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Ron Paul: Blame Israel First
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Posted on 12/13/2011 10:21:32 AM PST by mnehring

Do you know who the latest Zionist on the block is? It’s the man who called Israel, “an aggressive, national socialist state” and suggested that the original World Trade Center bombing may have really been carried out by Israel.

Then there’s the solicitation letter which boasted that this courageous fellow was exposing the, “Bohemian Grove–perverted, pagan playground of the powerful. Skull & Bones: the demonic fraternity that includes George Bush and leftist Senator John Kerry, Congress’s Mr. New Money. The Israeli lobby, which plays Congress like a cheap harmonica.”

So how is he a Zionist? Ask Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic. According to him, Ron Paul is, “in one sense, a true Zionist, a believer in two core values of the Jewish liberation movement: Jewish independence and Jewish self-reliance.” The “sense” in which this is true is the sense in which the segregationists were really a black power movement who wanted black people to be independent and self-reliant.

This discussion began when the Republican Jewish Coalition failed to invite Ron Paul to their forum of leading presidential candidates. The RJC had not invited Paul back in 2007 either and there was no obvious reason for them to have done so this time around. A forum is not a debate and a Jewish group has no obligation to invite an anti-Israel candidate, just as a Catholic pro-life group has no obligation to invite Nancy Pelosi.

Goldberg perpetuates the myth that the issue is Ron Paul’s opposition to foreign aid. That is not the issue. If it were the issue, Governor Perry, who said that “The foreign aid budget in my administration for every country is going to start at zero dollars,” would not have been invited either.

Foreign aid is not the issue. The actual issue is that Ron Paul’s views on Israel and Jews (as well as American foreign policy) are indistinguishable from those of Pat Buchanan.

Ron Paul isn’t simply against foreign aid; he believes that the Israeli lobby controls Washington and involves American in foreign wars… and that this was among the causes of September 11. Paul has described the original World Trade Center bombing as a “retaliation” and during the Republican debates in 2007 and 2011 blamed American foreign policy for Al-Qaeda’s attacks.

The Buchanan comparison is true in more ways than one. Ron Paul has insisted that we should have stayed out of WW2 and let Nazi Germany and the USSR fight it out, and that by entering the war Churchill only prolonged it. Clearly this was another expression of Ron Paul’s Zionism and his desire to promote “Jewish independence and Jewish self-reliance.”

Ron Paul supporters will clamor that the above material comes from the Ron Paul Survival Report, which according to the Paul campaign was supposedly written for years by some mysterious stranger pretending to be Ron Paul. This unknown stranger discussed his time in Congress, his medical career and his wife Carol all in the first person. That the media actually bought this ridiculous explanation, even while actual Republicans were lynched for much less than writing in support of David Duke, should tell you all you need to know about Paul’s cheerleaders in the mainstream media. But let’s skip over the “Report” for a moment.

In an interview with Iranian television, Ron Paul complained that the president had not said anything to Israel about its horrible massacre, compared Gaza to a concentration camp, and made it rather clear that he sympathized with the terrorists. It wasn’t some unknown mysterious stranger signing Paul’s name to hateful screeds. It was the man himself doing an interview with the agents of a murderous regime responsible for the murders of numerous Americans.

What about the following statement in the House of Representatives?

“Bin Laden’s claims are straightforward. The U.S. defiles Islam with military bases on holy land in Saudi Arabia, its initiation of war against Iraq, with 12 years of persistent bombing, and its dollars and weapons being used against the Palestinians as the Palestinian territory shrinks and Israel’s occupation expands. There will be no peace in the world for the next 50 years or longer if we refuse to believe why those who are attacking us do it.”

Ron Paul isn’t calling for impartiality or agitating for non-interventionism because he supports Jewish self-reliance, but because he believes that Israel is the source of our problems. He has made it clear over and over again that he blames Israel’s own war on terrorists for terrorism, just as he blames America’s war on terror for terrorism against America.

