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Unable To Produce More Cain Evidence, Politico's Allen Brags Of Big Number of 'Twitter Mentions'
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 11/01/2011 5:40:19 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

"This is the biggest single Twitter controversy of the campaign. 48,000 mentions!"

That was Mike Allen doing his best "look--a squirrel!" impression on today's Morning Joe. Pressed by Joe Scarborough as to whether Politico had any more details beyond its vague allegation that Herman Cain had made gestures "that were not overtly sexual but that made women uncomfortable," Allen's telling first instinct was to point to the story's popularity on a social networking site.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: backstabberromney; backstabberrove; hermancain; nevertrustromney; nevertrustrove; politico; romneydirtytrick; rovedirtytrick; saboteurromney; saboteurrove; sexualharassment; twitter

1 posted on 11/01/2011 5:40:27 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

There’s no “there” there.

Gestures? Herman could have handled it smoother but this is going to wilt for lack of substance. Especially if the women in question refuse to do an Anita.


2 posted on 11/01/2011 5:42:37 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

In other words, this story has attracted more twits than any other thus far in the campaign. Not surprising.


3 posted on 11/01/2011 5:43:56 AM PDT by Huck (TAX TEA NOW==SUPPORT 9-9-9!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

More evidence? How about any evidence at all?


4 posted on 11/01/2011 5:45:01 AM PDT by muddler (Diligentia, Vis and Celeritas)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; Huck

I still think the Romney crew shopped this.

The Obamabots would have held onto this until the last 72 hours of the campaign.


5 posted on 11/01/2011 5:46:18 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Another demonstration that this story has little substance, but lots of faux outrage.

Clinton had Jennifer Flowers right before New Hampshire primary and he went on to win the White House.

The Cain story does not even come close.


6 posted on 11/01/2011 5:46:26 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Cain for President - Because I like the content of his character)
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To: netmilsmom; Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; Diogenesis; MEG33; PGalt; ...

Politico’s Allen can’t produce any more Cain details. Diverts to bragging of big number of “Twitter mentions.” Ping to Today show list.


7 posted on 11/01/2011 5:48:11 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (FReepmail or ping me to be put on my ping list for criticism of liberal media)
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To: Huck
"In other words, this story has attracted more twits than any other thus far in the campaign. Not surprising."

You got that right! LOL bttt

8 posted on 11/01/2011 5:48:36 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Obamageddon, Barackalypse Now! Bam is "Debt Man Walking" in 2012 - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Well gosh, if 48,000 Twits have Twittered about it, it MUST be true!


9 posted on 11/01/2011 5:49:06 AM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

10 posted on 11/01/2011 5:51:01 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Hi Mark. How many of those tweets can Allen identify as calling him and Martin douchebags? Cuz, having looked for myself, it’s a lot...


11 posted on 11/01/2011 5:51:12 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (/)
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To: StAnDeliver

Ops already taken off the net.


12 posted on 11/01/2011 5:53:51 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: WayneS

Flash in the pan, it’s over, nothing to see here. Go Cain!


13 posted on 11/01/2011 5:55:01 AM PDT by freebird5850 (Of course Obama loves his country...it's just that Sarah Palin loves mine!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Politico is shameless pretending to be a "news" source.

They are PAID PR Reps.

Whenever Team Romney had rumors they wanted to start about other candidates,
Jonathan Martin has been their go-to guy to get those rumors in writing in front of a national audience.

