Posted on 11/29/2011 11:48:44 AM PST by moonshinner_09
AMHERST - Winning the endorsement of Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio on Tuesday, Texas Gov. Rick Perry echoed his stance on illegal immigration today in the Granite State, saying he would support a federal law to "detain and deport every illegal alien that we apprehend."
During a morning campaign stop at Joey’s Diner, the presidential candidate said he would end the current catch-and-release policy that cuts loose nonviolent illegal immigrants.
Calling the policy "horrific," Perry said the future of America depends on the security of its borders. If elected, Perry said that one year after his inauguration the border with Mexico would be secure, with thousands of National Guard troops deployed and strategic fencing in high traffic areas.
“It is a federal responsibility to secure the borders,” Perry told a crowd of breakfast customers and members of the Amherst Republican Committee. The candidate said there is a need for full-time surge at the border.
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I hear you Gail. I agree.
I’ll one up you. Last I checked it was not legal to make money off of a crime committed. If someone steals someones identity and remains here illegally, I think that the party whose identity was stolen should be reimbursed by the illegal. The ill gotten gains should be liquidated, then go into a trust of sorts. That trust should pay for the most uncomfortable deportation home, and a certain amount of money should be deducted (say $2,000) for the coffers of Border Patrol or whatever, and then the trust be given over, tax free, to infringed upon party to pay to repair all of the legal problems they often have to pay, as punative damages.
There is no reason that taxpayers should have to pay for the illegals trip home. Liquidate their fraudulently attained assets and pay for all of the costs. Millions of illegals have been deported, I believe it is 3 times in U.S. History. Get them out, and get them out NOW.
Thank you. I see a lot of generic rhetoric regarding Gov. Perry but not much fact to back it up. Unless you want to beat the immigration horse past the afterlife, Perry is probably the most conservative candidate we’ve got.
And I’ll take his record over Newt’s (who also pissed conservatives off about immigration) any day.
Perry has let illegals into Texas. There are millions of illegals in Texas.
I met an illegal that makes $100 per day working for a subcontractor . And he has an American girl friend now.
So they are taking our jobs and our women too.
Perry: Deport Them! Gingrich: Cut of funds to Sanctuary Cities!
Most tend not to believe Perry.....but swallow the load of crap dispensed by Gingrich.
She has warmed up, she has been introduced, she has taken the stage and the maestro is tapping his baton...the room has grown quiet in anticipation of the first note which is due at any time. Meanwhile Rick Perry, the Pat Paulson of presidential politics is busy flip-flopping on a lifelong career of pandering to ILLEGAL aliens, remains oblivious to what is happening around him.
Yes they do. The law signed by Perry gives in-state tuition to illegals themselves, not to their anchor baby kids who didn’t need a law.
This guy had his moment, he’s not ready for prime time.... I don’t know what he’s doing anymore other than maybe trying to vie for a VP spot which I don’t think he’s ready for that either.
Nice guy, glad he’s on our side, but its time to go back to Texas.
Agreed. Oblivious is the key word.
“Hey, I was a Conservative when I backed Gore over Reagan’s legacy. Honest!”
This guy has been well done since day one.
ROTFLOL Sure he will.
Remember how he used the word “secession” to a tea party crowd right before the last gubernatorial election.
I couldn't agree more. George W. Bush was deemed a moron by many but he was head and shoulders above Perry when it comes to running for the highest office in the land.
I never thought a man considered dumber than Bush or, 'like Bush only without the brains' would stand a chance in this primary presidential race. Turns out, Rick Perry himself has proved me right.
11 years later, after standing, watching the U.S. and Texas being overrun...Suddenly the future of America is at stake...
Ya can't make this stuff up..
Yes... But George W. Bush never pledged to deport “every illegal” alien.
I thought Perry was offering them in-state tuition.
Deportation is federal, in-state tuition isn’t. Reconciled.
Didn’t he was in favor of secession. I said that he used the word while talking to a tea party crowd. I was responding to the word “pander”
Gee, I wonder if he would detain and deport the illegal college students in Tejas that he is now awarding in-state tuition to?
Sorry, I’ve seen people claiming Perry supported secession when it couldn’t be further from the truth, and I didn’t mean to lump you in there with those folks.
“Yes they do. The law signed by Perry gives in-state tuition to illegals themselves,
Tes that is what i said BUT it does NOT give them funds, They still have to pay for it.
They also must have attended a Texas HS for the previous 3 years and graduated in good standing or a GED.
i disagree with what Perry did and think all illegals should go back
I just hate when people misrepresent what was actually done.
What was done was bad enough without making it sound like Perry gave free college to illegal kids.
