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Ron Paul is for real in Iowa. Seriously.
The Washington Post ^ | November 17, 2011 | Chris Cillizza

Posted on 11/17/2011 2:26:31 PM PST by Kurt Evans

Texas Rep. Ron Paul, long dismissed by the GOP establishment as a fringe candidate, has broadened his electoral appeal and emerged as a major player in the Jan. 3 Iowa caucuses, according to several recent polls and conversations with a handful of longtime Hawkeye political operatives...

In a Bloomberg News survey — conducted by renowned Iowa-based pollster Ann Selzer — Paul was in a four-way statistical tie for first along with businessman Herman Cain, former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich...

And, in a new Iowa State/Gazette/KCRG survey, Paul took 20 percent — behind only Cain at 25 percent...

Paul is using the relatively uncluttered airwaves to tell a story of himself as a consistent champion of fiscal responsibility in a field of candidates that have not always hewed so closely to that mantra.

One ad attacks the inconsistencies of Cain, Romney and Perry on fiscal matters — TARP, economic stimulus — before cutting to Paul; “I’ve been talking about these problems for a long long time...now we’re bankrupt and we have to decide which way we’re going to go,” he says.

And, it’s not just Paul’s television ads that have blanketed the state. Sixty seven percent of those tested in the Bloomberg poll said they had been contacted by the Paul campaign via email, direct mail, telephone or someone coming directly to their door over the last year — the highest percentage for any candidate...

“We have a strong ground game in the state that is reaching out at a faster pace than any other campaign,” argued Trygve Olson, a Paul adviser...

“We are picking up support among social conservatives in Iowa -- particularly ones who believe our country’s fiscal situation is in serious peril,” noted Olson...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 2012; 50mmisasackofshit; 50mmisgay; cain; darkwing104isapos; darkwing104isgay; doublezot; elections; gop; hermancain; ia2012; iowa; larouchies; mittromney; paul; paulbotzot; perry; rickperry; romney; ronpaul; ronpaul2012; spammonkeys; stimulus; tarp; zot
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To: Steve Van Doorn; oneamericanvoice
Yes absolutely. No doubt about it. I will even help Obama win.

We certainly are on the same page against the Romneybots!

151 posted on 11/18/2011 3:33:15 PM PST by Eaker (Nothing even remotely praising Romney should be posted because one should stick to the truth.)
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To: John D
"While Romney is not my pick, at least he does not hate America nor does he want to see America be attacked again."

Socialist leaders love war the followers of socialism claim to hate war but carry a chip on their shoulder

152 posted on 11/18/2011 3:33:24 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Eaker

I don’t like bots, Romney or Paul. But, unfortunately, we aren’t on the same page as defeating Obama.

Take care.


153 posted on 11/18/2011 4:54:26 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: Eaker

So you would rather “teach America a lesson” by further destroying her. No way. That’s not the plan of someone who loves this great country. You hate Romney, more than Obama. Guess you can’t see what is wrong.

Oh, and by-the-way, I don’t just think. I critically think about this.

Best Wishes


154 posted on 11/18/2011 4:59:41 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: oneamericanvoice
Well, if you libtard rinos would quit talking up Romney he might not make it onto the ticket.

Tell the TRUTH about the gun grabbing baby killer and you should be fine.

You are apparently too shallow to see that Romney and Obama are brothers with a different father. Romney is a Mormon and Odinga is a Muslim. That is the only difference.

And yes, I will shove Obama up your rino ass if you keep supporting Romney.

ROMNEY CANNOT BEAT OBAMA!!!

You are the Obama supporter by supporting Mittens!

155 posted on 11/18/2011 5:29:32 PM PST by Eaker (Nothing even remotely praising Romney should be posted because one should stick to the truth.)
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To: oneamericanvoice
So you would rather “teach America a lesson” by further destroying her.

No, I want to let you surrender monkeys know that we don't have to listen to the MSM and support the originator of Obama Care via Romney Care and that we don't support the fag agenda like Romney.

FUMR!

156 posted on 11/18/2011 5:39:18 PM PST by Eaker (Nothing even remotely praising Romney should be posted because one should stick to the truth.)
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To: John D
While Romney is not my pick, at least he does not hate America nor does he want to see America be attacked again.

