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Karl Rove swats Herman Cain for accusing Rick Perry (Romney stooge Rove continues his attacks...)
Politico ^ | 11/4/11 | ALEXANDER BURNS

Posted on 11/04/2011 4:45:38 AM PDT by jimbo123

Karl Rove said Friday that Herman Cain had no evidence to accuse the Rick Perry campaign of driving negative stories against him, arguing that Cain did "exactly what [he is] accusing the media of doing."

Rove said in an appearance on "Fox and Friends" that the "best way" for Cain to survive this week is to get the National Restaurant Association to release new information about the sexual harassment complaints lodged against him in the 1990s.

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KEYWORDS: backstabberrove; herbcain; mittromney; romneycare; rove4backstabbermitt; rove4romney; roviantricks; tokyorove
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1 posted on 11/04/2011 4:45:40 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Dear Rove, you took a candidiate (GWB) who should have won easy and barely squeaked him across the finish line both times. Shut the heck up.


2 posted on 11/04/2011 4:48:31 AM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: jimbo123

Was he on this morning? I missed it. I was hoping Fox had finally realized he is becoming a liability.


3 posted on 11/04/2011 4:49:50 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: jimbo123

Establishment Operatives need not apply.........


4 posted on 11/04/2011 4:50:08 AM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: jimbo123

Gee, its Politicrap again!

How convenient of Rove to peddle his typical RINO bilge scrapings. Where in the hell was he when it came to defending the Bush administration from baseless attacks allowing them to fester into conventional wisdom?


5 posted on 11/04/2011 4:50:15 AM PDT by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: jimbo123

Rove represents what is wrong the with GOP.

Bush did America no favor foisting that selfish dweeb upon the political scene.

He cost Republicans a senate seat last election, and is on the wrong side of every issue, in every way.

Rove is an awful, self-absorbed skank.


6 posted on 11/04/2011 4:50:33 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America First)
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To: jimbo123

Why should Cain listen to Rove when Rove did not see Cain as a serious candidate?

‘nuff said


7 posted on 11/04/2011 4:51:24 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Cain for President - Because I like the content of his character)
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To: jimbo123
Best thing Cain could do is listen to Rove’s advice and then do exactly opposite. Rove has been wrong on everything he has said or predicted regarding Cain.
8 posted on 11/04/2011 4:51:24 AM PDT by 07Jack
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To: jimbo123

Could someone please explain to me Fox News’ and Sean Hannity’s obsession with providing Tokyo Rove with a platform to dispense his bile on almost a daily basis?


9 posted on 11/04/2011 4:52:34 AM PDT by JohnG45
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To: jimbo123

Did F&F have the cojones to ask Rove if he or his minions had anything to do with this leak? I want that asked of him on the air....


10 posted on 11/04/2011 4:54:22 AM PDT by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: jimbo123

I know its from the Romney camp, and most likely from Obama himself.

Obama absolutely wants Romney elected, but he made a tactical mistake by removing Sarah Palin through direct intimidation, now she is free to strike from any angle or elevation.

The secret Romney/Obama alliance isn’t finished with Cain yet, what just happened is just an appetizer.

They know that gullible America is just another crack addict when it comes to scandals, they will create another soon.

Repetition is the key, does not have to be truthful, accurate or substantiated, if its bombarding the MSM the people will swallow it eventually.

It worked with Sarah Palin.


11 posted on 11/04/2011 4:54:27 AM PDT by Eye of Unk
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To: Puddleglum

Rove, you’re gonna push me to m y second Cain donation in three days.

This could get into some serious money.


12 posted on 11/04/2011 4:54:35 AM PDT by Humble Servant
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Karl Rove is a self-absorbed inside the beltway Washington cocktail elitist who gives every indication when he speaks that we’re all a bunch of idiots who can find our collective center of gravity from a hole in the ground. The way he denigrates Sarah Palin and Herman Cain should be enough of an example of his character and what Karl Rove thinks of the “little” people.


13 posted on 11/04/2011 4:55:14 AM PDT by auto power
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To: 07Jack

I think Rove is right...he should have not named Perry, he should have named ROVE as the probable culprit or instigator of this BS.


14 posted on 11/04/2011 4:56:08 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
If we remember back to 2004, Rove was a brilliant genius around here, a “Magnificent Bastard!”, etc, he was a hero, and then some.

Now he has become a filthy, unworthy Leper in a few months. Which does no good for getting a candidate elected who can beat Obama. All of this in fighting is not at all good. It is a symptom of a much larger disease that will destroy the conservative movement, but will also split our previous ideologically bonded base.