To repeat we should cut off ALL benefits to illegals except patching them up in a hospital enough to get back to the border if they are sick.
Cut off ALL benefits and they will leave and take their anchor babies with them
pretty simple and quite humane since we know they wouldn’t want to break up their family.
I like Perry......
Fip Flop Perry.
I agree. Perry can only do so much now.
Of course we know that no one in the Washington establishment will help the next president the way they have covered for the vermin we have now.
Illegals are not only stealing the identities of adults but also of children. There was a identity theft ring that was operating from hospitals in Utah. They stole the social security numbers of some of the children that had used the hospital and then sold the numbers to illegals. They preferred the children’s social security numbers because they could be used for many years before the child grows up and starts using the number. But we are supposed to cry salty tears for the poor illegals who totally run rough shod over us with no concern for us as human beings.
Yep!
Now THAT’S a perfect plan!
It’s time to clarify the 14th Amendment regarding birthright citizenship. Citizenship should not be given to anyone who is born in the United States to illegal alien parents. This would do a lot to turn off the illegal alien spigot.
What haven’t patriotic Americans been called? Bigots, xenophobes, nativists and anti-immigrant and much of this came from Republicans. The knife in the back is the deepest cut.
You'd trust a flip flopping liar then, so why no just vote for Romney? Perry's record and own words show a man who is schizophrenic on immigration.
Perhaps he’ll address deporting all those illegals he gave tuition breaks to. Meanwhile, all his ag friends are pouring money into his campaign.
definitely. the House voted to make it easier for immigrants to bring in family members... ugh
Another candidate that is copying the cain doctrine of border security. ENFORCE THE LAWS...
Gov. Perry has my vote!
was he lying before? or is he lying now?
or did he mean it would be heartless to not give them an in-state tuition FIRST, and then deport them?
I believe it, illegals make me sick. I have strong feelings about immigration and illegal immigration, and those who steal the identity of another have a special place reserved for them. Last I checked, a bearing false witness was a no-no.
“The law signed by Perry gives in-state tuition to illegals themselves, not to their anchor baby kids who didn’t need a law.”
Right, enough with this “Children of illegals” doublespeak babble. Either they are anchor babies (who aren’t really legally citizens, but due to a skewed reading of the law and Republicans being complicit, we call them citizens), or they are illegals. This “Children of illegals” is merely an attempt to cut out the fact that THEY ARE ILLEGALS, too.
Why not just say; we get rid of the law breakers first; including Gang members - a welcome 'go home' MO.
That said; there is so much 'hot politics' here; in every breath inhaled/word spoken. Save for Newt that is. . .who is far more articulate; than either Romney or Perry; and more honest than Michelle.
Well, he said every illegal apprehended. Again; 'apprehended' - meaning they are criminal by 'virtue' of being here illegal - or - does he mean illegals who commit other crimes and who are then 'wanted' and hopefully; apprehended?
Semantics have meaning; especially when using words as 'doublespeak' cover. In which case; meaning is thus rendered 'moot'.
The law applies to children who were brought here illegally by their parents. It is a small number who qualify for college admission; they generally apply to community colleges and they pay full instate tuition. They have to have attended Texas public schools (which feds say you can’t check legal status) for a minimum of 3 years, graduated and apply for citizenship.
CIS and the Texas Immigrant-Job MythThere is no reason to believe that 81 percent of new jobs were filled by immigrants in Texas.
Rick Perry and Texas Job Numbers ( How good was job creation in the Lone Star State?)
Misfire: Romney Ad Targets Rick Perry's Jobs Record "I think it's safe to say the Romney campaign is going for the kill with its latest attack on Rick Perry. The former Massachusetts Governor has already gotten a fair amount of mileage out of attacking his Texan rival from the left on Social Security, and from the right on immigration, but this new spot strikes at the heart of the Perry campaign's raison detre -- jobs, jobs, jobs:
The Facts --Mitt Romney's political ad
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The spot's most striking image is a tumbleweed blowing along a deserted Texas highway. That's rich. It's intended to create the impression that Rick Perry's Texas is something of a depressed ghost town. Nothing could be further from the truth. Since the recession began, desperate job seekers have flocked to Texas at a clip of roughly 1,000 people per day. And they're finding work, too. Despite a huge population influx and a bruising national recession, Texas' unemployment rate remains below the national average. How remarkable has the Lone Star State's economic performance been? Read this Political Math analysis (written by a self-professed non Perry supporter), and marvel. One telling data point:
Betting on Rick Perry - a winner in a GOP year, with no need in the world to win liberal approval ………..”IT WILL BE THE JOBS ISSUE—and Texas’s record in creating them—that will define Rick Perry’s presidential run. Since he became governor in 2001, the U.S. as a whole has had a net loss of private-sector jobs, while Texas—which has only 8 percent of the nation’s population—has had a net gain of 825,000 jobs.