Oh, give it a break. You'll be the biggest Romney whore on this site, guaranteed.

157 posted on 11/18/2011 6:01:00 PM PST by jmc813
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To: jmc813
Oh, give it a break. You'll be the biggest Romney whore on this site, guaranteed.

Oh come on. The way you stalk me on this site you have to know I am a Cain supporter, and if not Cain I would settle for Newt. After that I will settle for whoever wins the Republican primary, EXCEPT the surrender monkey. He hates America more than Obama.
158 posted on 11/19/2011 4:56:40 AM PST by John D
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To: John D

Yeah ok. Keep buying not that nonsense. Let me ask you a question, if Obama declares war on Iran or Syria, are you willing to join and die for an Obama war?

Me, I am not.


159 posted on 11/19/2011 5:01:09 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: rideharddiefast
Appeasement Paul and the paulbots think freedom is free. It is not.

Good point. It is too bad the Paulbots are not programmed to accept common sense.
160 posted on 11/19/2011 5:01:09 AM PST by John D
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To: John D

freedom isn’t free? Do you want to go to war w Iran if Obama tells you so?


161 posted on 11/19/2011 5:02:53 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote
I have served in the past, like my father and my son. We all realize, like another poster just stated FREEDOM IS NOT FREE. I know there are cowards around who want all the benefits our great country has to offer, but are afraid to stand up and fight to keep them, like Cut and Run.
162 posted on 11/19/2011 5:06:43 AM PST by John D
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To: John D

cowards? So I have to prove my man hood if Obama orders me to war in lybia, Ira, Syria, Uganda etc?

Sorry, no dice. let congress declare war and we will talk.


163 posted on 11/19/2011 5:08:57 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Kurt Evans

Ron Paul is the closest politician philosophically to the Founding Fathers

http://dailybail.com/home/thomas-jefferson-lives-hes-ron-paul.html

His ridicule is a measure of how far the United States have deviated from their original objectives of facilitating business with one another and the world.

The proof of this lies in the national debt...and a Federal Government no longer under control of the States.

FWIW I have never been a “Paulbot” ...nor do I believe he intends to ever get near the Oval Office....but he does try to influence the discussion to where he believes it should go. Whenever he gets traction...he does the “crazy uncle” thing just enough....


164 posted on 11/19/2011 5:11:51 AM PST by mo
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To: GlockThe Vote
So I have to prove my man hood if Obama orders me to war in lybia,

Not if you are not willing to serve. There is no draft. My family and I are willing to do what we can to keep America safe and free. The surrender monkey and his herd of followers think appeasement is the answer. Bullies thrive on cowards, and terrorists are bullies, and Cut and Run is a coward.
165 posted on 11/19/2011 5:15:24 AM PST by John D
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To: okie01
There were many other factors in the run-up to WWII, the scrap issue was simply their excuse.

Similarly, there are many factors in play in the ME as well.

For anyone to pick one reason for the attacks is silly, and Ron Paul has not expressed such a definitive position.

Our military presence and bombing the crap out of them is probably not the real reason they attacked.

166 posted on 11/19/2011 5:38:19 AM PST by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
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To: John D

sorry, I am not willing to sacrifice other people’s family members for Obama wars. When congress declares a war, call me up and I will do my part.

Until then, I don’t buy into the wag the dog bs by Obama and our latest boogie man of the day bs.


167 posted on 11/19/2011 6:18:11 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: John D

Cut and run from what?


168 posted on 11/19/2011 6:20:24 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Designer
Our military presence and bombing the crap out of them is probably not the real reason they attacked.

Our "military presence" was a function of...what?

Fighting to re-gain Kuwait for its people...and defending Saudi Arabia (and Mecca) from a pending Iraqi invasion. Was it not?

Our "bombing the crap out of them" traced to...what?

Our UN assigned role to protect the Kurds and the Shi'ites from attack and slaughter by Saddam Hussein.

If the Islamists were offended by these worthy roles, that's their problem. And Ron Paul's. Not ours.

There were many other factors in the run-up to WWII, the scrap issue was simply their excuse.

Agreed. An excuse...not a reason. Just like the two excuses you (and Paul) cite above.

169 posted on 11/19/2011 1:22:50 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: thackney
>Is that why you posted the picture of Paul with Reagan? Because you agree with Paul's rejection of the works of Reagan?