“And The Most Irresponsible Journalist Award Goes to The Politico’s Jonathan Martin!
So tell me, how do you write a “news” story about an organization paying for a speaker when you don’t even know if the organization is paying for the speaker?
Ask “journalist” Jonathan Martin. He knows all about it.
You see, Jonny wrote a piss poor story the other day about how the Iowa Family Policy Center will be paying a large speaker fee if Sarah Palin comes to Iowa to keynote the IFPC’s fall funderaiser.
The only problem is that Jonny has no sources confirming that any exorbitant fee is being charged or paid.
Jonny also got some inside info from David Kochel, who was a top aide to former (and future) presidential candidate, Mitt Romney.
Hey Dave, didn’t I just read a story about how Mitt Romney tried to buy off the Iowa Christian Alliance?
I heard you helped facilitate that little scheme. And somehow you are shocked at the thought of a well-known political figure (who very likely isn’t running for president) getting paid a speaker’s fee for (gasp) a public speaking appearance? ..
and then we’ve got Tim Albrecht quoted. He was the Iowa spokesman for Romney’s 2008 caucus campaign.”
And it always seemed like, whenever the Romney people had rumors they wanted to start about other candidates,
Jonny was their go-to guy to get those rumors in writing in front of a national audience.


"Who's the Palin Leaker from the McCain Campaign?
National Review Online The publication of a Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin
appears to have opened old wounds in the McCain campaign.
... the source of the “Diva” leak was Nicolle Wallace’s husband."


Who benefits most from Sanford meltdown? Californian (that's right) Mitt Romney


"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"



14 posted on 11/01/2011 5:55:34 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Also, I accidentally watched ABC News with Diane Sawyer and they gave it a winking nod, at best. Treated it very Clinton-ish (not surprising given this was the network that gave Bubba the hall pass on his pecadillos).

Politico is worked up because it's all been process to date, and they got lucky and hit a slow news cycle. They're still driving home their KIAs to their overfed wives in NVA, and losing their hair on camera.

And what is it about Politico -- do you have to have a bad combover to get a job there?

15 posted on 11/01/2011 5:57:12 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (/)
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To: Matchett-PI
I'm not what you would call a Cain fan, but this story is just idiotic. Anyone who has worked in corporate knows that employees make all sorts of claims. There is nothing substantive to this at all. Lawyers settle routinely.

Corporate policy is to settle disputes. Corporate lawyers hate juries. They would rather settle and be done with it. This way, they minimize the risk and the publicity. It's just the cost of doing business to buy off the malcontents. This was explained to me by the lead attorney at a Fortune 100 company.

Some may look at Cain's handling of the matter and find fault. But some of that will just be a rationalization for hyping the non-story. I doubt Cain will lose a single supporter over this. Unless there is a pattern, or Cain is caught in a bold lie, this story is a non-story.

One aspect that IS interesting to me is where this story came from. It sure seems to me that his GOP rivals have more of a motive than the DEMs. The radio talkers were avoiding this yesterday, trying to use this as an attack on the MSM and liberal hypocrisy (talk radio template 101), but it's the one part of the story that I find curious.

16 posted on 11/01/2011 5:58:48 AM PDT by Huck (TAX TEA NOW==SUPPORT 9-9-9!)
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To: sinanju

Mike Allen’s gesture in that pic is making me uncomfortable!


17 posted on 11/01/2011 6:01:48 AM PDT by taterjay
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I’d really like to meet Mike some day.


18 posted on 11/01/2011 6:05:50 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

It’s obvious that Mike Allen is a racist.


19 posted on 11/01/2011 6:06:18 AM PDT by FReepaholic (Stupidity is not a crime, so you're free to go.)
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To: Huck; holdonnow; rush
"The radio talkers were avoiding this yesterday, trying to use this as an attack on the MSM and liberal hypocrisy"

Not so. In their analysis of the situation both Mark Levin and Rush said that "it was also possible" that the campaigns of the Republican front runners may not have clean hands in this.

In fact, on his show last night, Levin said that both campaigns should question their staffers on this to determine if any of them were involved.

20 posted on 11/01/2011 6:14:01 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Obamageddon, Barackalypse Now! Bam is "Debt Man Walking" in 2012 - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Matchett-PI
I actually heard a lot of both those shows yesterday. On Rush, it came up from a caller, and my recollection is that Rush discounted it, and kept his sights on the MSM. That's a predictable reaction from Rush. That's his M.O. to keep his attacks focused on the MSM and liberals.

