sidewalks between some Texas border crossings and the nearest hospital are worn into troughs.
I find it impossible to believe that this situation, as obvious as it is, isnt well known to every conceivable authority. I must assume that it is known and ignored. Certainly, it must be obvious to social workers who handle the paperwork and presumably visit the clients. On the Mexican side, I noticed at several social events that the situation and how to work it in California appeared to be common topics.
Meanwhile, they're talking about raising my military retiree TRICARE premiums and copays.
Gen.Blather seems to luv him some illegals. Could he be a "Dane" retread?
Before I joined the Border Patrol my views on immigration were somewhat libertarian. At first I even wondered if I could do the job. It took less than a week for me to get over any doubts I had about doing my job. LOL!
“i hope you sleep well knowing by turning a blind eye you are doing your part to destroy your own economy...”
Thank you! Amen!
You guys. Reporting them won’t do a damn thing anyway.
I live here. I believe this story.
Imagine you were a successful middle class Mexican. And you see the poor coming back from el Norte with all these freebies. Why not go get you some?
We make more than that but have a last name that could be Hispanic and get offered all that free lunch stuff too. And turn it down.
We have gotten the most condescending letters giving away services from banks and whatnot.
Thank you for the information. It seems like half of the people on this thread are more interested in shooting the messenger than acknowledged the problem.
You must have missed the parts where Blather said...
These were well-off people. The homes, on average were beautifully tiled and some of them had mahogany inlaid walls, bookshelves and cabinetry that would cost a hundred-thousand dollars here. So, Im guessing if they arent rich theyre very comfortable.
And it get's better...
These people are only taking advantage of benefits put there for them. Not to avail themselves of these benefits would be like deciding not to take candy freely offered to you.
These people are better off than many U.S. Citizens yet they're illegally taking resources produced via our tax dollars. Meanwhile, your beloved "messenger" seems quite happy with the situation.
Shouldn't we be pissed off when our government takes from our pockets and gives to wealthy invaders?
HOW ARE YA DOING, DANE?
Don't interrupt, it makes a marvelous story.
It seemed as though you were blaming the situation on Gen.Blather instead of the corrupt state and federal governments.
When they’ve soaked the businesses and legitimate taxpayers and the Streisands of the state then they’ll go to D.C. looking for a handout and the rest of us will be on the hook for this insanity. Not that we’re not already.
Our politicians are ...no make that HAVE destroyed this country. I think we’re past the point of no return.
Blather-—Report to Border Patrol and/or ICE, as well as the state (waste, fraud and abuse of taxpayer money is illegal).
These “nice” people broke US immigration law, law that my son, a Border Patrol Agent, enforces.
These “nice” people break the law by trucking on their backs loads of drugs into the US, that is how they pay the coyote and also pay for protection when they make the crossing. Carrying drugs support the most vile people (drug cartels).
These “nice” people routinely assault Border Patrol Agents when they are intercepted (my son was assaulted by these simple “nice” people during one take-down and required treatment). Finally, my son had to shoot one of those “nice” people when they decided to try and kill him deep in the desert when he intercepted them.
Of course, these “nice” people engage in ID theft, and once you are a victim of ID theft your life is forever changed. . .and as a former victim of ID theft, shooting them on-sight is too good for them.
The only one’s defending the illegals are democrat traitors that see democrat voters because there is no way to stop them from voting if they produce a rental agreement or utility bill as some sort of voter ID.
>> The issue will never be solved until a national ID system is installed.
Our liberties don’t need to suffer with such Orwellian, Statist systems that will only imprison honest citizens.
Allowing local law enforcement to arrest illegals will go a long way in stopping the illegal immigration problem.
These benefits aren’t ‘’put there’’ for Mexican illegals, who are criminals by the way, they’re for American citizens.
Couldn’t that the wife of his wife’s brother?
I despise Mexico and it’s people. Mexico is the richest country in Latin America, per capita it has more billionaires living in it than any Western nation on Earth. Hard-working, law-abiding my ass. They’re nothing but racist thieves , prostitutes of one stripe or another and a criminally-corrupted culture who have a militant and pugnacious belief that they have a God-given right to barge into our country because some racist and revisionist history gives them that right. As I have said here before if Mexicans put just half the energy into to fixing the lawless craphole they have made of the land God gave them that they do into destroying ours then maybe someday Mexico will be a nation based on the rule of law and Mexicans won’t have to run away from it. Until that day , screw Mexico and Mexicans, I’m a taxpayer and this is costing me everyday. I’m sick of it.
My wife, a legal immigrant from the Third World who was legally in this country a decade on a visa before I met her, had a cousin come over here to prepare for and take a physical therapist exam that would allow her a work visa. We signed our fortunes away for the “tourist” visit, put her up, and helped in any way we could.
She had come totally unprepared, failed the test three times, then went to stay with my wife’s sister in NYC, where the cousin’s boyfriend just happened to live, and got a job - a violation of her visa - while she “studied” further for her test.
I found out about the illegal job just about the time we received renewal notices to continue to vouch for her visa, which also specified she was staying with us. I refused, and wrote her a letter telling her pointedly why. In the letter I told her I wanted assurances that she was no longer putting me, and my wife’s good standing with the Feds, in jeopardy by continuing to work, and that I did not get satisfactory evidence of this I would turn her in to ICE.
Wife almost left me, and her family all but disowned me.
However, my wife was studying for her citizenship at that time, and she was also growing very tired of sending all her earnings to support the laziness and stupidity of her ungrateful family of rapid breeders back home. She also works in an ER and sees the entitlement and ungratefulness of today’s crop of citizens, but even more so illegals, who abuse the system. She started to get a glimpse of the toll that corrupt immigration and entitlement was taking on what was once a country she admired.
She is now a citizen, and a staunch conservative, and despises the sort of thinking put forth in this article. She has stopped sending money to her family for any purpose other than direct medical care for her aging mother. She no longer considers her old country to be “home.” Her home is here now, and she is making efforts in any way she can to halt and reverse the decline in her new homeland, its morality, its sovereignty, its security, its fortunes, and its future.
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