Of course not. I posted it because I agree with Ron's support for Reagan's conservative ideals.
170 posted on 11/21/2011 8:33:47 PM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: Kurt Evans

I am voting for Ron Paul. The more I read, the more I research, the more I look in to issues RP is the only choice for me in the primary.


171 posted on 11/21/2011 8:37:27 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Darksheare
>Oh, you mean teh same RonPaul who associates with Alex Jones, and the founder of Stormfront, ,the same RonPaul who says that Reagan was a failure? The same RonPaul whose minions still try to steal some of Reagan’s legitimacy by posting pictures of RonPaul with the person he said was a failure? The Same RonPaul who apparently supports OCCUPY WALLSTREET and the leftists running it?

Um, no. You seem to be talking about a different Ron Paul.
172 posted on 11/21/2011 8:45:35 PM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: lormand
>At that time, Presidents were not dictators but shared power with the Legistlative branch. Guess who owned the House and Senate in Reagan's second term genius?

"It was tragic to listen to Ronald Reagan on the 1986 campaign trail bragging about his high spending on farm subsidies, welfare, warfare, etc., in his futile effort to hold on to control of the Senate."
--Ron Paul, 1987

Reagan seriously compromised his conservative ideals while Republicans still constituted a Senate majority.
173 posted on 11/21/2011 9:05:23 PM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: GlockThe Vote
>I am voting for Ron Paul. The more I read, the more I research, the more I look in to issues RP is the only choice for me in the primary.

I'm leaning Ron's way too, but keep an open mind. :)
174 posted on 11/21/2011 9:13:09 PM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: Kurt Evans

The same Ron Paul who voted to allow homosexuals to serve openly in the military and said that heterosexuals cause more problems than homosexuals?
YThe same Ron Paul who said we must be friends with Iran?
That Ron Paul?


175 posted on 11/22/2011 5:42:27 AM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Eaker

It is too bad that you don’t seem able to discuss things in a mature manner. My rules are that I let people know that if they wish to engage in civil discusion, then fine. However, if they don’t and wish to be nasty, then they will get as good as they give.

I am far from being a “surrender monkey”. I don’t listen to the MSM, nor is Romney my choice. But I know that Paul will not garner the nomination. Paul has some good ideas, but throws them down the drain when he heads for the cliff on the Left. His foreign policy, if you can call it that, would be disasterous. He thinks we should employ mercenaries, and privateers. There are other things that just won’t fly.

As for your assertion of the “fag agenda”, I would like to know what you think that is. BTW, good arguments are lost when resorting to using name calling, and derogeratory references. I disagree with the teaching of Gay studies in schools, especially pre-school and kindergarden. I don’t like when Gays push their agenda on businesses, etc. Is this what you are referring to?

I’m not up on all the abbreviations. I want to see if your closing comment “FUMR” means fk u mitt romney. If it was meant to offend. You lose.


176 posted on 11/22/2011 4:34:19 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: Eaker
Not a libtard rhino. Not shallow. And definitely posses manners and a better grasp of the English language. Since you obviously can not read, I DO NOT SUPPORT ROMNEY!! As for shoving anything up my ass, here's too you, trollboy! UP YOURS!!
177 posted on 11/22/2011 4:44:08 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: oneamericanvoice
I DO NOT SUPPORT ROMNEY!!

WELL THEN QUIT SUPPORTING ROMNEY!

Your manners and grasp of the English language is not impressive either.

178 posted on 11/22/2011 5:24:33 PM PST by Eaker (Nothing even remotely praising Romney should be posted because one should stick to the truth.)
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To: Eaker

Sod off Swampie. I’m way out of your league. You are pretty dense, so I’ll go slow. I...never...supported...Romney.

Now go back to the hole.

End of transmission.


179 posted on 11/22/2011 7:10:16 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: oneamericanvoice

Romney sucks so bad even his supporters won’t admit they support him!

LOL!


180 posted on 11/22/2011 8:00:39 PM PST by Eaker (Nothing even remotely praising Romney should be posted because one should stick to the truth.)
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To: Darksheare
>The same Ron Paul who voted to allow homosexuals to serve openly in the military and said that heterosexuals cause more problems than homosexuals? YThe same Ron Paul who said we must be friends with Iran? That Ron Paul?