You probably don't see it, but Obama is laughing at us while they prepare one of the best funded campaigns in history, against the GOP/Conservative heard of cats.

15 posted on 11/04/2011 5:00:08 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: jimbo123

Looking forward to laughing at Rove next week when Cain’s numbers continue to climb and not fall off as he expects.


16 posted on 11/04/2011 5:02:29 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Gov Jan Brewer has more balls than Rick Perry.)
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To: mazda77

It’s a Bill Clinton deal. I don’t think Rove wants to give him credit for it.


17 posted on 11/04/2011 5:02:57 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: jimbo123

18 posted on 11/04/2011 5:03:50 AM PDT by McBuff
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

RINOS like Rove and Romney are destroying the conservative movement. And the people who are exposing Rove and Romney’s duplicity are trying to save it.


19 posted on 11/04/2011 5:04:41 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Rove is right.


20 posted on 11/04/2011 5:07:20 AM PDT by Huck (TAX TEA NOW==SUPPORT 9-9-9!)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Rove has been unpopular here since he helped lead the GOP implosion starting in 2006 and again in 2008. His brand of lite conservatism damn near destroyed the party...until thankfully the voters regained control of the party in 2009 and 2010 and injecting a new generation of conservative solutions. Rove is the origin of compassionate conservate meme that at best got the party two squeaker wins....when the party is strongly conservative they win virtually every time,and with huge margins. Rove is a cancer inside the GOP.


21 posted on 11/04/2011 5:07:30 AM PDT by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: jimbo123
Since it's bound to come up by anti-Perry posters:

Disclosure reports show that neither Bob Perry [Perry Homes/home builder] nor his wife have donated to Rick Perry's presidential bid. Bob Perry has given money to other candidates but not to Rick Perry. The biggest recipient is Mitt Romney. Bob Perry and his wife gave a combined $5,000 to Romney's early this year and $500,000 to the super PAC Restore Our Future that supports Romney.

In 2008, they supported Romney's nomination with a $5,000 donation between them. According to disclosure reports Gov Tim Pawlenty received a combined $10,000 to his presidential campaign and another $60,000 to his political action committee from Bob Perry and his wife. Bob Perry is also the top donor to the Karl Rove-linked super PAC American Crossroads.

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Donors to Bush absent for Perry [9-1 support Romney] "Donors to Bush absent for PerryWASHINGTON — Fewer than one in 10 of the top fundraisers who helped George W. Bush shatter records for presidential campaign money in 2000 and 2004 have donated to Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s 2012 presidential campaign, a Houston Chronicle analysis of Federal Election Commission data has found.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney holds a wide lead over other GOP presidential hopefuls in donations received from the 939 “Pioneers” and “Rangers” who raised at least $100,000 each for the Bush presidential efforts.

Romney has received 148 donations totaling $351,250 from Bush’s top money people, compared with Perry’s 87 contributions worth $213,000 and former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty’s 47 donations for $102,867."......

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Kay Bailey Hutchison won’t endorse Rick Perry for president

ROVE-BUSH-HUTCHISON ran a 2010 GOP primary challenge against Gov. Rick Perry.

22 posted on 11/04/2011 5:07:33 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: jimbo123

The Rhino Rider is riding Perry...
Making a Rhino look like an Elephant is strange business..

If I wasnt so lazy I’d write a song about the Rino Rider..
Could use “Riders on the storm” as a base..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq7ntDdYQyk


23 posted on 11/04/2011 5:15:30 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: jimbo123

A few days ago, Juan Williams said on FOX News that Rove was the one who leaked the information about Herman Cain.


24 posted on 11/04/2011 5:19:44 AM PDT by JoeGar
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To: MestaMachine

Yep, Toxic Karl was on spewing his usual BS. FOX fans the flames like any other media outlet.


25 posted on 11/04/2011 5:19:44 AM PDT by dforest
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To: jimbo123

Karl Rove——bleeeech


26 posted on 11/04/2011 5:28:43 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: JohnG45
"Could someone please explain to me Fox News’ and Sean Hannity’s obsession with providing Tokyo Rove with a platform to dispense his bile on almost a daily basis?"

Hannity gave Cain lots of time on his radio show yesterday to clear up the questions.

Limbaugh devoted almost his entire radio show yesterday to the Cain stuff.

It's obvious to me that both Limbaugh AND Hannity support Herman Cain, although they say they haven't taken sides!

