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Angelina Jolie inflames new ethnic emotions in Bosnia with her debut as film director
The Telegraph ^ | 12/17/2011 | Philip Sherwell

Posted on 12/17/2011 8:19:42 PM PST by PieterCasparzen

Angelina Jolie has aroused praise and criticism in Bosnia with her first film as a director, a story of love and war set during the bloody Balkans conflict. ... But in the Balkans, another world from the star-studded American premieres and glitzy after-parties, the film is inflaming old and deeply-held emotions. ... Former Bosnian Muslim war prisoners and relatives of massacre victims, some of them initially critical, lauded In the Land of Blood and Honey after being invited to a private screening to allay earlier fears about the subject matter.

But the leader of a Bosnian Serb prisoners group has slammed the film for its allegedly one-sided depiction of the atrocities and called for it to be banned from the country's Serbian areas. ... Murat Tahirovic, who heads an association of ex-prisoners of war, added: "This film is deeply moving for the victims who experienced all of these things.

"It is completely objective and it really tells the facts of what happened during the war. She succeeded in telling the story of the whole war in her film and to show... situations that detainees faced - mass executions, rapes, [being used as] human shields and all the other horrors."

But Branislav Djukic, who heads the Bosnian Serb Association of Camp Prisoners, had a very different reaction after seeing a trailer. He said that the film "is showing lies" as it depicts only Serbs as rapists during the war and called for it to be barred from cinemas in the autonomous Serbian half of Bosnia. "We'll do our best to ban the film," he said. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: balkans; bosnia; hollywood; jolie; serbs
Naive ignorance of Hollywood.

When artistic skills are not enough to make me hundreds of millions, I goose things a bit by getting involved on the wrong side of a conflict that's popular in the America-hating, muslim-loving Hollywood, and making a film sure to create controversy.

In a word, jacka$$. She got paid, so, professional jacka$$.

1 posted on 12/17/2011 8:19:53 PM PST by PieterCasparzen
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To: PieterCasparzen

You’d hope that over in Bosnia they’d have better sense and not take our Hollywood idiots seriously.


2 posted on 12/17/2011 8:27:19 PM PST by PaleoBob
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To: PaleoBob

We’ve always backed the wrong side in that conflict.. Hollywood always trying to placate Muslims. I hope it flops.


3 posted on 12/17/2011 8:35:52 PM PST by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - SocratesH)
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To: PieterCasparzen

This idiot has no idea (if she even cares) the bile shes stirred up..
Her father must be very disappointed..

It should be a crime the teachers (Unions) do not teach american history to students..
Not teaching civics and world history should be treasonous.. at least seditious..

They have completely dumbed down american school children..


4 posted on 12/17/2011 8:42:38 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: PieterCasparzen

The Serbs were the good guys.

I say that in a relativistic way....

We backed the bad guys!


5 posted on 12/17/2011 8:43:29 PM PST by Bobalu (even Jesus knew the poor would always be with us)
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To: Hildy

I had some Serbs here in America fill me in on the situation back in the mid 90’s. Excellent people.


6 posted on 12/17/2011 8:43:45 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: hosepipe

I believe she spent much of her early life in France?


7 posted on 12/17/2011 8:44:51 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: Bobalu

tell that to the Croats


8 posted on 12/17/2011 8:45:38 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: PieterCasparzen

My husband is Serbian... They are a proud and loyal people.


9 posted on 12/17/2011 8:47:01 PM PST by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - SocratesH)
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To: Bobalu

[ We backed the bad guys! ]

There were no good guys.. turning out to be the same in Iraq and Afghanistan..


10 posted on 12/17/2011 8:49:52 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Bokababe

Ping!


11 posted on 12/17/2011 8:52:11 PM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: sickoflibs; joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ...
Thanks, SOL!
12 posted on 12/17/2011 9:03:49 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: PieterCasparzen

This movie is going to tank.

Just the trailer is difficult to watch because the subject matter — war, death, despair — is so painful.

People go to the movies to be entertained.


13 posted on 12/17/2011 9:13:20 PM PST by Blue Ink
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To: PieterCasparzen
"It is completely objective and it really tells the facts of what happened during the war. She succeeded in telling the story of the whole war in her film and to show... situations that detainees faced - mass executions, rapes, [being used as] human shields and all the other horrors."

Yeah, it is so "objective" that the Bosnian Muslim government wouldn't even let her film there until she rewrote the script repeatedly until the it fit the narrative that the so-called "Bosnian (Muslim) Survivor" groups approved.

She is stirring up a hornets nest that had just begun to settle down. What a foolish woman she is.

14 posted on 12/17/2011 9:15:29 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: PieterCasparzen

There are no good guys in a civil war. Each side is there to abuse and kill the other side. They are at war because they hate each other and don’t want to live with each other anymore.