You're getting closer, but Ron didn't say we "must" be friends with Iran.
181 posted on 11/23/2011 12:14:42 PM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: Kurt Evans

Oh?
He didn’t say we had to be friends with Iran?
Are you going to flat out claim he never said it?

And do you support homosexuals?
Ron Paul does.


182 posted on 11/23/2011 4:05:04 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Darksheare
>Oh? He didn’t say we had to be friends with Iran? Are you going to flat out claim he never said it?

Yes I am. Ron never said we "had to" be friends with Iran.

>And do you support homosexuals?

Under some circumstances, yes.
183 posted on 11/23/2011 9:21:29 PM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: Kurt Evans; Darksheare; little jeremiah

Not on FR. Homosexuality, nor ANY deviancy, is NOT supported. You AND R Paul may want to rethink that.


184 posted on 11/25/2011 8:42:57 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Not on FR. Homosexuality, nor ANY deviancy, is NOT supported. You AND R Paul may want to rethink that.

I said I support homosexuals under some circumstances. I didn't say I support homosexuality.
185 posted on 11/25/2011 10:54:36 AM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: Kurt Evans; Darksheare; little jeremiah

FR doesn’t support deviants under any circumstance. Homosexuality is a mental illness.


186 posted on 11/25/2011 11:24:06 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: DJ MacWoW
FR doesn’t support deviants under any circumstance.

Trolling is deviant.
187 posted on 11/25/2011 11:58:15 AM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: Kurt Evans; Darksheare; little jeremiah

Then you shouldn’t do it.


188 posted on 11/25/2011 12:00:00 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Trolls aren’t getting banned any more???


189 posted on 11/25/2011 8:55:12 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Kurt Evans; DJ MacWoW

What do you mean that you “support homosexuals”? That is a very ambiguous and muddy statement.


190 posted on 11/25/2011 9:13:50 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah
What do you mean that you “support homosexuals”? That is a very ambiguous and muddy statement.

I was answering an ambiguous question, but I'll give you an example: I don't believe homosexuals accused of murder should be executed without trial.
191 posted on 11/25/2011 9:24:24 PM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: Kurt Evans

Since you are (in your own mind) exceedling clever - more than anyone else on this thread, surely - do you agree with RonPaul that homosexuals are fine and dandy in the military?


192 posted on 11/25/2011 9:31:31 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah
Since you are (in your own mind) exceedling clever - more than anyone else on this thread, surely - do you agree with RonPaul that homosexuals are fine and dandy in the military?

I don't believe I'm more clever than anyone else posting in this thread. I do agree with Ron that disruptive personal behavior "should be subject to military discipline regardless of whether the individual is heterosexual or homosexual," and "to discharge an otherwise well-trained, professional, and highly skilled member of the military for these reasons is unfortunate and makes no financial sense."
193 posted on 11/25/2011 9:51:53 PM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: Kurt Evans

So do you think that homosexuals should be allowed in the miliary or not? Pretty simple - answer “yes” or “no”. RonPaul thinks that they should be allowed in. I would hope you have as much guts as your idol, and at least reveal your actual POV.


194 posted on 11/25/2011 10:03:44 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah; Kurt Evans

He’s a libertarian and isn’t going to admit the truth. As we know libertarians, have little in common with conservatives. He’s also a Ron Paul booster.


195 posted on 11/26/2011 7:54:10 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Kurt Evans

Saying you support homosexuals but not homosexuality is like saying you support air but not breathing.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2644629/posts

Do you support homosexuals in the military or not?
Ron Paul does.
Ron Paul also supports the leftist backed Occupy Wallstreet.

Homosexuals do not need to be anywhere they can have easy access to prospective victims.
Look at Jerry Sandusky, he even started a charity which gave him easy acces to victims, one of which it was stated that he met through that charity.
If only they’d allow coaches to marry.. /sarc


196 posted on 11/26/2011 8:12:35 AM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Kurt Evans

zot


197 posted on 11/26/2011 8:25:35 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

>>>zot

You need to program a “like” function. This zot deserves a “like”.


198 posted on 11/26/2011 8:27:51 AM PST by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: Jim Noble

It’s always either too soon or too late for RonPaul.


199 posted on 11/26/2011 1:44:19 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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