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GE Filed 57,000-Page Tax Return, Paid No Taxes on $14 Billion in Profits
weekly standard ^ | 11/17/11 | JOHN MCORMACK

Posted on 11/17/2011 12:28:10 PM PST by OPS4

General Electric, one of the largest corporations in America, filed a whopping 57,000-page federal tax return earlier this year but didn't pay taxes on $14 billion in profits. The return, which was filed electronically, would have been 19 feet high if printed out and stacked.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 57000; 999; democrats; ge; irs; nopay; obama; obamacampaign; obamadonors; tax; taxes
Obama's Friends getting the benefits of backing him once again. Our taxpayer dollars keep on disappearing.
1 posted on 11/17/2011 12:28:14 PM PST by OPS4
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To: OPS4

How many billions in taxpayers subsidies and handouts did they get?


2 posted on 11/17/2011 12:29:08 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: GeronL

The fact that it took 57,000 pages for the return points out the stupidity of our current tax laws. My return runs about 40 pages, and it is not all that complicated. Should be able to do it on two pages max, but nooooooooo.


3 posted on 11/17/2011 12:32:04 PM PST by rstrahan
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To: OPS4

Simple answer for this:

9-9-9.


4 posted on 11/17/2011 12:32:14 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: GeronL

My first thought also.

Notice 57,000 pages. You KNOW it’s got to be a subsidy minefield.


5 posted on 11/17/2011 12:35:07 PM PST by marty60
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To: Responsibility2nd
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6 posted on 11/17/2011 12:36:41 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: OPS4
It's not just tax dollars that are disappearing. 57,000 pages means that quite a few man-hours went into collecting the data, analyzing the tax effect, and putting the right bits in the right place. Even with electronic filing, the human effort would be large.

That means added overhead to GE's operations, which means that GE customers paid "their share" for this corporate version of War and Peace.

7 posted on 11/17/2011 12:38:58 PM PST by asinclair (Talk is cheap, actions are priceless)
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To: OPS4
If you read the article:

Nine billion dollars of GE's profits came overseas, outside the jurisdiction of U.S. tax law.

GE isn't repatriating those profits, because the US corporate tax rates are the highest in the western world. Instead, they are leaving that money offshore, and investing it their operations outside the US. There's definitely something wrong here, and it's not with GE.

GE wasn't taxed on $5 billion in U.S. profits because it utilized numerous deductions and tax credits, including tax breaks for investments in low-income housing, green energy, research and development, as well as depreciation of property.

In other words, they took advantage of all the different provisions that are available to all corporations. Some of those were created by previous Congresses and administration, and some were created recently under this administration.

Do you claim deductions on your tax return for mortgage interest, charitable contributions, and state/local taxes. If so, how is what you are doing any different than what GE did?

8 posted on 11/17/2011 12:39:10 PM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: OPS4
57,000-page federal tax return ... [no] taxes on $14 billion in profits ... would have been 19 feet high if printed out and stacked

Prepared by hundreds of GE employees at a cost of $100's of millions ... every single line audited by IRS over the next ten or so years, which will cost $100's of millions more.

9 posted on 11/17/2011 12:42:07 PM PST by Zakeet (If Obama had half a brain, his butt would be lopsided)
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To: rstrahan

Minimum cost $1,000 per page (Lawyers, Accountants)!


10 posted on 11/17/2011 12:45:25 PM PST by BillM (.)
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To: asinclair

I would guess there’s no such thing as a 57,000 sheet tax return so what is this really about?


11 posted on 11/17/2011 1:13:06 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: justlurking
In other words, they took advantage of all the different provisions that are available to all corporations. Some of those were created by previous Congresses and administration, and some were created recently under this administration.

Each of those provisions are the result of a lobbying effort by large corporations such as GE. They write a tax provision they like, garner support among like situated businesses, pool their resources to hire a lobbying consultant, which is packaged by appeal to some liberal pabulum and get their provision stuck into one page of a 5,000 page bill.

How does a small business even learn that such provisions are even on the books? By expending time and effort, which detracts from their core pursuit. The result is a competitive edge to larger business - all acheived through legal means.

Thus my tagline.

12 posted on 11/17/2011 1:20:30 PM PST by frithguild (Restricting access to capital - Liberalism: The sharpest tool of big business, banks, etc.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
“Simple answer for this: 9-9-9.”

You can bet huge corporations like GE, will spend tens of millions to stop 9-9-9, or any similar tax plan.

13 posted on 11/17/2011 1:20:50 PM PST by PoloSec ( Believe how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again for our justification)
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To: OPS4

Payroll, sales taxes, property taxes, and other taxes that they surely must have paid, Shirley, are no taxes? Having to hire lawyers, accountants and others to prepare the tax returns and, especially, handle regulations, is no tax on a company?


14 posted on 11/17/2011 1:27:56 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: marty60

I wonder who signed on the first page to say that the other 56,999 pages are correct...:^)


17 posted on 11/17/2011 2:06:30 PM PST by az_gila
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To: justlurking

Isn’t that just it, though? GE finds it profitable -*PROFITABLE*- to create a 57,000 page tax return rather than finding profit by making stuff. Business does not corrupt politics. The trust-busting politicians of 100 years ago set out to do good by regulating business, and those politicians have done very well, indeed, ever since. Politics corrupts business.

The NappyOne


18 posted on 11/17/2011 2:15:21 PM PST by NappyOne
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To: justlurking
and how much of it went to stockholders that will be taxed on dividends and capital gains???
19 posted on 11/17/2011 2:58:30 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode
and how much of it went to stockholders that will be taxed on dividends and capital gains???

If their tax year is January-December, and this was for tax year 2010, GE stock paid 46 cents/share. There are currently 10.56 billion shares outstanding, so that's about $4,857,600,000 paid in dividends.

During that period, GE opened at $14.66, and closed at $17.84/share. So, there was certainly a potential for capital gain, but sales during that period could have been for shares purchased at any time. Total volume for calendar year 2010 was about 905 million shares, so it's probably safe to presume that some of those were profitable. :-)

20 posted on 11/17/2011 3:14:13 PM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: OPS4
Maybe I'm missing something here. But IF GE actually had $14 Billion in profit, wouldn't that be passed on to the owners of GE, the shareholders. If dividends are paid, then the owners/shareholders would then pay capital gains tax.

Unless of course the owners shelter that gain somehow, like Warren OCBuffet has all these years.

Sounds pretty much like business as usual for any company, no matter what side the political spectrum they might lean.

21 posted on 11/17/2011 5:32:31 PM PST by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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22 posted on 11/17/2011 5:33:42 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: mountn man

At times companies can deduct losses, costs, depreciation and also get breaks for investing in green this or that.
Plus if they reinvest back in themselves that is deductible.

Also, maybe they can deduct past losses over time and that also could have allowed no taxes this year.


23 posted on 11/17/2011 5:38:26 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: justlurking


24 posted on 11/17/2011 5:40:40 PM PST by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; one box left.)
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To: A CA Guy
In other words, they did what every other major corporation does, and what every normal person does. They took advantage of the tax laws to benefit themselves as much as possible.

Imagine somebody being accused of impropriaty for claiming their deserved dependent deductions on the 1040 forms.

If its legal and other companies live by the same rules, the only crime here is that the media has decided to make it a crime.

Just think, if I would have bought 100 shares of GE in the last year, I could have shared in that profit too.

Maybe I'll buy 100 shares this year.
NAAAAHHHHH!!!!! Its easier just to whine and complain about those who do.

25 posted on 11/17/2011 5:59:05 PM PST by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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