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10-year-old Wash. boy defends mom with BB gun
Associated Press ^ | Nov. 22, 2011

Posted on 11/22/2011 5:08:33 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

BELLINGHAM, Wash. (AP) - Police in Bellingham, Wash., say a 10-year-old boy defended his mother from an attacker by shooting him in the face with a BB rifle as many as four times.

The man accused of the attack rents a room in the woman's home and came home drunk and angry Tuesday morning. Police say he kicked in a bedroom door and started choking the woman.

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1 posted on 11/22/2011 5:08:37 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

2 posted on 11/22/2011 5:10:05 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

HE’LL SHOOT YER EYE OUT!

I couldn’t resist


3 posted on 11/22/2011 5:10:58 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Will the boy be charged in the incident? . . . You never know.
4 posted on 11/22/2011 5:11:36 PM PST by Realman30 ("I've already made a donation to Haiti. It's called taxes". . . . El Rushbo.)
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To: re_nortex

dang, beat me by 50 some seconds


5 posted on 11/22/2011 5:11:58 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Free ThinkerNY

LOL, there’s a Marine recruiter standing outside this kid’s house now.


6 posted on 11/22/2011 5:12:32 PM PST by Ronin (If we were serious about using the death penalty as a deterrent, we would bring back public hangings)
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To: re_nortex

Was the intruder Black Bart?


7 posted on 11/22/2011 5:12:40 PM PST by San Jacinto
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To: Realman30

Give that young man some training and a decent gun to protect himself and his Momma. He show gread courage and fortitude, much needed in today’s society.


8 posted on 11/22/2011 5:13:16 PM PST by Deagle
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To: Free ThinkerNY

and it was a pump action bb gun too! those weren’t real quick shots.


9 posted on 11/22/2011 5:13:35 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre

I’m surprised I got it posted that quickly. Normally my posts of this sort are just a feeble GMTA. :-)


10 posted on 11/22/2011 5:13:40 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Good job, kid!


11 posted on 11/22/2011 5:16:12 PM PST by Altariel (`)
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To: Deagle

Heck yeah! If I lived there I’d buy him a CO2 powered repeater so he could get more shots off next time!

LOL


12 posted on 11/22/2011 5:16:26 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: San Jacinto

Nowadays, he's better known as Youthful Bart.

13 posted on 11/22/2011 5:16:26 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Just think if he had used a .22!


14 posted on 11/22/2011 5:19:11 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: mamelukesabre

Heh, in the words of a famous politician - you betcha!


15 posted on 11/22/2011 5:19:24 PM PST by Deagle
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To: mamelukesabre

A CO2 powered rifle could kill the intruder. FACT.

Some of them cost lots of bucks and have a velocity like a .22 rifle.

One of those between the eyes and it is over. Not a toy.

Cudos for the 10 year old.


16 posted on 11/22/2011 5:29:43 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Ronin

That, or perhaps an advertising rep from Daisy.


17 posted on 11/22/2011 5:31:02 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Texas Fossil

not the ones that use those little disposable bic lighter sized cartridges.


18 posted on 11/22/2011 5:33:23 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Texas Fossil

He deserves a .22, lots of cartridges, and some training. I would do it for free if I lived in Washington.


19 posted on 11/22/2011 5:43:31 PM PST by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: re_nortex
More details here:

“Police say 10-year-old boy fought off mother's attacker with BB gun”

http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/police-say-10-year-old-boy-shot-mothers-attacker-b/nFkHg/

Police said Newman tried to get back into the home through an unlocked window, and as the victim tried to shut the window, Newman grabbed her arm.

When the woman couldn’t break Newman’s grip, her son came into the room with a pump-action BB rifle, police said.

Police said once Newman saw the rifle, he made threats to kill both the victim and her son.

20 posted on 11/22/2011 5:50:37 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: marktwain

Yep, I know a lot of people like you.

There was a time that this type of incident was treated like a “local” issue by the Police. It worked quite effectively.