So, picking out one side as total victims of the other evil side, is automatically a lie. To please the Muslims with this movie like she did, she would be lying by the ommission of their role in the civil war. In other words, she told a politically correct story. We all know what it will convey and what it will hide before we watch it.


15 posted on 12/17/2011 9:29:26 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: PieterCasparzen

Another “big lie” smear job of the Serbs. ANYTHING to defend the Muslim hordes. Bosnia. Kosovo. Wherever. The Muslims are ALWAYS the victims. Digusting.


16 posted on 12/17/2011 9:53:52 PM PST by montag813
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To: Bobalu

“The Serbs were the good guys.”

You’re right, as far as the US is concerned. Serbia was awarded that territory at the end of WWI for fighting on the Allies’ side. In WWII they were again allied with the US, Britain, and Russia. 70 years after being awarded those territories, the US and Western Europe expected the to simply relinquish it as though it was a lease - what a hoax.

I wonder how any US servicemen who killed Serbs in Operation BJ Coverup sleep at night.


17 posted on 12/18/2011 3:03:55 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: SaraJohnson

See # 17; while I’m not Serbian (or Eastern European at all), this wasn’t simply a civil war. We have a president who has been glorified for going to war as the Serbs did to preserve their country.


18 posted on 12/18/2011 3:08:43 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: hosepipe

Come on hosepipe,
“Civics, history”?
Barely enough time to teach these kids about the homosexual agenda, the communist manifesto, and Mao’s little red book.
Get real man.


19 posted on 12/18/2011 4:12:32 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: kearnyirish2

I wonder how any US servicemen who killed Serbs in Operation BJ Coverup sleep at night.

Fortuately, they mostly bombed black plastic roads, and military decoys ... that said, there still are existing images of the many bridges, towns, and trains blown up during the war. The Truth in Media site has them, but they are had to find.


20 posted on 12/18/2011 6:49:17 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Disgusting.


21 posted on 12/18/2011 6:54:07 AM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Scotswife

You mean those Croats who drove out over 250,000 Serbs in the single largest act of ethnic cleansing since WWII and who almost had their clocks cleaned by the Canadians when the Croats were slaughtering unarmed civillians in the Medak pocket or those Croats who bombed the piss out of the Muslms in Mostatr, you mean those Croats?


22 posted on 12/18/2011 8:22:46 AM PST by montyspython ((Romney-Perry-Obama ... No Way))
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To: bayouranger

Hollywood’s typical historical revisionist schtick.


23 posted on 12/18/2011 8:26:39 AM PST by montyspython ((Romney-Perry-Obama ... No Way))
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To: montyspython

yup - those Croats.

And when the Croats aren’t killing Serbs, the Serbs are killing Croats.
And when the Serbs aren’t killing Croats, they’re killing muslims.
And when the muslims aren’t getting killed - they’re killing Serbs and Croats.
And while all this killing is going on - you’ve still got those commies in the mix right?

My point? It’s very complicated. If you try to keep score, eventually it all comes full circle.

And what I usually see on this board is....people seem to think it’s as clean and easy as taking sides between serbs and muslims.

It just isn’t.


24 posted on 12/18/2011 8:44:32 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife
And when the Croats aren’t killing Serbs, the Serbs are killing Croats. And when the Serbs aren’t killing Croats, they’re killing muslims. And when the muslims aren’t getting killed - they’re killing Serbs and Croats.

....and everybody hates the Jews... (with apologies to Tom Lehrer)

25 posted on 12/18/2011 8:46:25 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: PieterCasparzen

I predict the film will bomb.


26 posted on 12/18/2011 10:02:08 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: PIF

They bombed Belgrade for weeks; I remember the burning Yugo factory (and the Italians actually relaying to the Serbs when flights were leaving their airbases - even they knew it was a hoax).


27 posted on 12/18/2011 10:20:42 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: PieterCasparzen
Just what everyone is looking for. To relive a HELL and DEATH WARMED OVER scenario.

You can't get half of America to pay attention to the destruction that Obozo is perpetrating here and they expect people to sit in a theater and watch Angelina's film depicting mass executions, rapes, etc.

I'll PASS on this one !

28 posted on 12/18/2011 10:55:10 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: montag813; All
Another “big lie” smear job of the Serbs.

Yes, must keep that anti-Serb propaganda going lest someone forget their fifteen years of Serb-hating, mental programming. Anglina Jolie is also a UN Ambassador. Coincidence? I don't thinks so.

ANYTHING to defend the Muslim hordes. Bosnia. Kosovo. Wherever. The Muslims are ALWAYS the victims. Digusting.

