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Survivors of sexual abuse appalled by Penn State unrest
CNN ^ | 11 Nov 2011 | Madison Park

Posted on 11/11/2011 6:47:52 PM PST by Hoodat

How does a survivor of sexual abuse respond to students rioting at Penn State?

"You're not getting it. You just don't get it," said Dave Lorenz who was abused by a priest as a teen.

"It's just stupid youthfulness."

Earlier this week, legendary head football coach Joe Paterno was removed in the midst of a scandal involving sexual abuse allegations against a former defensive coordinator, Jerry Sandusky.

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Watching footage of Penn State students rioting in the streets Wednesday night, Lorenzo shuddered, then hung his head.

What bothered Lorenz is that students "rallied around (Paterno's) house, cheering him up."

"The kids up there just don't understand what this does," he said.

"Stop thinking of the adult and start thinking of what happens to a child that goes through this. You love the adult, you may not know the kid. Start thinking of the kid and the horror they go through, because it's hell."

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Kayla Garriott, a 22-year-old college student who was sexually abused as a child, said the open support for Paterno was disrespectful to survivors.

"That's the first thing people look at -- that their football team is without their head coach that's been there so many years. Nobody looks at the eight children."

The rioters are "never going to be in those children's shoes. It's not about football. It's about eight children who are never going to get back their lives back. They're going to live with this the rest of their lives. They might not get over that."

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: childabuse; clintonlegacy; jerrysandusky; joepaterno; paterno; pennstate; pennsylvania; sandusky
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I found it very sobering to hear past victims of sexual abuse remind us of the insensitivity of those rallying in support of Joe Paterno.
1 posted on 11/11/2011 6:47:54 PM PST by Hoodat
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To: Hoodat

Anyone who witnesses something like this and does not immediately try to stop it is a worthless coward. You don’t just watch it go on and mention it to the boss or call the cops later, you take action!


2 posted on 11/11/2011 6:53:37 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Hoodat
What get me is that Paterno was not the abuser. The abuser is known, and he gets a pass, while Paterno gets the ax.

I agree that the kids who were abused are getting short shrift here - but that is a problem that rests with those who fired Paterno and let the guilty off the hook.

There's more than one thing wrong here, and it rests squarely in the lap of the police and college board that fired Paterno.

3 posted on 11/11/2011 6:55:15 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.

I agree. I am also amazed at new found extralegal morality that has been found among those sportswritters like John Feinstien and Mike Wilbaun. These people thought it was okay to give the likes of Ray Lewis a pass for all of these years.


4 posted on 11/11/2011 6:59:07 PM PST by Perdogg
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

“Anyone who witnesses something like this and does not immediately try to stop it is a worthless coward. You don’t just watch it go on and mention it to the boss or call the cops later, you take action!”

As I posted earlier tonight:

I’m confused by all of this

The man who saw the child being raped should have beaten the crap out of the rapist and rescued the child.

When Paterno found out he should have informed the police and then gone to the hospital and beaten the crap out of the rapist.

As soon as the he got out of the hospital, the child’s male family members should have beaten the crap out of the rapist.

When no one else wanted to beat the crap out of the rapist, he should have been convicted and imprisoned where daily other prisoners would beat the crap out of him.

My view of the reactions to this disgusting crime is a severe lack of testosterone


5 posted on 11/11/2011 7:00:09 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: Ron C.

Paterno is a grown man and was in a position of responsibility. He knew something was wrong and didn’t follow through. Although, technically he didn’t have the legal responsibility to follow up on it, he did have the moral responsibility to do so. Maybe he should find a job that entails no moral responsibilities ... maybe in the Food Stamp President’s administration.


6 posted on 11/11/2011 7:00:43 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: Perdogg

Ray who? :-)


7 posted on 11/11/2011 7:01:47 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: Ron C.

Check out the two links at bottom of this article:

http://elle-kynzer.wrytestuff.com/swa789035-Sandusky-Had-More-Witnesses-To-His-Criminal-Acts-Against-Children-Over-The.htm


8 posted on 11/11/2011 7:02:11 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
you take action!

AMEN!

9 posted on 11/11/2011 7:05:49 PM PST by doc1019 (If Romney is our choice, I refuse to vote.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Anyone who witnesses something like this and does not immediately try to stop it is a worthless coward.

Mayhaps. I don't see being a coward in the criminal code and that seems to be what all of the Monday Morning Pederast QBs seem to be calling for.

There is one guilty person here. One who committed a real crime. Hang him by his tiny penis.

Stop deflecting.

10 posted on 11/11/2011 7:14:01 PM PST by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: Ron C.
What get me is that Paterno was not the abuser. The abuser is known, and he gets a pass, while Paterno gets the ax.

