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A-29 Super Tucano Wins Air Force Bid for Light Air Support Mission
Sierra Nevada Corporation ^
| Dec 30, 2011
Posted on 12/30/2011 7:38:59 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Would have been nice to have these suckers in WWII.
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posted on
12/30/2011 7:43:28 PM PST
by
Talisker
(History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
To: sukhoi-30mki
Am I calculating correctly, that these will be $17M a piece? For a prop engine plane?
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posted on
12/30/2011 7:46:51 PM PST
by
ClearCase_guy
(Nothing will change until after the war. It's coming.)
To: ClearCase_guy
That amount most likely includes the setting up of a manufacturing line in Florida and logistics/training systems.
To: ClearCase_guy
Tail looks like a P-51. Why not use Mustangs—they would be cheaper.
To: ClearCase_guy
Am I calculating correctly, that these will be $17M a piece? For a prop engine plane? It's also for spares, manuals, test equipment, training, and specialized test jigs.
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posted on
12/30/2011 7:50:18 PM PST
by
Yo-Yo
(Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
To: sukhoi-30mki
I understand that startup costs are always high and that with high volume, the per unit cost can come down considerably. Still, the A-10 is (I believe) cheaper than this little thing.
Also, since when have our military planes received spanish/brazilian names?
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posted on
12/30/2011 7:51:47 PM PST
by
ClearCase_guy
(Nothing will change until after the war. It's coming.)
To: sukhoi-30mki
This is a joke..............ri-i-i-i-i-ight?
All I need to know now is that the 1st and 7th Cavalry are starting to buy up horses and give riding lessons!
Howcum I can’t remember going through a time warp?!
Pity the poor bastards assigned to FLY those things when they encounter a real adversary in a JET FIGHTER!
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posted on
12/30/2011 7:52:14 PM PST
by
Tucker39
To: sukhoi-30mki
Considering Brazil’s President and ours are simpatico Commies, who knews if this was ordered from on high.
After all, we are already helping Brazil drill for oil to the tune of $ 2 billion.
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posted on
12/30/2011 7:55:54 PM PST
by
exit82
(Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
To: sukhoi-30mki
I want one.
If I get a job there, can I get an employee discount?
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posted on
12/30/2011 7:56:40 PM PST
by
sjmjax
(Politicans are like bananas - they start out green, turn yellow, then rot.)
To: sukhoi-30mki
Thanks for the posting
This is Brazilian design wonder how much of the plane will be built here. (probably their PR doesn’t cover that aspect) This type of craft and its missions suggests it could be deployed “up front” and missions directed by the Army who’s alas at fixed wing war with the Air Force.
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posted on
12/30/2011 8:00:54 PM PST
by
mosesdapoet
(Moses ..A nick name I received as a kid for warning another -It's a sin to tell a lie")
To: ClearCase_guy
For a custom built military aircraft with a total production run of 20 aircraft. I imagine if the order had been for 200 aircraft the price would be half that per copy.
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posted on
12/30/2011 8:01:11 PM PST
by
Blood of Tyrants
(Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
To: ClearCase_guy
Looks like the base contract is for the $355mil firm fixed price, but initial delivery task order for 20 aircraft on the IDIQ KT.
The total volume of the KT might be $355mil, but first task order for 20 aircraft, without stipulating the exact amount for the first set of birds. (It could be as you read it, but it isn’t clear to me.)
Wikipedia reports avg aircraft price ranging from $9-$14mil over the past decade for Latin American countries. Operational costs of about $500/hr.
Looks like you are right.
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posted on
12/30/2011 8:01:24 PM PST
by
Cvengr
(Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
To: ClearCase_guy
Also, since when have our military planes received spanish/brazilian names? Since they starting being built by a Brazilian company I am guessing.
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posted on
12/30/2011 8:01:29 PM PST
by
Straight Vermonter
(Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
To: Yo-Yo
Would that $17M per aircraft include the “LANTRIN” like pod on the underside of the aircraft?
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posted on
12/30/2011 8:01:29 PM PST
by
NY Attitude
(Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
To: ClearCase_guy; Tucker39; exit82
The LAS contract is supposed to be aimed at US allies (Afghanistan in this case) with the USAF also operating a few in the training role. Even if it is expanded, it will operate in the low-threat counter insurgency role below the A-10 and has better endurance and lower operating costs than the latter.
http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/light-air-support-las-contest-between-at-6-texan-ii-super-tucano-continues/
About why the Super Tucano, may be it has to do with the fact that it is probably the only realistic option which is in service with multiple airforces and has seen combat.
To: Talisker
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posted on
12/30/2011 8:02:22 PM PST
by
Tribune7
(Vote Perry or Gingrich, maybe. OK Santorum too)
To: Tucker39
Not made to go up against a jet fighter.
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posted on
12/30/2011 8:02:51 PM PST
by
Blood of Tyrants
(Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
To: NY Attitude
Looks like Guatemala was getting loans at about $28mil/copy.
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posted on
12/30/2011 8:03:05 PM PST
by
Cvengr
(Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
To: sukhoi-30mki
I just ran a quick comparison of the British Supermarine Spitfire and this A-29. The two planes are remarkably similar. Of course, one was built during Orville Wright's lifetime, and one is being built in the 21st century.
These Progressives really love moving backward, don't they?
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posted on
12/30/2011 8:03:36 PM PST
by
ClearCase_guy
(Nothing will change until after the war. It's coming.)
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