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To: neverdem

The rewriting of the Second Amendment begins. Now the “right of the People” has magically become “the right of citizens”... Look for further changes in the near future.


17 posted on 12/19/2011 1:54:24 PM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: Teacher317

Nope.

A non-citizen legal resident still has a right to keep and bear arms.

Hopefully this is precursor to admitting that illegals are not “subject to jurisdiction thereof” in the in the 14th Amendment, which will strip their children of their stolen citizenship.


29 posted on 12/19/2011 2:23:05 PM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Teacher317
The rewriting of the Second Amendment begins. Now the “right of the People” has magically become “the right of citizens”... Look for further changes in the near future.

I submit that in the eyes of the Founding Fathers the words citizen and people are one in the same. It was never intended to be all encompassing. Did the original include specifically women? They couldn't vote. Could they arm themselves absent a male in the household? Not sure if there are any specific writings on this but the intent in another direction is plainly clear: It did not apply to slaves. Even after the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments passed to: #1 Ban slavery, #2 Make former slaves citizens and #3 Give the new citizens the right to vote -- even after all that, the right to vote still did not extend to blacks in individual states until incorporation in the 1960's. All that did was to extend certain Amendments in the BOR (Bill Of Rights) down to the local levels and STILL it didn't include the 2nd Amendment! That had to wait until 2010 with Heller and the Chicago case! I think the Founders meant for Amendments 4,5,6 & 8 all to apply to everybody as a way to keep the gov't in check when criminal rules are being applied but that #'s 1,2,3,7,9 & 10 (obviously on the last) do not attach to non-citizens.

78 posted on 12/19/2011 8:53:35 PM PST by ExSoldier ("Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.")
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To: Teacher317
Now the “right of the People” has magically become “the right of citizens”...

"The People" are "We the People of the United States ..."

Illegal aliens are NOT part of "We the People of the United States ...". They are "people of some other country" who have illegally invaded our country. Illegal is criminal.

Illegal aliens by definition have no right to be in the USA, period.

Illegal aliens have the right to humane treatment while in custody (as any other criminal would have), and until they are deported. Criminals have no right to possess firearms during the commission of their crimes. They do have the right to surrender and be returned to their own country.

Once in their own country, they are welcome to enjoy whatever God-given rights their own government wishes to allow them.

84 posted on 12/20/2011 12:18:03 AM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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