Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Camera network will focus on jaguars Financed by Homeland Security
Arizona Daily Star ^ | 11/25/2011 | Tony Davis

Posted on 11/28/2011 11:17:58 AM PST by girlangler

Arizona-New Mexico project aims to learn more about imperiled cats Camera network will focus on jaguars

Starting next year, jaguars will be the target of an extensive network of remote cameras placed across Southern Arizona and southwest New Mexico.

In a three-year, $771,000 project that has been greeted warmly by environmentalists but warily by cattle growers, University of Arizona researchers will try to learn more about the status and presence of the endangered animal.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderwars; environment; homelandsecurity; usmexicoborder; wildlife

1 posted on 11/28/2011 11:18:05 AM PST by girlangler
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: girlangler

Yes indeed.

The E-type is very rare, and quite beautiful.


2 posted on 11/28/2011 11:19:12 AM PST by Da Coyote (Liberalism - when you absolutely, positively have no ability to produce wealth.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: girlangler

Betcha they catch more illegal aliens than jaguars.


3 posted on 11/28/2011 11:19:36 AM PST by MeganC (Are you better off than you were four years ago?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: girlangler
My guess is that lots of hunters in those states will wind up with lots of new ‘trailcams’.
4 posted on 11/28/2011 11:21:33 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Da Coyote

LOL!


5 posted on 11/28/2011 11:22:02 AM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: jazusamo; Grammy; SJackson; MHGinTN; bert; CrappieLuck; billhilly; george76

Why isn’t U.S. Fish & Wildlife financing this? Anybody think this will lead to more excuses not to secure the border (Border Patrol traffic, etc. will disrupt the jaguar)?


6 posted on 11/28/2011 11:22:21 AM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MeganC
Maybe the jaguars can catch illegal aliens?


7 posted on 11/28/2011 11:23:42 AM PST by dirtboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Da Coyote
Yes indeed. The E-type is very rare, and quite beautiful.

I resemble that remark!

8 posted on 11/28/2011 11:30:03 AM PST by JaguarXKE
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: girlangler

>>Why isn’t U.S. Fish & Wildlife financing this? <<

Because Fish & Wildlife didn’t have all those unused cameras and resources laying around.
I strongly support a healthy Jaguar population. If plentiful enough they might aid is securing the border and they don’t suck up wages or pensions. What’s worse, loose a few head of cattle to a Jaguar or your ranch to the drug trade?
You can bet the Government will quit this when they find out Jaguars don’t vote democrat.


9 posted on 11/28/2011 11:41:41 AM PST by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: girlangler; jazusamo; george76
Anybody think this will lead to more excuses not to secure the border (Border Patrol traffic, etc. will disrupt the jaguar)?

It already has. I read this story the other day on some dot.com news and, yes, there was already some "talk" that a secure border fence "might" disrupt the peregrinations of jaguars.

As for me, I'm thrilled by this recent jaguar sigting in SE Arizona. I think the last one was in the late 90s in the Peloncillo Mountains on the New Mexico/ Arizona border, so there ARE jaguars down there.

As for the "traffic" of big cats (or Sonoran pronghorn) across the border, the situation can be easily resolved by having strategically placed open areas along the border without a physical fence. But at those points without a physical fence, HAVE THE AREA MANNED BY BORDER PATROL AGENTS! This would let wildlife through, and keep human smugglers/illegal aliens out.

This idea is not new -- it's been discussed before -- but the Left won't sign onto it, despite their "concerns" for wildlife.

To call these leftist environmentalists a bunch of filthy hypocrites is to dishonor the phrase "filthy hypocrite."

And by the way, where was my ping, girlangler?????

LOL!

10 posted on 11/28/2011 12:05:50 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: girlangler

Why does each government project worth, say, $75,000 cost close to a $ million???

My previous town in RI resurfaced six high school tennis courts, and put up new fencing for a total bill of $700,000. That was after irrigating the middle school soccer pitch for $450,000.


11 posted on 11/28/2011 12:19:42 PM PST by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Flycatcher

It’s been so long since I posted anything. I knew I was missing someone, but how could I have missed one of my favorite freepers?

I am in New Mexico now until March. Going to Bosque Del Apache this week to see all the migrating birds, including Sandhill Cranes.

Freepmail me and let me know how you are doing. I’m freelancing for some newspapers.


12 posted on 11/28/2011 12:24:45 PM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: girlangler

Operation Fast and Furry-ous!


13 posted on 11/28/2011 12:27:22 PM PST by N. Theknow (Idi Obama = Just your everyday, ordinary, 3rd World Dictator)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dirtboy

Uh....we’d have to train them....get them conditioned to something common amongst them....