Paul’s hatred for the United States government has led him to make a common intellectual cause with Islamic terrorists. As far back as his Survival Report days, Paul had gotten in the habit of responding to Islamic violence with conspiracy theories. When Tehran was calling for Rushdie’s head on a plate, Paul wondered if “Some of the people hyping the Rushdie affair have other motives? For example to make Moslems look bad for geopolitical reasons?” (Ron Paul Survival Report – April 1989)

In January 2002, Paul wrote, “How can we forever fail to address the provocative nature of U.S. taxpayer money being used to suppress and kill Palestinians and ignore the affront to the Islamic people that our military presence on their holy land of Saudi Arabia causes.” In that same article he described the terrorists as “those who so passionately hate us that suicide becomes a just and noble cause in their effort to kill and terrorize us”.

In his book, “A Foreign Policy of Freedom,” Ron Paul insisted that, “all recent presidents have reiterated our obligation to bleed for Israel.” American soldiers have never bled for Israel, but language of this sort plays well with Paul’s base, and continues feeding the myth that America’s confrontation with Islamic terror is due to Israel, rather than Islam.

Occasionally Paul switches gears and points out that a cutoff in foreign aid would be good for Israel. That may well be the case. I believe that and so do quite a few people who support Israel. But this issue stands entirely apart from Paul’s larger “Blame Israel” worldview.

Ron Paul is not simply anti-foreign aid, he is anti-Israel. That is the country he has singled out for blame over and over again. And while he has every right to his opinion, conservative Jewish groups have a right not to give him a forum.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antisemitic; israel; rino; ronpaul; ronpaultruthfile

1 posted on 12/13/2011 10:21:38 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

Ole RP sure belongs in the looney bin on some subjects.


2 posted on 12/13/2011 10:26:31 AM PST by biff (WAS)
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To: mnehring
And Glenn Beck (A huge supporter of Israel)is talking about a third party Ron Paul run???????

that's selling Us Israel down the tubes at the same time!!!!

Glenn, Get a grikp!!

3 posted on 12/13/2011 10:29:02 AM PST by Cheapskate (Play loud and carry BIG sticks!)
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To: Cheapskate

Yeah...the same thing occurred to me. Strange.


4 posted on 12/13/2011 10:32:00 AM PST by Pharmboy (She turned me into a Newt! 2012)
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To: mnehring

I just want to watch this when the Paulies show up.


5 posted on 12/13/2011 10:34:01 AM PST by MtBaldy
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To: mnehring
I will never vote fot a nut job for president --- ever.
Of course this attack is selective. I would like to hear from the victim directly. What has Ron Paul said about the Muslim Mass Murderers worldwide?
What is Ron Paul's position on the UN?

Israel is the ONLY country I am willing to support without conditions. Subject to change, should Israel morph into a mirror image of "palestine," the fictitious country.

Illegal immigration, foreign aid, welfare spending, a National budget run by ignorant, but pompous children. Those are my hot button issues, and have been for over a decade, now.

6 posted on 12/13/2011 10:35:38 AM PST by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: mnehring

As much credit as Buchanan gets for being anti-Israel, I think it would be much more accurate to compare him to Paul, rather than the other way around, if you were trying to chop one of them.

Paul is incredibly anti-Israel IMO. At least Buchanan has defended Israel’s right to defend itself.

I don’t recall seeing Paul ever say anything positive about Israel. It’s as if he operates under the theory that there would be no international political strife if it weren’t for Israel.

No, Ron, if Israel were gone the Arab states would fall in on themselves, when they weren’t focusing on finishing us off.


7 posted on 12/13/2011 10:39:43 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Why back in '88, Conservatives backed Gore in Texas. What Reagan revolution? What laegacy?)
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To: MtBaldy
Well it is after noon my time, so they should be stirring in Mom's basement or getting their break at Starbucks...
8 posted on 12/13/2011 10:43:03 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: mnehring
Here on Connecticut radio we have Jim Vicevich. A decent guy but calls himself a small L libertarian and throws in with Ron Paul. Never addresses the Cindy Sheehan, Media Benjamin connection or crazy isolationism or antisemitism etc.

