Posted on 12/21/2011 11:22:52 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
I could be wrong here, but your post seems to suggest that you are not a Romney supporter, you’re not willing to believe the lies coming from these MSM rags, you’re not willing to simply jump to any conclusion that might be twisted to reflect negatively on Gingrich, you’re not an anti-Newt ‘spam monkey’ spreading lies as fast as you can type, you’re not still wetting your bed over the loss of Cain, you’re not hanging onto hope for a candidate that’s down to single digits just 2 weeks before the race really begins in ernest, you’re not some shallow thinker that can’t see the forest for the trees.
Nope, it seems to me that you’re not any of those things. Heck, I could be guessing wrong, but it seems as if you are looking at things objectively and putting your country first. You might even want to do everything you can to help stop Obama’s War on America.
But heck, what do I know... those are just things I kinda see.
Merry Christmas!
GO NEWT GO........
Neil Boortz, hardly a left-winger, said much the same thing.
Politics is like a chessgame and sometimes you need to sacrifice pieces to get the opponent. A lot of conservatives don’t get it.
The PRIME objective is to bump Obama out of office and provide a solid conservative GOP majority in both houses.
Once yoou accomplish that, we can make the tax cuts PERMANENT and revise the Social Security System so its on a viable footing and made optional instead of mandatory for Americans. Do that and it will probably wither on the vine.
I agree with you about the headline, except I can’t find another explanation for his statement about what the GOP should do, when paired with his statements about how hard it is to stand up to an incumbent president.
I wouldn’t say he agrees with Obama, I would say I’m inclined to believe that he made an off-the-cuff statement that he thought the best political move would be for the house GOP to pass the senate bill and live to fight another day.
I also think once he said it, he realized how bad it sounded, so he used Rush to try to halt the story in it’s tracks.
I’m also willing to believe the quotes are wrong, but only if I see the actual transcript or a video (or hear audio), because it is rare to find articles that offer made-up quotations. There is a line the media rarely crosses.
He is firmly on both sides of this issue
Think of who you're talking about here. Newt ****ing Gingrich. He probably went on talking for 45 minutes on various tangents about the historical problems of the legislature trying to set the national direction as compared to the immediate access to the American people the President gets.
WSJ and Politico then sort through the monologue and cherry-pick the quotes that tell the story they want.
If the WSJ lied in the article, then it is no longer an article about Gingrich—it is an article first and foremost about the fact that WSJ cannot be trusted.
I'm still waiting to see a better explanation for what Gingrich meant by the first full quote:
“Incumbent presidents have enormous advantages. And I think what Republicans ought to do is what’s right for America. They ought to do it calmly and pleasantly and happily,”I'll believe the quote is false if someone posts a transcript of the interview or a video. But until then, I say it sounds exactly like something Gingrich would say, because it's what smart political people would say, before they thought about how it would look ideologically.
I've seen no defense of Newt yet that explains that quote, just a lot of people attacking the sources and saying "Gingrich says he supports the House" -- which is what the quotes in this article say as well, except for the part where he seems to say they should surrender and live to fight another day.
It's what Gingrich did in the 1990s, when he was still truly conservative. Why wouldn't that be his first inclination now?
You can fully support someone, and still tell them they need to give up. "You fought the good fight, but you can't win".
This is where I think the "Anybody but Obama" posters have it wrong. It would be easily correctable if it was only "Obama's war on America". Obama is just a figurehead, doing the bidding of others. The Democrat controlled Senate are officers in the war on America. Many large unions and corporations are the bankers of the War on America. The Republican leadership are the Quislings of the war on America.
Replacing Obama with an establishment insider will do little to change the course of the War on America. Much more important is to change the Democrat and/or progressive control of the Senate and to gain conservative control of the house and remove it's present leadership.
You're being too kind and generous.
I agree. As I watch the MSM report the payroll tax story, the meme is "Republicans are Preventing Americans From Getting a Tax Cut". And Republicans are supposed to be the party that favors lowering taxes! This morning on the local news, it was revealed that the tax cut is about $80 for someone making $50,000 per year. IMO, we are losing a huge PR battle in an election campaign over chump change.
The quote doesn't match the headline.
He called the Senate bill “an absurd dereliction of duty”
He noted the difficulty of Congress's message trumping the bully pulpit(President has the advantage and often wins).
He said the House should do what is “right” for America.
I would not conclude that means they should throw in the towel, and pass that “absurd dereliction of duty”, but apparently what passes for News Media can't wait to spin it that way.
Newt is right in backing Boehner in this move.
They’ve taken the club out of Obama’s hand and are beating him over the head with it.
There is no way to take this Payroll Tax Cut issue and effectively beat it in the Public Forum.
Yes, I understand the economics!
The explanation doesn’t fit on a bumper sticker and WILL NOT SELL!!!
You can’t be for extending the Bush tax cuts and against Payroll Tax Cuts and survive in this political arena.
The House did the best thing possible and attached Keystone and other riders, before dropping the hot potato back in liberal laps.
VERY SMART MOVE!!
Unless you have some mechanism for your favorite conservative to take over as dictator??
He called the senate's 2 month extension an “absurd dereliction of duty”.
He said the House Pubbies should do what is “right” for America.
I don't think that includes passing an “absurd dereliction of duty”.
I didn't see any where in 2 separate sources that I read any quote that said he thought the House should pass the 2 month extension.
Is there a quote somewhere that supports the headline? It looks more like typical misleading conclusions to me.
The real issue with this story isn’t if newt is in agreement with obummer, It’s that every one had to scramble to try to prove it wrong.
Because it isn’t beyond imagination that it could be true.
Nice to see the Newt hatchet jobs haven’t slowed on account of Ron Paul’s rise in the polls (the media knows they don’t need to waste print cutting down a man who can’t win, so they keep hitting Newt).
Right, just keep paving the road for Romney. That’s the ticket!
How does your own foot taste?
We change horses here more often than a Pony Express Rider in Indian country.
Soon we will be informed what flavor of Cr@p sandwich we will have offered up. They will not allow another Reagan, which is why I had high hopes for Palin, and I guess she proved my point, at least to myself.
I agree
I didn’t read it that way either
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