14 posted on 11/28/2011 12:27:22 PM PST by Gaffer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Flycatcher

Yes, I too am thrilled about the jaguars. I’m not too far from the Gila National Forest.

This story is one to watch.


15 posted on 11/28/2011 12:27:57 PM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: girlangler; jazusamo
I'm off to Pahranagat National Wildlife Refuge (Nevada) for three full days of bird surveys and waterfowl/raptor counts.

I'll FReepmail you when I get back.

I'll FReepmail you too, Jaz.

Hey girlangler -- I turned Jaz and his wife into birders now!!!

I KNEW I could do it.

Catch ya later!

16 posted on 11/28/2011 12:45:19 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Flycatcher

Have fun


17 posted on 11/28/2011 1:06:48 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: girlangler; jazusamo

The border is not important to the DUmmies looking for new illegal voters


18 posted on 11/28/2011 1:10:50 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Flycatcher; jazusamo

It’s fun watching birds. My boyfriend is somewhat of a bird expert. He is getting me into it now. Glad to hear we have one more thing in common Jaz.

Be careful and have fun Flycatcher.


19 posted on 11/28/2011 1:43:26 PM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: george76

You nailed it george.


20 posted on 11/28/2011 3:14:24 PM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: girlangler
I assume we're not discussing the non-indigenous Jaguar Guapote, Cichlasoma managuense, now found in several states, rather the kitty kat.


21 posted on 11/28/2011 4:12:19 PM PST by SJackson (Haven't changed the environment, just take a bath. Eat a piece of chocolate. You need one. Michelle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Iowa Granny; Ladysmith; Diana in Wisconsin; JLO; sergeantdave; damncat; phantomworker; joesnuffy; ..
If you’d like to be on or off this Outdoors/Rural/wildlife/hunting/hiking/backpacking/National Parks/animals list please FR mail me. And ping me is you see articles of interest.

Jaguars are nice I guess. Note In a three-year, $771,000 project that has been greeted warmly by environmentalists but warily by cattle growers , taxpayers don't enter the discussion. What's that for, 1,000 trail cams at $100 each (quanity discount) and $671,000 to filter out the pictures of illegals and drug dealers from the jaguars. They'll fina a Mexican Wolf and need another $771,000

22 posted on 11/28/2011 4:16:06 PM PST by SJackson (Haven't changed the environment, just take a bath. Eat a piece of chocolate. You need one. Michelle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: girlangler

yawn. I prefer Cougars........


23 posted on 11/28/2011 4:27:47 PM PST by isom35
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SJackson


24 posted on 11/28/2011 4:48:23 PM PST by Daffynition ( **Socialism, in general, has a record of failure so blatant that only an effete could ignore it**)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Daffynition

Is that third one a badger? Where was that from?


25 posted on 11/28/2011 5:03:10 PM PST by SJackson (Haven't changed the environment, just take a bath. Eat a piece of chocolate. You need one. Michelle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: SJackson

I believe these shots were attributed to the Texas border area.


26 posted on 11/28/2011 5:15:46 PM PST by Daffynition ( **Socialism, in general, has a record of failure so blatant that only an effete could ignore it**)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: SJackson
I'm not really sure what it's called. A Coati? Someone from Texas will have to tell us.


27 posted on 11/28/2011 5:22:14 PM PST by Daffynition ( **Socialism, in general, has a record of failure so blatant that only an effete could ignore it**)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Daffynition

I think coati mundi


28 posted on 11/28/2011 5:36:09 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: dirtboy

That was a good movie.....................


29 posted on 11/28/2011 5:40:48 PM PST by Osage Orange (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Daffynition
OK, of course. Not thinking I was surprised by what a badger down there. I think of them being from snow country. Badger, coati, polecat, all the same thing, kinda. They're badgers in the north. Not seen in crowds like that, other than sports events.

Up here they frequently look like this.


30 posted on 11/28/2011 5:55:14 PM PST by SJackson (Haven't changed the environment, just take a bath. Eat a piece of chocolate. You need one. Michelle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Flycatcher; girlangler; george76
Anybody think this will lead to more excuses not to secure the border (Border Patrol traffic, etc. will disrupt the jaguar)?

Yep, Fly is right, the enviro-nazis are already using the jaguar as an excuse to prevent fencing the border.

At the same time he has a logical and workable solution to the problem a solid fence would pose to wildlife and wildlife would adapt to those crossings.

Glad to hear you're getting into birding, girl. I've only scratched the surface but it's both interesting and exciting when you can study and identify species.

Thanks for posting this and happy to see you!