Levin basically took the same approach. "It's possible." But to me it's more than possible--it's probable. I can't see why liberals would play this card now. They would save it for later. The motive for this is with Cain's GOP rivals.

Romney would be my suspect. He's got the money. He's got the liberal tendencies. And he's not above dirty tricks. Perry and Bachmann would also be suspects, as they also have much to gain if Cain falters.

I can see no reason why the left would play this card now. Can't think of a single reason.

21 posted on 11/01/2011 6:21:50 AM PDT by Huck (TAX TEA NOW==SUPPORT 9-9-9!)
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To: Matchett-PI
Levin said that both campaigns should question their staffers on this to determine if any of them were involved.

This is silly. That's like saying Don Corleone should question Sonny, Mike, and Fredo to see if they've been bribing politicians. Whatever campaign did this did so knowingly.

22 posted on 11/01/2011 6:23:34 AM PDT by Huck (TAX TEA NOW==SUPPORT 9-9-9!)
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To: Matchett-PI
Here's Limbaugh. He basically discounts it, and pivots:

I suppose that it's possible that a Republican could be behind this. I doubt it because The Politico was used. If a Republican were behind this, I think a different publication would have been used. This is so liberal. Watch these people, listen to these people talk about a campaign commercial with a guy puffing on a cigarette. These people, I'm gonna tell you something, the American left and the Democrat Party and the media are so out of the mainstream of life in this country, while at the same time thinking they define it. Who but a bunch of absolute crazed feminazis could go nuts here over gestures?

23 posted on 11/01/2011 6:25:59 AM PDT by Huck (TAX TEA NOW==SUPPORT 9-9-9!)
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To: sinanju

“The Obamabots would have held onto this until the last 72 hours of the campaign.”

That was the old strategy. The new more effective strategy is to disqualify strong candidates early so you don’t ever have to run against them. Better to eliminate them before the primary before they build a strong following.


24 posted on 11/01/2011 6:26:43 AM PDT by Hacklehead (The goal of political correctness is to hide the truth.)
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To: sinanju
It has Rove's fingerprints all over it.

Obama's minions will be pushing former Godfather Pizza employees as "Cains' Victims" next year during the general election.

25 posted on 11/01/2011 6:27:49 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: Matchett-PI
Sorry to keep pinging you...hope you don't mind. Read Limbaugh's quote. It makes NO sense. If a GOPer were behind this, would he want his/her fingerprints on it? What's he gonna do? Go to National Review??

It makes perfect sense to me that a GOP campaign would do this through liberal channels. Hell, they could send an anonymous tip from a Gmail account! Of course it's made to look like it's coming from the left.

And maybe it is. I just can't think of a reason why they would do it. Unless you think the left wants to take Cain out. I don't believe that at all. I think they'd love to face Cain.

26 posted on 11/01/2011 6:29:36 AM PDT by Huck (TAX TEA NOW==SUPPORT 9-9-9!)
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To: Huck

re Cain’s handling of the matter, while it does seem that he could be handling it better, there is also the possibility that there’s some ‘rope a dope’ going on if the accusations are really as silly as Cain asserts.


27 posted on 11/01/2011 6:31:41 AM PDT by tgdunbar
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To: Huck

Of course “he doubts it”, as does Levin, but they both say it is a possibility. That’s all I was saying.


28 posted on 11/01/2011 6:31:53 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Obamageddon, Barackalypse Now! Bam is "Debt Man Walking" in 2012 - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Huck

Yopu wrote: “..It makes perfect sense to me that a GOP campaign would do this through liberal channels....”

I don’t disagree that it would make sense. Here is what I wrote yesterday:

To: Luther1917

“The democrats have no reason to spread garbage about Cain. They don’t worry about Cain. Karl Rove has been known to use every lowlife tactic in the world to gain the advantage. ...”

This is the type of thing RATS would do just days before the general election, leaviing almost no time for the accused to respond.

Timing is everything. At this particular TIME, those who have the most to gain from this smear of Cain are the Romney and Perry Campaigns.

Just sayin’...