27 posted on 11/04/2011 5:32:32 AM PDT by PALIN SMITH (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Thank you for posting that. I was thinking the same thing these last few weeks, about how ROVE was the FR darling. You “Magnificent Bastard!”, was always the THEME.

Rove is very smart, maybe not to everyone's liking, but he is smart and in this matter he is CORRECT. Cain should not have accused the Perry camp without facts and proof. I believe it was a deliberate set up against Perry. Perry is Cains biggest obstacle. Cain has a problem of shooting from the hip with his cutsy statements.

This is not going to end well for Cain, if he keeps up the disclosure/nondisclosure, accusations, denials,retracted denials, etc. This is not the type Person I want to be President, we already have one of those.

Having said all this, I'm still open to be persuaded via what comes next. I don't need anything back from a Cainite, or Perryite, or Newtite. These are MY OPINIONS ONLY, take it or leave it.

28 posted on 11/04/2011 5:37:33 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: jimbo123

Rove you are a Buffoon,
Mr Cain, The best way to survive and have a little fun would be for you to immediately hire Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, and Juanita Broderick as your new SPECIAL ADVISORS on Sexual Harassment and refer all press questions regarding this subject to them. Watch the Media drop this instantly.


29 posted on 11/04/2011 5:39:11 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: MestaMachine

Everytime he speaks and disses Cain, the more I want to vote for Cain..


30 posted on 11/04/2011 5:45:22 AM PDT by scbison
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To: All
Brilliance from a new Huntsman ad on Romney The Pretzel Candidate

The most ironclad case against Mitt Romney Its damning.

31 posted on 11/04/2011 5:47:52 AM PDT by 506Lake (I'll say it again... no more compromise.)
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To: Humble Servant

I am already on the monthly plan for Cain, but I may throw him $9.99 extra...
I love Cain (is that too sexual) ha ha
Melissa


32 posted on 11/04/2011 5:54:22 AM PDT by mel (There are only 2 races decent and undecent people)
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To: jimbo123

The Country Club has spoken, did he bring his chalkboard?

Pray for America


33 posted on 11/04/2011 6:01:29 AM PDT by bray (Hope and Change is Dead and Gone)
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To: annieokie

I feel like Cain was our Obi-Wan, our only hope of stopping Romney, and he’s flaked on us. I don’t think he’s disciplined enough to beat Obama or to be an effective president. Such a drag.


34 posted on 11/04/2011 6:02:56 AM PDT by wodehousian
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To: jimbo123

Every time Rove opens his mouth he assures me that he’s every bit as bad as the Left said he was and that a clock that’s not working is right twice a day.


35 posted on 11/04/2011 6:07:54 AM PDT by Savage Beast (A backwoods southern lawyer is a safer trustee for your soul than a Washington politician.)
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To: wodehousian
AGREED.

Here is the problem for me now with Cain.

Deny, then "well there was a baseless accusation", then make ACCUSATIONS himself about Perry, then on and on and on.

I saw him the other day with reporters, and he didn't want to talk about it. Hollered at them, "What'd I say?", and "Excuuuuuussse Me" (attitude).

He is just not put together correctly for a President, and scary for a world leader. CEO, ok. Don't get me wrong, he is a very smart and intelligent man.

36 posted on 11/04/2011 6:11:43 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: jimbo123
Herman Cain

born December 13, 1945 in Memphis, TN (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Luther Cain Jr., born March 16, 1925 in TN, died March 29, 1982 in Atlanta, GA
Lenora Davis, born July 27, 1925 in GA, died August 20, 2005 in Atlanta, GA

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Herman Cain is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

”Herman

Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama ISN'T!

Click on the cane, (Go Cain.)

37 posted on 11/04/2011 6:12:12 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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I saw this interview and it was disgusting---and I've supported Rove on numerous occasions. This constant "Herman Cain mishandled it" is utter garbage. I've consulted with a lawyer to see exactly what the NRA can release that doesn't open them to new lawsuits and/or serve as an admission of guilt, but I'm betting it's not much.

Furthermore, THE NOTION THAT ANY "HANDLING" WILL MAKE THIS GO AWAY IS ABSURD. The left will never accept any proof, explanation, or reasons for NOT destroying our leading candidate, and if the Perry/Romney people haven't figured that out yet, they are dumber than I thought.

38 posted on 11/04/2011 6:13:04 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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Best way for the country to survive is for rove to step in front of a fast moving train.
39 posted on 11/04/2011 6:13:40 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: jimbo123

I didn’t like Rove when he was with Pres. Bush. Thought his advice was poor.
I really dislike him now. But that’s the way to get TV face time. Be a repub contrarian and the MSM beats down your door.