31 posted on 11/28/2011 6:02:22 PM PST by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: SJackson
Obligatory:Badgers
32 posted on 11/28/2011 6:12:00 PM PST by Daffynition ( **Socialism, in general, has a record of failure so blatant that only an effete could ignore it**)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: jazusamo

Good to see you Jaz. I haven’t been on here much. Back working for newspapers and now that I am in New Mexico covering some issues here.

Miss all my freeper friends.


33 posted on 11/28/2011 8:35:58 PM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: SJackson

White nosed Coatimundi

34 posted on 11/28/2011 8:39:37 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: MeganC

“Betcha they catch more illegal aliens than jaguars.”

True, but as both are ‘protected classes’, imagine the cognitive dissonance when one ‘protected class’ begins to eat the other.


35 posted on 11/28/2011 9:00:53 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: girlangler; LegendHasIt; Rogle; leapfrog0202; Santa Fe_Conservative; DesertDreamer; ...

NM list PING! Click on the flag to go to the Free Republic New Mexico message page.

(The NM list is available on my FR homepage for anyone to use. Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from the list.)

36 posted on 11/29/2011 6:41:09 PM PST by CedarDave
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Steamburg

The ranchers aren’t worried about the cattle the possible jaguars might eat. After all if the jaguars are actually here they are already munching cattle once in a while. The ranchers are worried that if there is proof jaguars travel in this area the dudley do-gooders will not want cattle there to “disturb” them- that the area will be declared some sort of refuge or whatever. The area in this state where they believe there are jaguars is mostly deeded but even that doesn’t always stop the nature nazis when they have a cause.

Jaguars have been seen in this area 4 or 5 times in the last hundred years, only one person has pictures to back up their story and some have questioned where those pictures were actually taken. The theory among the older ranchers/cowboys is that the jaguars actually live in Mexico and once in a blue moon one wanders across the border. The ranchers don’t want their whole way of life changed for a critter that doesn’t really even live here.


37 posted on 11/29/2011 7:06:05 PM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Flycatcher
the situation can be easily resolved by having strategically placed open areas along the border without a physical fence. But at those points without a physical fence, HAVE THE AREA MANNED BY BORDER PATROL AGENTS! This would let wildlife through, and keep human smugglers/illegal aliens out.

Please don't tell me you honestly believe a wild animal will actually wander right by the Border Patrol. If the Border Patrol is far enough from the opening for the jaguars or any other wild animal to feel secure enough to pass through- you can bet the illegals will have an actual trail beat out in no time.

38 posted on 11/29/2011 7:13:47 PM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Tammy8

Point Taken

Black footed Ferret, Prebel’s Mouse, etc.


39 posted on 11/29/2011 7:44:41 PM PST by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: Tammy8

Dogs are our 1st line of defense. They see, hear, smell and sense what we never will. Shelters around the nation are euthenizing good, healthy, working class mutts whose lives would be better spent serving us on our borders. Not to harm, but to alert and defend. Don’t tell me these invaders have good intentions - they are stealing our heritage from our children! In Appalacia alone, where Americans have served, suffered and died generationally, to protect the Constitution, children are undernourrished, undereducated and their hope undermined, while billions in state coffers are spent on illegals, containing, maintaining, educating and deporting. The states’ immigration laws are sound and basic definitions of correctness.


40 posted on 11/29/2011 7:57:45 PM PST by mashep
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: mashep
The prevailing attitude seems to be “nothing is too good for the illegals” as long as the taxpayer pays for it all.
41 posted on 11/29/2011 10:27:31 PM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: Iowa Granny; Ladysmith; Diana in Wisconsin; JLO; sergeantdave; damncat; phantomworker; joesnuffy; ..
If you’d like to be on or off this Outdoors/Rural/wildlife/hunting/hiking/backpacking/National Parks/animals list please FR mail me. And ping me is you see articles of interest.

Wow, $771,000 for a couple hundred trailcams. Probably serviced by students paying to do a for credit internship. No wonder we're broke. I hope they're instructed to delete pictures of bipeds, carrying drugs or nothing. Hopefully not Stingers. Don't want to invade their privacy.

42 posted on 12/01/2011 4:13:35 PM PST by SJackson (Haven't changed the environment, just take a bath. Eat a piece of chocolate. You need one. Michelle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Daffynition

I would LOVE to know what the little kitty on the right part of the picture is thinking....


43 posted on 12/01/2011 5:54:10 PM PST by momtothree
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: momtothree

I’ll bet she’s deaf [pure white cats frequently are] ... she’s probably wondering *Who let the badgers out*?


44 posted on 12/01/2011 6:15:15 PM PST by Daffynition ( *Socialism, has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore it*)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: Daffynition

I actually thought she may be thinking, “This is the UGLIEST bunch of cats I have ever seen!”


45 posted on 12/01/2011 7:22:02 PM PST by momtothree
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson