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Vanity: How Michele Bachmann can take Newt out and put a hurt on Romney
Between my ears | 12/16/2011 | Jabba the Nutt

Posted on 12/16/2011 4:51:35 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt

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To: mmanager
I could've said Santorum or Perry, but Bachmann's the only one, who's attacking. I think Bachmann's biggest weakness is her personality, in that I'll agree, she comes across as humorless and desperate.

But it is, what it is. I just don't believe Newt Romney will turn the ship of state around. Bachmann will. I don't have to like her.

61 posted on 12/16/2011 6:53:05 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Give’em hell Newt. U got all the establishment marxist worried. lol

Get’em boy. lol


62 posted on 12/16/2011 6:56:11 AM PST by swampfox101 (I)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER
Gee, you nailed me. Keep up the good work.

Hmm, the Taliban call each other 'farmers'. Your handle is CHICAGOFARMER . . . who farms is Chicago. My gosh, you're a Taliban, Democrat, Taxeating troll. You're uncovered now, sucka.

63 posted on 12/16/2011 6:56:11 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Agreed, she was done a long long time ago.. has absolutely NO chance of winning the primary, let alone a national election.

However, like they say, denial isn’t just a river in Egypt.

This post isn’t wishful thinking, its flat out delusion.


64 posted on 12/16/2011 6:59:03 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: muawiyah
"Here's what happens when you are Speaker of the House and arrange to cut off funds for other Republicans ~ you end up as just another member, and there'll be a new Speaker who is a Democrat."

First, he was ousted anyways, so how did Plan A work out for Newt? Second, all I know about this is what Bachmann said last night at the debate and on Hannity. She reported that Republicans were voting to withhold funds to candidates supporting Partial Birth Abortion and Newt came in and turned that around. Sounds like Republicans disagreed with Newt, but he bigfooted to get his way. And the point is, how did that work out politically along with my Doug Hoffman example?

My friend (channeling John McCain), I think you got it backwards.

65 posted on 12/16/2011 7:00:37 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

The Republicans have departed from principle so far that they couldn’t catch sight of it even if they stood for a moment on the tallest hill.


66 posted on 12/16/2011 7:06:38 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: kevkrom
How's this "R" ueber alles working out in reality? Dede Scozzafava cancels Newt's vote, muddies the water of what it is to be a Republican and with Partial Birth Abortion; is nothing beyond the pale?

David Duke was beyond the pale and Partial Birth Abortion is NOT? Really. Did you support Arlen Specter?

This is the question I'm posing; is it only about winning, winning at all costs? We're watching the destruction of our nation at the hands of politicians mostly on the left, but also in the GOP, who play your game. More of this will save the country. Really?

I'm sick of the Realpolitik people here and in the GOP, who's policies, when they actually meet reality are a disaster. And I'm not being realistic? BS! Doing the same ol' is only going to get us the same ol' and we're twirling around the drain right now. That's the destination of the Realo's. Oh, and only Romney can win. Yeah, right.

67 posted on 12/16/2011 7:10:15 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

Well, no, you’re not being realistic because you’re starting with two flawed premises: 1) Bachmann has any prayer of winning anything and 2) that she has shown any desire or inclination to “put a hurt on Romney”.

That aside, I was referring to Gingrich’s time as Speaker. His support for Scozzafava, at a time when he held no party leadership position, is absolutely something he needs to answer for.


68 posted on 12/16/2011 7:14:17 AM PST by kevkrom (Separation of Business and State)
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To: Neverforget01
Folks, you're missing the point, if you think I'm a Bachmann supporter. I just don't see Newt Romney capable of making the decisions that we need to turn this country around.

I've been leaning more to Santorum, but I'd go for Bachmann or Perry at this point. Bachmann is the only one, who's been attacking and I think she can make a strong case against Newt Romney. She may not be the one to benefit.

69 posted on 12/16/2011 7:14:48 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: hellbender
Thank you, someone's getting it. And the point is, is this RINOism good for the party? They claim it. They claim Romney's the only one, who's electable.

RINO's kill the party. If they keep it up, the GOP will be the next Whig Party: stood for nothing, fell for everything, was everything to everyone and nothing to nobody.

70 posted on 12/16/2011 7:19:04 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: Jabba the Nutt
Sharron Angle in Nevada is trashed by the GOP grandees. Tea Party is a loser. Really.

As a Nevada independent, the Senate race last time was a toss-up and a real hair puller. Harry Reid or Sharron Angle? Sharron's record was one that made my hair stand on end as I kept looking at her history. Harry Reid's record was bad, just in a different way. I'll tell you, "none of the above" was very, very tempting.