This is something that bothers me also. People keep saying Paterno ran the entire school but actually folks should google Graham Spanier, the President of PSU. He is currently on administrative leave but it was reported today he is still teaching classes in the Human Development Department. If you read the papers and books he has authored it will disgust you. This guy is an expert on Advanced Homosexual Studies.

An Obama acquaintance, Spanier has as many important friends as Paterno, maybe more because Paterno has not been out rubbing elbows for a decade or two. Plus Spanier must be a hero to everyone in the homosexual community since he has been working to advance their agenda since the 1970s.

Bottom line, the people blaming love of football are falling for the mischaracterization from the MSM. This is not bowing down to football; this is bowing down to the Lavender Mafia. This is political correctness to the point where everywhere you turn you find another Arne Duncan supporter.

11 posted on 11/11/2011 7:15:09 PM PST by Zevonismymuse
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To: Hoodat

Hell..Watch Espn...they so scared to even call it a riot..trying to be pc and hip at same time


12 posted on 11/11/2011 7:19:41 PM PST by skaterboy (Hate=Love....Love=Hate)
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To: Ron C.

he gets a pass? you do know he doing 40 counts dont ya?


13 posted on 11/11/2011 7:20:50 PM PST by skaterboy (Hate=Love....Love=Hate)
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To: RetiredTexasVet
Paterno is a grown man and was in a position of responsibility. He knew something was wrong and didn’t follow through.

This isn't clear to me. He certainly reported it to others, and I've seen it written that he "cooperated with the investigation", whatever year of the many years this dragged on as an open secret that may have been. In fact, nothing about this is clear to me, except that I see the familiar pattern of some sort of script being issued from some unknown high place, and everybody following it. My feeling is that the students have a clearer idea of what's going on than all these moral hens clucking at them.

14 posted on 11/11/2011 7:20:50 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: Hoodat
students rioting at Penn State

Perhaps the students have been participating in orgies after school since they were ten - the new normal:

The lost children of rockdale county
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/georgia/etc/press.html

15 posted on 11/11/2011 7:26:55 PM PST by donna (This is what happens when America is no longer a Christian nation.)
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To: Prokopton

I just asked my husband what he would have done if he had witnessed the rape of a child in that shower room. He said the same thing, he would have beaten the crap out of Sandusky, that he wouldn’t have gotten up.


16 posted on 11/11/2011 7:30:09 PM PST by Eva
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To: skaterboy

Two days ago you heard the name “Paterno” hundreds of times. You were lucky if you heard the name “Sandusky” at all. Paterno was the third party who never should have been involved, but still contacted his superior as well as the police commissioner and put them in touch with the witness. Yet HE is the one who has taken ALL the blame so far. I have heard dozens of people talking about the “Paterno sex scandal” when the only (even remotely) legitimate complaint against him is that he either went to too high a level of police or he didn’t follow up. I don’t buy either of those.

Sandusky is the alleged monster. You don’t hear his name. This is no different than talking about a “Wisconsin Murder Scandal” mentioning the cops that let Dahmer go without mentioning his name. For f***’s sake, this is all about the wrong people.


17 posted on 11/11/2011 7:31:06 PM PST by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: flintsilver7

Come on though, Paterno was probably the most famous college football coach, and he had just become the winningest coach of all time. He IS Penn State, for all intents and purposes.


18 posted on 11/11/2011 7:32:13 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: RetiredTexasVet
Paterno is a grown man and was in a position of responsibility. He knew something was wrong and didn’t follow through.

A little something picked up from another FReeper.

...a statement from Joe Paterno, circa 1985 that now drips with irony:

When asked about retirement, Joe Paterno once said that he would not, because it would leave college football in the hands of “the Jackie Sherrills and the Barry Switzers”


19 posted on 11/11/2011 7:37:16 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: dfwgator

I keep hearing this. Paterno was (and is) a very reserved and private man. He lives in a modest house. I personally never liked him, though his wife is one of the nicest people you’ll ever meet. Paterno has never been known to exercise his influence or his power, and I don’t believe that police give more weight to hearsay reports if they come from a famous coach.

I understand the argument that Paterno has some sort of “power” over State College, but having lived there for six years I never saw or felt that. He may be revered as a public figure, but he’s just a normal guy in the offseason.

I can tell you also that Paterno ISN’T Penn State. They are the corrupt Board of Trustees (who I called the Penn State Politburo). They are people like Terrell Jones and Graham Spanier. They are a bastion of corrupt and politically correct liberalism. The school would be a hell of a lot better off if it were just Paterno.

The problem with this (and this scandal has drawn in far too many conservatives) is that it sacrifices a good man so the corrupt liberal establishment can continue.


20 posted on 11/11/2011 7:38:27 PM PST by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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