The article did not mention the boy’s father, so I assume he was not there. The young man deserves a lot of credit for how he handled it.


21 posted on 11/22/2011 5:54:02 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

If it was a pump action one it was probably a Daisy 25. I guarantee that would hurt. When I was a kid my best friend had one and I had a lesser Daisy.

We used to have air rifle wars in which we would basically play cowboys and Indians with our air rifles. I was at a severe disadvantage and remember even at 25 yards or so, that model 25 would really hurt.

One thing that we were fairly smart about is we would wear our swim goggles to protect our eyes.


22 posted on 11/22/2011 6:02:32 PM PST by yarddog
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To: mamelukesabre
Standard .22 LR 40gr is rated at a muzzle velocity of 1,138 fps.

Benjamin Trail NP XL1100 .22 Cal Air Rifle

Gas Piston Technology uses Nitrogen as the power source

Caliber.22 Caliber

Velocity- up to 1100 fps

23 posted on 11/22/2011 6:07:53 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: yarddog

You and I have had similar experiences. Those BB guns sting! Paintball made the BB gun wars obsolete.


24 posted on 11/22/2011 6:09:03 PM PST by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: Texas Fossil
I have some high powered pellet rifles. Even the heaviest pellets are usually no more than 11 grains, while an ordinary .22 is 40 grains in weight.

A .22 is a pretty powerful projectile weapon. I would take it over a bow or crossbow any day.

25 posted on 11/22/2011 6:11:08 PM PST by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: yarddog
My brother and I thought we were great white hunters when we got our first Daisy pump BB guns.

One afternoon we brought in a Cottontail Rabbit we killed with them. A BB in the right spot can be deadly.

Then we graduated to C02 powered 22. cal. pellet guns. Those were effective on small game. Rabbits, birds, squirrels.

I used my father's break-over 1.77 cal. pellet rifle this year to take care a bunch of birds that were destroying his grape crop. Found that a direct hit on the side of the bird only knocked the feathers out. But if you shot for the head, almost any shot was fatal.

26 posted on 11/22/2011 6:14:43 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

There are a few air guns which are powerful enough for medium sized game, deer etc. but most of the standard ones, even the magnums are quite a bit under a .22 LR.

That Benjamin shoots a pellet which typically weighs around 14-15 grains and that 1100 fps is very optimistic. Standard .22LR bullet weighs around 36-40 grains with the 40 grains being most common.

I do have a Diana RWS mdoel 48 which probably does shoot a .177 8 grain pellet around 1200 fps and it will do just fine on small game. Still not up to a .22 rimfire.


27 posted on 11/22/2011 6:16:30 PM PST by yarddog
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To: marktwain

Yes, I agree. A single well placed .22 rimfire rifle round to the head would probably be fatal.


28 posted on 11/22/2011 6:17:00 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

I killed a coatamundi in Panama with a .177. It was a Beeman C-1, as I remember. Nice little pellet gun. I sold it before I came back to the States.


29 posted on 11/22/2011 6:17:51 PM PST by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Get him to an Appleseed!
30 posted on 11/22/2011 6:19:02 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: marktwain

Here is a pellet that is heavy. I am sure the fps would drop but the impact would be more:

Beeman Kodiak Double Gold Pellets
.22 Caliber 21.14 GR 200 ct

http://www.airgunsbbguns.com/22_caliber_pellets_air_guns_s/115.htm

http://www.airgunsbbguns.com/v/vspfiles/photos/bee3250DG-1.jpg


31 posted on 11/22/2011 6:20:36 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

The local Wal-Mart carries the Benjamin Nitro piston and I have been tempted to buy one.

The thing which keeps me from doing so is I remember all those GM cars from the 1980s which used gas pistons instead of springs to help lift the hood.

I have yet to see one in which the gas has not escaped leaving them dead.


32 posted on 11/22/2011 6:21:23 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Texas Fossil

>I used my father’s break-over 1.77 cal. pellet rifle [...]

Near 1.8 in, wow!! ;)
I assume you mean .177 cal.