Yes again. But in all honesty I don't think that it is really about "defending the Muslims" per se or even about some abject hatred for Serbs. I think that it's really about the politicians and policy wonks defending THEMSELVES, their policies and their actions. The powers that be have to keep demonizing the Serbs to make what is clearly persecution and imperialistic behavior by the EU & NATO toward the Serbs seem "justified" to cover their own butts for what they are doing. So when Serb Christians in Kosovo have no heat, their churches have been blown up and their children are starving -- those that created this situation for their own benefit, must "remind the world of the Serb rapists in Bosnia" to pretend that "the Serbs are getting what they deserve".

While all this may feel very personal for those of us with Serb ancestry because Serbs are the target this time, I suggest that the intention isn't as personal as it feels. These bastard politicians would and will do the same to anyone in their way, anyone who is inconvenient to their agenda, anyone they want to steal from -- and anyone who shows them for the cold, bloodless, profiteering and narcissistic monsters that they really are.

The Serbs may have been the first victims of this complete demonization, but they won't be the last.

29 posted on 12/18/2011 11:17:41 AM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: PieterCasparzen; Bokababe; Ravnagora; kronos77

There is a review of Ms. Jolie’s (Ms. Voight’s, really) movie by Bill Dorich on the 1389 Blog, dated December 17, 2011:

http://1389blog.com/

(Due to a technical problem, I cannot link to the post directly—you’ll have to click on the main blog and then scroll down. It’s worth it!)

As the Nativity Fast winds down for some of us, and continues into early January for others of our Brothers and Sisters, please consider a donation to the Decani Monastery Fund and/or IOCC. Our Brothers and Sisters in North Kosovo especially need our help, and Fr. Nektarios Serfes of the Decani Fund is planning to go there in early 2012, despite NATO, EULEX, and the Albanians.


30 posted on 12/19/2011 12:59:09 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: PieterCasparzen; Bokababe; Ravnagora; kronos77

The technical problem has been fixed.

To see the Bill Dorich review (the best I’ve seen), go here:

http://1389blog.com/2011/12/17/review-of-in-the-land-of-blood-and-honey-a-movie-by-angelina-jolie/


31 posted on 12/19/2011 3:09:09 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Honorary Serb

It’s not fixed. I emailed them again. Its still takes you straight to Brock’s Media Cleansing book


32 posted on 12/19/2011 3:48:20 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

I just tried it again, and it was O.K.


33 posted on 12/19/2011 4:09:20 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Honorary Serb

I believe you, but I have no idea how you are getting there because that link just keeps taking me to the book when I click on it. I even tried a cut & paste and it redirected me to GM Books anyway.


34 posted on 12/19/2011 4:40:48 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

When I first noticed the problem, they told me it was my computer or browser making the error (redirecting to Dorich’s publisher’s site), not their site’s problem. Now it works for me, but not for you. ???????


35 posted on 12/19/2011 5:25:13 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Honorary Serb

OK. The link works properly in IE, it redirects to Media Cleansing in Firefox. That’s weird.


36 posted on 12/19/2011 5:29:29 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Honorary Serb

I cleared the Firefox browser cache & now it works.


37 posted on 12/19/2011 6:42:39 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: PieterCasparzen; Bokababe; Ravnagora; kronos77

Lookie here:

http://tinyurl.com/78ok8jz

Angelina Jolie (Voight) consulted “the usual suspects” in making her film.


38 posted on 12/20/2011 6:25:03 AM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Honorary Serb

The debut was “co-sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations”.

State-sponsored political propaganda at it’s finest!


39 posted on 12/20/2011 8:35:21 AM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
"it's really about the politicians and policy wonks defending THEMSELVES"

Good point.

40 posted on 12/20/2011 8:47:37 AM PST by moehoward
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To: Bokababe

......State-sponsored political propaganda at it’s finest!....

The Council on Foreign Relations is a private organization—sort of....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_on_Foreign_Relations


41 posted on 12/21/2011 8:24:17 AM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Bokababe
>>>>>>>>The debut was “co-sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations”.<<<<<<<

The propaganda pretext is the same - Bernays.

The fact that this filth is CFR job must be emphasized at all times !!!

Jolie is merely a front.

To cheer up Serbs a little bit - as log as Serbs are vilified by CFR goons they are basically O.K.

Goons want to loot Serbian land and solve "Serbian question" the same way their ancestors solved Indian and Jewish question - "the only good Serbs I know are dead".

The announcement of their victory will be when the racist propaganda against Serbs as a people stop.

Are movies as a propaganda tool damaging? Sure they are. Movies kill indirectly. From The Birth of The Nation onward.

This filth is no different. The majority of the movies help construct false view of history or reinforce already spread falsehoods. The movies that depict historical context accurately are few and far between.

Jolie's hubby acted in one. The Inglorious Basterds.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall when Brad and Angelina discussed this propaganda crap.

42 posted on 12/21/2011 8:27:19 AM PST by DTA (U.S. Centcom vs. U.S. AFRICOM)
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