I listen to him occasionally but when RP comes up, I find myself yelling at the radio.. 'wake up you fool'. RP supporters either have amnesia or secretly believe this leftest crap. Either way, it's disgusting and totally juvenile.

9 posted on 12/13/2011 10:49:04 AM PST by Track9
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To: mnehring
Ron Paul is not simply anti-foreign aid, he is anti-Israel. That is the country he has singled out for blame over and over again. And while he has every right to his opinion, conservative Jewish groups have a right not to give him a forum.

bttt

10 posted on 12/13/2011 10:59:56 AM PST by GOPJ (Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, Than a fatted calf with hatred - Proverbs 15)
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To: mnehring
Ron Paul isn’t calling for impartiality or agitating for non-interventionism because he supports Jewish self-reliance, but because he believes that Israel is the source of our problems

I wasn't aware that Ron Paul has blamed Israel for our real problems like massive unemployment, high taxes, intrusive government, welfare dependency, looting of economy by offshore banks, and the loss of American manufacturing and industrial jobs to Red China.

If Muslim terrorism is such an existential threat why after 9/11 did Bush leave the borders wide open to millions of untraceable illegal aliens from God knows where and continue to allow tens of thousands of Muslims to legally immigrate annually? And if Al Qaeda is this great enemy why did the US and NATO arm, train, and finance Al Qaeda fighters that have killed American troops in Iraq, then bomb and kill thousands of civilians to help Al Qaeda takeover Lybia? Why is the US and NATO going to help Al Qaeda takeover Syria.

11 posted on 12/13/2011 11:03:17 AM PST by Roninf5-1
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To: Roninf5-1

Spoken like a true Paultard and yet ANOTHER example of why we don’t need him or any like him (aka you) anywhere near the White House. Your first paragraph is typical of a Paulie...obfuscate what is really said and completely argue a different point and pretend it is rational. This article focused mainly on his foreign policy positions and you know it. I guess it is a prerequisite for Paul supporters to be intellectually dishonest.

As for immigration and Bush, this isn’t about Bush or his policies. And, RP has been in Congress for 30 years and what exactly has he done about our borders? Nothing. In fact, he actually voted AGAINST putting more agents along the border. AS for the US funding these terrorists...do you not know your history? Obviously you don’t and neither does Ron Paul. We initially aided these guys because we were fighting the Cold War. Guess what, we won. What would RP have done?

Lastly, since you are incoherent and incapable of thinking for yourself, let me help you. RP voted to “get the ones who attacked us on 9/11”. Yet, he and his minions say he is opposed to Afghanistan. WHY, then, did he vote to fund us going there? If he wants to get the enemy, how does he propose to do this? Think...it will help you.


12 posted on 12/13/2011 11:29:33 AM PST by chilepup
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To: chilepup

I am a Paul bot, and proudly so, because I am a libertarian. Morality is a personal responsibility, the state can not legislate it, but that does not mean I have the right to infringe on my neighbours rights. So clearly I believe that the state has some responsibility, but they are limited by the constitution.
Currently the constitution is of no effect! I see no candidate but Paul who would return us to a constitutional republic, my only dispute with Paul is his stance on open borders, but since we have de-facto open borders, my objection with him is mute. Not one of the candidates will do what is necessary to close the border between us and Mexico, or our ports of entry.
I would prefer to not live in a police state, that is created by dems or repubs and that is where we are headed, because some people fear existential threats, instead to real threats to the republic, out of control statists like both parties establishments.
Iran is not a threat to the USA, it may or may not be a threat to Israel, but I am a citizen of the USA not Israel, and being free, I choose to let Israel fight her own battles. If by chance Israel ends up fighting Iran, the last I read Israel had above two hundred nuclear weapons, currently non of the areas Islamic republics have any, seems to me Israel can more than destroy her enemy’s in a few short minutes, I see no need to fight her wars for her at all.
As a Christian, it seems to me that the lord thought we should love our enemies, and pray for them, so I will pray for you, that you will refrain from personal attacks against those with whom you disagree, as I pray that I too could refrain from outbursts caused by my frustrations at my fellow citizens.