If a political party wants to win elections, they need to put forward candidates that are attractive to the voters. Do you know how hard it is to punch that voting machine while holding your nose? McCain and Angle were just two of the Really Bad Choices this voter faced in recent elections. (At least McCain had a life one could find out about; Obama was a complete cipher, and I don't like voting for people who I can't read.)

I don't vote the brand, I vote the man...or woman. It's more work, but I think that the person in the office is more important than the machine behind the person; I had enough of the latter when I lived in Cook County.

Since I can't vote in the primary, in either party, I sit and observe, waiting for the two parties to come to consensus at their conventions. Then I take all the rhetoric from the primary elections and caucuses and get a fix on the candidates running in the general.

I will tell you that I'm a small-government, local-government advocate. I believe in balanced budgets. I believe that Parkinson's Law (the one about a mathematical equation describing the rate at which bureaucracies expand over time) requires active mitigation. I believe in sunset provisions in statutes, particularly where a particular piece of legislation is a "temporary fix". Or a "temporary tax" (what an oxymoron THAT is...or perhaps you never heard the Henny Youngman joke about nothing being as temporary as a woman's permanent, and as permanent as a temporary tax).

And I believe in the Constitution, as written and not as "interpreted" by people who stretch it all out of proportion.

November 2012 is going to be interesting. I hope you people who are voting in the primaries, or participating in the caucuses, keep in mind that you have the future of this country in your hands.

71 posted on 12/16/2011 7:21:14 AM PST by asinclair (Talk is cheap, actions are priceless)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Tell me how Partial Birth Abortion is NOT beyond the pale?

David Duke was over the line, but Partial Birth Abortion is not? And drawing this line makes me a supporter of totalitarian party discipline. Really?

72 posted on 12/16/2011 7:22:42 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: Jim Noble

I agree with you. Why should a state like Iowa, that keeps electing Tom Harkin as senator, have so much influence in who is the presidential nominee? The same goes for Liberal New Hampshire. What do they have, 3 electoral votes?


73 posted on 12/16/2011 7:30:52 AM PST by anoldafvet
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To: Jabba the Nutt
RINO's kill the party.

Newsflash: RINOs ARE the party.

Being a Republican means you stay a few notches to the right of the Democrats. But you're still a statist. You just pander to a different voting block, that's all.

74 posted on 12/16/2011 7:31:39 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

Newt was exonerated on all the ethics charges.


75 posted on 12/16/2011 7:32:01 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Westbrook
"Is it in the best interest of the party to provide support for the likes of Scuzzyface, a pro-abortion, anti-gun, “progressive” that will vote against you in Congress regardless of which side of the aisle it occupies? Or even defect to the other party when doing so would give the opposition the power to grant the aforementioned pro-abortion, anti-gun “progressive” Republican a committee chair?"

Thank you, sir. You said what I was trying to say better than I did.

No matter what Gingrich's personal views are, what kind of decisions will he make? Let's say Gingrich opposes Partial Birth Abortion, but brings in 20 GOP members of Congress, who will not vote against it? This is the realistic view of politics. Really? Really?

Here's my argument: 1. The country is being transformed into a socialist state. 2. Who will turn this around?

Will Gingrich, with his "realistic" view of politics, where a Scozzafava is to be supported and Partial Birth Abortion is not beyond the pale? How does this turn the country around?

76 posted on 12/16/2011 7:32:36 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

Doug should have started his campaign sooner.


77 posted on 12/16/2011 7:32:59 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: kevkrom
I think he simply spoke on behalf of everybody who'd gotten the Republican spot on the list.

He didn't know most of those folks. At the same time Scuzzyfuzzy was put there by district party bosses. Ire should be reserved for them.

Notice that the next winning Republican in that district was the guy who advertised himself on Craig's list ~

There are problems in that district that defy human imagination.

78 posted on 12/16/2011 7:36:18 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Redleg Duke
My warning is that Newt Romney means the self-destruction of the GOP AND the destruction of the country. My point is just electing an "R" isn't enough. The two President Bush's undermined the GOP. One main 8 years of Clinton possible and the other paved the way for Obama with their "practical, pragmatic, realistic policies". I just question how practical, pragmatic, realistic their approach really is when you actually consider the RESULTS.

What are you people, Liberals, who judge by their good intentions and ignore the catastrophic results?

79 posted on 12/16/2011 7:40:27 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: Vermont Lt
I am not pushing for Bachmann. I'm pushing for anybody but Newt Romney.

In fact, during the debate the only time I applauded and shouted support was when Newt was going after the Judges and how Congress needs to exercise its authority to impeach insane judges and even to eliminated courts.

With the current Federal Judiciary, we're doomed. I've been advocating impeachment of judges for years or decades, this is the first time I've heard any national politician take that on.

With Newt, I question his judgment and question, whether he'll really walk the walk after all the talk.

80 posted on 12/16/2011 7:44:53 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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