Richard Fisher, president of the Dallas Federal Reserve Board, told me that if you look at the number of jobs created since the recession technically ended in June 2009, Texas has accounted for 48 percent of net new jobs created in the U.S.
Fisher also disparages claims that the jobs are all low-paying jobs at McDonald’s or Walmart, paying the minimum wage, or that they were primarily caused by the oil and natural gas boom. According to Tom Pauken of the Texas Work Force Commission, the annual median wage in Texas in 2010 for all occupations was $31,500 a year, only 7 percent below the national average. That difference is easily explained by the fact that Texas has a younger workforce than most states and a higher percentage of workers in lower-pay agriculture jobs near the border with Mexico. [ CW: Cost of living in Texas is lower than many other states; Texas has no state income tax; Texas is a right to work state.]
As for where the job growth has been, three sectors of the economy have grown faster than the energy sector, which alone added 40,500 net new jobs in 2010. Last year, Texas added 57,900 new jobs in trade, transportation, and utilities; a total of 53,400 jobs in professional and business services; and 44,900 net new jobs in the hospitality industry.
For each of the past seven years, CEOs polled by “Chief Executive” magazine have rated Texas first in the nation for economic development climate and job growth. What is the secret of Texas’s success? Rick Perry isn’t shy about his answer. “It’s all about four points,” he told me. “First, don’t spend all the money. Keep the taxes low and under control. Have regulations that are fair and predictable so business owners know what to expect from one quarter to the next. And reform the legal system so that frivolous lawsuits don’t paralyze employers who are trying to create real wealth.”
If there is on issue which Perry has made a personal crusade, it is lawsuit reform. Working with the legislature, he has helped pass curbs on frivolous lawsuits, implemented a first-in-the-nation system under which loser pays all court costs in many lawsuits, and reformed medical malpractice law.
Dick Weekley, the co-founder of Texans for Lawsuit Reform, says Perry showed genuine political courage in resisting calls for watered-down reforms that wouldn’t have addressed the core problem. He recalls that in 2002 Perry vetoed a bill strongly supported by doctors that would have required them to prompt payment from health maintenance organizations. In the eyes of the tort reform advocates, the bill was a Trojan Horse compromise negotiated between doctors and trial lawyers. “There was a huge response from physicians [against the veto],” Kim Ross, the former top lobbyist for the Texas Medical Association, said. TMA went so far as to endorse Tony Sanchez, Perry’s millionaire Democratic opponent in the 2002 election. “Perry sent a signal that he wanted real reform and would stand his ground,” Weekley told me. “Soon the medical lobbyists playing footsie with the trial lawyers were gone and the obstacles to real reform started falling.”………………..
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AND now the TMA is endorsing Gov. Rick Perry. They understand now what he was doing would HELP them.
A poignant moment of deja vu; and another painful look at Perry, who dismissed with a smile; and in same breath; his voting age snafu.
As for his latest offering of 'apprehending illegals' - think his wife 'made him say it'.
Not only did I never address you, I don’t care what you have to say. I was referring to a term used, with regard to another FReeper. You have some more hopeless Perry articles to spam, I’m sure. Now run along deary, you have nothing important to say to me. Kiss, Kiss!
That’s what he’s been saying all along - the feds aren’t doing their job. Of all the candidates - he’s the one that would make it a priority to secure the border and knows more what will work and what will not work.
“Well, he said every illegal apprehended. Again; ‘apprehended’ - meaning they are criminal by ‘virtue’ of being here illegal - or - does he mean illegals who commit other crimes and who are then ‘wanted’ and hopefully; apprehended? “
good point
I would take either. we’d be light years ahead of where we are now
Don’t take this personal, because it isn’t intended that way. You didn’t develop these studies. For all I know they are accurate.
There’s still an old saying and it goes something like this.
Figures lie, and liars figure.
In my line of business, I get detailed about certain products. All sides produce information that detracts from their competitors and increases their own product’s stature.
The problem is, none of them are actually lying. Everything they present is true. At the same time, each of them are provided lop-sided presentations intended to make their product the clear choice.
When I see these reports about Perry, that’s my take away. When he came to the state, it wasn’t in dire straights. He probably did make some decent moves. We all know some he made that weren’t so decent, at least to some of us.
I cannot endorse Perry. I won’t be voting for him.
I appreciate your support for him. Loyalty can be a good thing. I think it can also be misguided. That’s my take on it.
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