13 posted on 12/13/2011 12:18:15 PM PST by qman (If you are prepared you can't be surprised.)
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To: qman

I have to agree with much of what you said.

Our Constitutional Republic is fast coming apart at the seams. One candidate, and one only, proposes to swing the pendulum back towards the Constitution from where Obama and BOTH parties have swung it.

I don’t like him much. I like some of his foreign policy even less, but we’re destroying this nation faster from within, than our enemies ever could.

Since we’re paying more aid to Israel’s enemies than we give to Israel, cutting off both sides ought to be a net positive for Israel. (I would prefer to cut off foreign aid to ALL nations EXCEPT Israel(and Quadruple the Aid to Israel), but that’s just me.)

If anyone can show me how Romney or Gingrich or some other candidate actually plans to drag this country back towards the constitution, cut entire agencies out of government, cut a trillion from the budget the first year, and seriously audit the Fed, you can save me from pulling the lever for Ron Paul.


14 posted on 12/13/2011 1:08:39 PM PST by EasySt (2012... Sometimes you have to flush twice.)
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To: qman

LOL, do all of your Paulies get the same talking points. To deny that Iran is a threat to us and say it may or may not be a threat to Israel shows just how dangerous you are. You have no love for Liberty because you refuse to fight those who seek to destroy it...unless it is America, then you have righteous indignation.


15 posted on 12/13/2011 7:34:38 PM PST by chilepup
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To: chilepup

1. The author of the article claimed Ron Paul said that Israel was the source of our problems. I stated was not aware of it and pointed out how ridiculous it is to blame our problems on Israel.

2.This have everything to do with Bush because almost all current US foreign and domestic policies are based on his ‘War on Terror’ fraud, and it is a fraud because if it were not Bush would have closed the borders like every country has done in war since the beginning of time.

3.Yes, US-NATO intelligence agencies funded and armed Al Qaeda to attack the Soviets during the Cold War - thirty years ago. They also funded and armed Al Qaeda to attack Lybia - this year. I thought Al Qaeda was our mortal enemy?

4.As far as I know Ron Paul originally voted to go after the operatives the were involved in 9/11. The US-NATO invasion and then decade long occupation of Afghanistan morphed into something that had little or nothing to do with what happened on 9/11. Osama Bin Laden is dead and Al Qaeda in now based in Libya and soon to be in control of Syria. Why are we still spending billions to keep the US military in Afghanistan?


16 posted on 12/14/2011 12:34:16 PM PST by Roninf5-1
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To: Roninf5-1

You are incapable of spouting anything but talking points from Ron Paul himself.

To address your point: this article addresses foreign policy. It didn’t really mention domestic issues.

2. The only thing this has to do with Bush is the fact that Ron Paul said that Bush was gleeful after 9/11. Ron Paul is a slime ball.

3. The problem here is that you assume Obama knows foreign policy. But, to wit, he knows about as much as Paul. Besides, Ron Paul doesn’t think radical islam is our problem, so he wouldn’t fight Al Queda. He thinks if we leave them alone, they will go away. This man has no clue.

4. When you use words like “occpation” for what we are doing in Afghanistan, you automatically disqualify yourself from rational discourse as you can’t think for yourself. We aren’t occupying Afghanistan...we are actually fighting those who want to destroy our nation. Ron Paul supported this right? Oh, how fickle he is and you are. BTW, UBL is dead and Paul complained about it. He is no patriot and he has no business being in the White House. Now, if you want to continue this conversation, please do not use talking points or buzz words from Ron Paul...trust me, it makes you look like you have no clue. Then again, you do support Ron Paul...


17 posted on 12/14/2011 4:50:02 PM PST by chilepup
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To: ejonesie22

Hehe. So true, so true.


18 posted on 12/14/2011 11:47:34 PM PST by MtBaldy
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To: mnehring

bkmrk


19 posted on 12/19/2011 12:46:02 PM PST by Huck (No.)
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