33 posted on 11/22/2011 6:23:36 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: rabidralph; All

Appleseed is the place for him!


34 posted on 11/22/2011 6:24:20 PM PST by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Yep. .177

Sorry


35 posted on 11/22/2011 6:26:02 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: marktwain

Paintballs and cheap eye protection glasses has probably saved a lot of kids eyesight.

When I was growing up we had some neighbors, country neighbors who lived about a mile away. They had five red headed boys who were wild as could be. I enjoyed playing with them but never would have gone hunting with one of them.

I was not too surprised when one day I heard one of them had shot his brother in the eye with a BB gun. He lost around 60% of his vision in that eye.


36 posted on 11/22/2011 6:26:54 PM PST by yarddog
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To: yarddog

My brother and I had 10 shot bolt action Crossman CO2 repeaters.

We thought we were the stuff.

Then came the .22 rifles and the 20 ga. shotguns. My did we enjoy quail and dove hunting. And we held our own with the adults. The old guys really enjoyed that.

Fond memories.


37 posted on 11/22/2011 6:28:40 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
A woman would need to be very knowledgeable about who she rents a room to in her home. It would, most likely, not be wise to rent one to almost any man who she didn't know exceptionally well or not rent to a man at all, especially when she has a child/children.
38 posted on 11/22/2011 6:30:23 PM PST by Bellflower (Judas Iscariot, first democrat, robber, held the money bag, claimed to care for poor: John 12:4-6)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Bellingham, WA...???

Sorry kid.... assault with a deadly in this state???
.... 25-to-life...

Oh yeah.... You will be tried as an adult!

39 posted on 11/22/2011 6:30:47 PM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: marktwain

Beeman C-1

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL99/804363/8662212/118855668.jpg


40 posted on 11/22/2011 6:33:30 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

More here..... http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2011/11/22/2282271/police-10-year-old-shoots-moms.html


41 posted on 11/22/2011 6:34:10 PM PST by luckymom (Forget the baby whales, save the baby humans.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
So will the kid now be deemed to be dangerous and required to undergo non violence counseling?
42 posted on 11/22/2011 6:36:47 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: Texas Fossil
Had a Sheridan as a teen,it could put a pellet thru a 1 inch thick pine board. Not too shabby for an air rifle.
43 posted on 11/22/2011 6:55:27 PM PST by nomad
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To: Texas Fossil

That is it. Mine did not have the suppressor on the end of the barrel, and I put a peep sight on it.


44 posted on 11/22/2011 7:14:32 PM PST by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: Texas Fossil
You call THAT an air rifle? Here's an air rifle:


45 posted on 11/22/2011 7:17:28 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Wings-n-Wind

Actually, we’re pretty good on the self-defense issue here. DA’s had better have a solid case, or they wind up paying.

Based on my admittedly somewhat limited training (40-hour Use of Lethal Force course), I’d venture that given the apparently imminent threat of (at least) grievous bodily harm and disparity of force (among other factors), the kid was righteous - given the limited information presented.


46 posted on 11/22/2011 7:21:24 PM PST by castlebrew (Gun control means hitting where you're aiming!)
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To: yarddog

Ah, I remember using daisy pellet rifles during my days in JROTC. It could even punch through skin, and could be lethal enough if it could penetrate slightly into the neck. There are also elctric automatic air guns that are powerful, painful even not lethal. BB guns these days are much more powerful than toy guns we have seen in the past.


47 posted on 11/22/2011 7:26:37 PM PST by Wiz
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To: Texas Fossil

Are you playing dumb with me?


48 posted on 11/22/2011 7:29:27 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Good shootin to put 4 in the face of a moving target.


49 posted on 11/22/2011 7:32:53 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Texas Fossil
LOL, why the missing weight of projectile in grains for the pneumatic rifle?

The nitrogen gas for rifle is contained in a closed cylinder not unlike the ones used to hold hood of car up and works on the same principle.

50 posted on 11/22/2011 7:33:51 PM PST by Sea Parrot (%)
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