40 posted on 11/04/2011 6:14:05 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: annieokie; PSYCHO-FREEP

>> in this matter he is CORRECT <<

IBTZ?


41 posted on 11/04/2011 6:33:22 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: jimbo123
I think both the Cain and the Perry camp might want to take a close look at Chris Wilson and his connection to Rove.

Wilson, who rushed out to validate the smear job for the Junk Media based on nothing more then hearsay is a former employee of Rove. Wilson has a connection to the Perry camp.

This is turning into a twofer for Rove and GOP Establishment. They smear Cain and frame Perry all the while hoping this will help their candidate Romney.

42 posted on 11/04/2011 6:40:06 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: annieokie; wodehousian
I think both the Cain and the Perry camp might want to take a close look at Chris Wilson and his connection to Rove.

Wilson, who was the very 1st to rush out to validate the Cain smear job for the Junk Media based on nothing more then hearsay is a former employee of Rove. Wilson has a connection to the Perry camp.

This is turning into a twofer for Rove and GOP Establishment. They smear Cain and frame Perry all the while hoping this will help their candidate Romney.

43 posted on 11/04/2011 6:45:05 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
And just what is this supposed “genius” Rove done?

He won two presidential elections by a few thousand votes that he should of won in a landslide. He presided over the utterly disastrous GOP showings in 2006 and 2008 and tried his best to destroy the Tea party Conservatives canidates in 2010.

He was actively working for the Castle camp when he trashed talked Christine O'Donnell in 2010 yet never disclosed his ties to Castle.

Rove is the documented enemy of, not an an ally of, the Conservative movement. As long as he insights on making himself our enemy, we will treat him as one.

Rove has the option to shut up his slanderous sniping at his own side and instead focus his fire on the left. Rove refuses to do that. Instead he focuses all his energy and bile on knifing his own Conservative base in the back.

Don't blame the victims for objecting to the totally vile conduct of the Rove and the rest of the GOP Establishmentbots.

44 posted on 11/04/2011 6:50:35 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: JohnG45

Fox news is no longer a respite for Conservatives. Have you ever watched The Five with Beckel spewing his laughable lib talking points ad nauseum? The show is an absolute joke because of him.

Hannity is very loyal to his friends. He and Newt are thick so I imagine he is not a Cain supporter and therefore likes it that Rove is dissing him. But with Hannity, in the end, it’s all about his ratings and he’ll do anything to keep them.

I watch a little of F and Friends in the am, though Gretchen sometimes strays...then the first ten minutes of B’OR and Greta, who is a good interviewer, if I like her guests.


45 posted on 11/04/2011 6:52:52 AM PDT by Mountain Mary (I'll take a Godfather's pizza with the works!)
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To: MNJohnnie

Interesting insight, MNJ.


46 posted on 11/04/2011 6:55:05 AM PDT by Mountain Mary (I'll take a Godfather's pizza with the works!)
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To: jimbo123
So Karl, did you follow your own advice here when you were accused of being the leak-er about Valarie Palmer?

So Karl, how about you finally put these questions to bed by releasing all documents you have about these events?

But that right, Rove has one standard for himself an another for his political opposition.

The accusations have been made. Cain refuted them. Rather then continue these slimely attack by asking the innocent to prove his innocence, how about Rove and the rest of the Romneybot media start asking the accusers to prove the accusations?

47 posted on 11/04/2011 6:56:03 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: jimbo123
I don't believe the sexual harassment claims. I think it was a shakedown.

OTOH, whining about it and blaming Perry -- BASED ENTIRELY ON WILD SPECULATION -- has caused me to lose a lot of respect for Cain's character and judgement.

If it comes down to Cain v Newt, I'm going with Newt.

48 posted on 11/04/2011 6:57:39 AM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: Mountain Mary

Devil’s advocate here. If a smoking gun emerges in a few days and Cain is forced to abandon his campaign, who benefits most in terms of his organization and supporters? I can’t imagine that any amount of them will flock to Romney, but if Perry is viewed as the hatchet man many Cain people will hesitate before backing him. Could Newt become the default “anti Romney” candidate? Just asking.


49 posted on 11/04/2011 7:01:16 AM PDT by littleharbour
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To: jimbo123
Pathetic how Rove has become FR's own Emmanuel Goldstein. The all purpose scapegoat for the failings and inadequacies of certain candidates.


50 posted on 11/04/2011 7:04:39 AM PDT by tlb
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