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Payday Loans (Thomas Sowell)
Creators Syndicate ^ | November 1, 2011 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 10/31/2011 1:17:48 PM PDT by jazusamo

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1 posted on 10/31/2011 1:17:52 PM PDT by jazusamo
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2 posted on 10/31/2011 1:20:44 PM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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Let's take this one step at a time. Whatever the merits or demerits of the rest of the argument, $45 is not going to trap anyone in a never-ending cycle of debt, even if they are making only the bare minimum wage. Personal irresponsibility in managing money can trap anyone, but that is regardless of whether or not they take out payday loans.

Yeah, let's do take this one step at at time: Personal responsibility should prevent anyone from ever falling prey to the "payday loan" come ons. Defending these bastards on the grounds of "capitalism" or anything else is the sort sophistry that causes all the other insanity you like to write about.

Swimming with loansharks is for professionals only.

3 posted on 10/31/2011 1:22:01 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: the invisib1e hand

So, you’d prefer the old days?
You know, where the “loansharks” were really loansharks and not a hyperbolic application of the term,
and they would actually come break your knees for non-payment instead of sending you to collections?


4 posted on 10/31/2011 1:26:47 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Late fees on, say, apartment rent or a car loan could easily exceed $45. Taking a payday loan might well be a rational decision given an individual’s financial situation.


5 posted on 10/31/2011 1:27:58 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: jazusamo

Those evil payday loaners (/sarc). Those people should just go to their neighborhood bank and borrow the $300 at 3% interest, right? Hahahahahaha When banks are turning down secured home loans by people who have jobs? Who are they kidding.

The payday lending business is sleazy. No denying that. It is an opportunistic business which preys on those who can least afford it. Just like bail bondsmen, rent-to-own, pawn shops, package liquor stores and state lotteries.

What these clowns don’t understand is that there are occasional life experiences which makes having $300 today instead of two weeks from now a matter of life or death. People should be free make their own bad choices.


6 posted on 10/31/2011 1:28:09 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: MrB
In the "old days," the loansharks had no recourse to the legal system, couldn't arrange to have your shit repossessed or your wages garnished or any of the other "legal" ramifications of the inevitable default.

As was previously stated: swimming with loansharks is for professionals. Any "civilization" of the practice mere gives them more of an edge and the cloak of legitimacy.

Geezus I can't believe how ever-loving gullible people are.

7 posted on 10/31/2011 1:30:07 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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Late fees on, say, apartment rent or a car loan could easily exceed $45. Taking a payday loan might well be a rational decision given an individual’s financial situation.

I urge you to save your synaptic energy for some legitimate argument.

8 posted on 10/31/2011 1:31:20 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: MrB

“The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he’s working for.”

Now, THAT I like.


9 posted on 10/31/2011 1:32:24 PM PDT by Da Coyote (Ngs)
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To: the invisib1e hand

I believe Dr. Sowell just told it like it is and is not defending anyone but pointing out how the leftist media distorts the issue.


10 posted on 10/31/2011 1:33:37 PM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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Franklin D. Roosevelt’s son extorted a $200,000 loan from a grocery chain that was under federal investigation — and he never repaid the loan. Moreover, FDR spoke directly to the head of the chain to seal the deal.

Interesting


11 posted on 10/31/2011 1:35:13 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: jazusamo

Fair enough!


12 posted on 10/31/2011 1:37:17 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: Truth is a Weapon

I agree. Responsible people will not use these people unless they absolutely have to but unfortunately that day may come they have to.


13 posted on 10/31/2011 1:38:03 PM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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Actually these guys are worse, at least regular loan sharks apply some of the vig to the principal. These payday loan guys will keep charging you the roll over fee forever, not one cent ever reduces the loan. It’s a sad industry that’s less honest than mobsters.


14 posted on 10/31/2011 1:40:21 PM PDT by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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That is interesting, never heard that before. Back in those days $200,000 was a heck of a lot of money.


15 posted on 10/31/2011 1:41:18 PM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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16 posted on 10/31/2011 1:42:21 PM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: the invisib1e hand
I, for one, appreciate the ability to borrow $100 every three months when my SS check needs to cover five weeks of expenses rather than the usual four. Admittedly, the $15 charge I pay once a quarter is a huge percentage rate but, come on, it's only $15 and is very much worth it to me.

I hate to imagine that the statist nannies (whom you seem to agree with) will get their way and protect me from "the predators". Let me make my own damn decisions.

17 posted on 10/31/2011 1:43:45 PM PDT by Bob
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“Personal responsibility should prevent anyone from ever falling prey to the “payday loan” come ons.” You could make that argument about lots of businesses. Who forces people to take out payday loans? I haven’t seen someone going to get one with a gun to their back. Same with pawn shops.

“Defending these bastards on the grounds of “capitalism” or anything else is the sort sophistry that causes all the other insanity you like to write about.” - Really? How would you defend your right to prevent this industry? Smarter than them? Preventer (new word :)) of commerce? what?

“Swimming with loansharks is for professionals only.” - what does this mean? A person making a pay day loan is not as smart as you?


18 posted on 10/31/2011 1:47:16 PM PDT by cowtowney
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To: the invisib1e hand
Late fees on, say, apartment rent or a car loan could easily exceed $45. Taking a payday loan might well be a rational decision given an individual’s financial situation.

I urge you to save your synaptic energy for some legitimate argument.

You might want to expend some yourself and try to point out the illegitimacy of the argument.

19 posted on 10/31/2011 1:48:16 PM PDT by Bob
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To: discostu

You imply “dishonesty”, ie, deception, in not applying any of the roll over fee to the principal.

This deception would have to be blatant in the lending documents, as in stating “some portion of the fee will be applied to principal”. I’d bet you anything it says exactly the opposite, or else there’d be a lot of lawsuits going on.

Are the lenders being “dishonest” when the customers refuse to read the agreement?


20 posted on 10/31/2011 2:00:21 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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