25posted on Monday, October 31, 2011 12:44:51 PMby Matchett-PI
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2800335/posts?page=25#25


29 posted on 11/01/2011 6:39:51 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Obamageddon, Barackalypse Now! Bam is "Debt Man Walking" in 2012 - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Matchett-PI
Of course “he doubts it”, as does Levin

"Of course" because that's how they use their megaphone, not "of course" because it's unlikely. If you look at the timing, the motive for doing this is among Cain's GOP rivals. But you're right---it's not surprising that Levin and Rush don't want to talk about that and would rather keep their sights on the left.

but they both say it is a possibility. That’s all I was saying.

Grudgingly, and only because callers brought it up. That's what I'm saying. Anyway, I won't bug you about it anymore. Thanks for the chat.

30 posted on 11/01/2011 6:40:00 AM PDT by Huck (TAX TEA NOW==SUPPORT 9-9-9!)
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To: Matchett-PI

I see we are in agreement. Thanks for showing me that post. Have a nice day.


31 posted on 11/01/2011 6:41:19 AM PDT by Huck (TAX TEA NOW==SUPPORT 9-9-9!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Big deal. I’ve read the accusations and it’s not like Cain bankrupted a great nation or anything. He’s still way better than the ignorant child holding the office today.


32 posted on 11/01/2011 6:42:57 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
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To: Huck

You’re welcome! You have a great day, too!


33 posted on 11/01/2011 6:42:57 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Obamageddon, Barackalypse Now! Bam is "Debt Man Walking" in 2012 - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: sinanju

I’ll bet you a large cup of coffee that Rove is behind this


34 posted on 11/01/2011 6:45:30 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The occupiers hate corporate America.

In corporate America, a woman can complain about a “perceived” innuendo and win some lovely parting gifts.

In OCCUPY America, a woman is expected to quietly endure rape for the greater good.

Some questions for Mike Allen and all the investigative journalists at Politico...
Would your daughter be safer at a corporate job or at an occupy protest? And why wouldn't that be a much more important political story? Real sexual assault is occurring at these events, and the real victims are being told to shut up about it...isn't that story worth a twitter count?

35 posted on 11/01/2011 6:46:59 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: Huck
I can't see why liberals would play this card now. They would save it for later. The motive for this is with Cain's GOP rivals.

The Obama campaign could have some internal polling numbers that say the Cain Train will split the black vote and end up being a landslide if he gets the nomination. If the numbers are bad enough, they may have played this card earlier than they wanted to get Romney or Perry back in the lead.

Romney would be my suspect. He's got the money. He's got the liberal tendencies. And he's not above dirty tricks. Perry and Bachmann would also be suspects, as they also have much to gain if Cain falters.

Romney is my top suspect too. Perry is next to try to set himself up as the main anti-Romney candidate which he was for his few weeks of fame. I could also see Ron Paul supporters behind it because they have that special combination of fanatic and crazy that you don't see very often.

36 posted on 11/01/2011 7:01:08 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Herman Cain: possibly the escapee most dangerous to the Democrats since Frederick Douglass.)
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To: KarlInOhio
I could also see Ron Paul supporters behind it because they have that special combination of fanatic and crazy that you don't see very often.

LOL. That's an excellent point, amusingly put. RP slipped my mind altogether, but I could see that. Certainly some flamethrowers in his camp, not above this sort of thing.

37 posted on 11/01/2011 7:05:36 AM PDT by Huck (TAX TEA NOW==SUPPORT 9-9-9!)
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To: sinanju

If it ever comes outs, and it most probably will, who was the instigator, that person’s campaign, if it’s a Republican, will be finished. It would be utterly stupid of any of the Pubbie campaigners to do something like this. That doesn’t mean I don’t think they wouldn’t do it, but it would be so counter-productive to border on terminal stupidity. Leaks are all eventually found out. More likely a friend of one of the candidates. I don’t think Romney or Perry are that stupid to initiate it by themselves.


38 posted on 11/01/2011 7:13:33 AM PDT by driftless2
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