Nuke Update: “China Will Not Hesitate To Protect Iran With A Third World War”

SHTF Plan ^ | 12/01/2011 | Mac Slavo

[AnAmericanAbroad]

Actually, the radiation was detected over the Czech Republic (where I am).

Came from Hungary, apparently. The Hungarians deny it, of course, but the IAEA traced it back to a Hungarian source....a reactor at some university, I believe.

[X-spurt]

BINGO!

[Buckeye McFrog]

gonna be a little tough to get the container ships to WalMart with WW III going on...

[GonzoGOP]

But I think for the Chinese, covert military action is acceptable. You know, deniability and all that.

I think you have hit it there. As long as the bombs are delivered by covert Mossad/Hamas rather than missiles China is OK. As long as oil keep flowing out of the Persian gulf and into Chinese ports China doesn't care how many Iranian missile bases get flattened. But the spice must flow.

[X-spurt]

The only way the chinks could wipe out 300 Mill Americans is by tricking us into eating their poison dog treats. They may have nukes, but they sure don’t have thsat much delivery other than MARCHING over here carrying 1000 nukes on their back.

But of cource with our dear leader nobama, he might give them free cruise ship passage.

[X-spurt]

BINGO 2

[my small voice]

WWIII began 9/11/01. We have been in an intermediate period since then. The obvious shooting war cannot be too far out from here.

[SENTINEL]

"We will need the Chinese soldiers for the blood to reach bridle deep on the plains of Megiddo."

Amen brother, but the toughest of times between now and then.

[AnAmericanAbroad]

True enough....the Chinese are woefully lacking in ICBM capability.

But of course, all it takes is one SRBM or MRBM launched from some coast with a megatonnage yield weapon detonated 400 kilometers up over Oklahoma (IIRC) would pretty much be all she wrote for the US electric power grid.....as someone put, it would instantly blow us back to the mid 19th Century.

Mind you, the NorKs could pull that off as well. Well, if they had viable nukes, that is.

But for the above, I’d say China is pretty well equipped. But like you said, maybe Obama will give them free cruise ship passage to carry out their mission.

[GonzoGOP]

China has between 20-30 ICBMs. The 20 DF-5 missiles, can have as many as six warheads. They can hit anyplace in the US, but are an older design and take over an hour to prep for launch. Considering that our LGM-30s will be impacting 30 minutes after the first launch detect this limits their usefulness in anything other than a first strike.
The DF-31 missiles have shorter range and only carry a single warhead. But they are a modern solid fuel, quick launch design. They have shown up in parades, but nobody knows if they have actually been deployed operationally or if it was just a test vehicle for the more advanced DF-41.

They also have 24 JL-2 SLBMs. However the subs they are deployed on haven't left port in some time and are not believed to be serviceable. They were described by US submariners as being sufficiently noisy that having a marching band in the missile compartment wouldn't have made much of a difference. Again other than first strike they would be of limited use as they would not live long once the shooting began.

[AnAmericanAbroad]

The spice must always flow.

The Chinese are more worried about an overt war breaking out. Covert war, not so much. With the covert war, when the Iranians come whining to them, the Chinese can say, “Well, maybe you shouldn’t be such a bunch of butterfingers over there. Nuclear materials are dangerous, after all.”

It affords them the opportunity of looking the other way.

Of course, I also wonder if all the talk out of Israel lately is designed to simply keep the Iranians expecting an overt assault that never comes. It forces them to divert (mostly intelligence) resources to detecting the first sign of an airborne assault. While the Iranians are out there keeping an eye on their Western horizon, the Israelis (or Iranian agents in the Israelis employ) are blowing things up while Iranian intel is distracted.

It’s a good diversionary strategy, and because Israel lacks geographical depth, it’s evolved and adapted to take on it’s foes asymmetrically.

[sam_paine]

Sending "Rods from God" out of orbit perhaps?

[Cold Heart]

Thanks for the radiation update.

Can you get around the Czech Republic knowing just english or german?

[SENTINEL]

You’re giving Obama too much credit. Brits maybe ? Isrealis have a space program too.

[GonzoGOP]

Sending "Rods from God" out of orbit perhaps?

Oh I'm sure we would never do something like that. /sarc. After all the moment someone gets smacked by a big tungsten pole going mach 25 they would know it had Made in USA written all over it. On the other hand if you constructed it out of nickle iron it would lose some punch, but it would be hard to tell the RFG from a meteor strike. Brings a whole new level of deniability.

[GonzoGOP]

Heck if you are not in a hurry 99942 Apophis will be back in 2013. Just a little nudge and we could put that 27 million metric ton dino smasher right into the Middle East at 30 km/s. It is one of those thoughts that Just makes you feel warm and happy all over :)

[crosshairs]

We will need the Chinese soldiers for the blood to reach bridle deep on the plains of Megiddo.

Yep. They're the only ones that can provide the 200 million man army.

[sam_paine]

You’re giving Obama too much credit. Brits maybe ? Isrealis have a space program too.

Obama's got nothing to do with it. It's up there doing something!

http://www.heavens-above.com/PassSummary.aspx?satid=37375

[X-spurt]

That looks like a heck of a rocket launch cruise missle or one hellofa ride 2 man shuttle.

[X-spurt]

I get the feeling that if obama sat on his hands, there is a contingency in-place for DOD C&C to launch.

Not sure how they would get so far in as over Oklahoma, but again I fall back on first paragraph scenario.

They might smoke Taiwan, but the Chinese have 5000 years of capitalism and only 60 years of communism, am thinking sales win over protecting the squirrels in Iran or starting WW3 for any reason short of a really massive strike incoming.