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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 30 October 2011
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 30 October 2011 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 10/30/2011 4:43:41 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: Happy Rain
My prediction is FNS will help Perry cause they just can't take a chance that a conservative who is not under their control,like Herman Cain, wins.

I think you hit it on the head. They said Romney had been invited and was the only one who had declined. I don't know how much was because they're pissed that he declined after they've campaigned so hard for him or how much is because they finally realized he's not gaining any new traction and they fear Cain as you said. Either way okay by me.

201 posted on 10/30/2011 9:37:11 AM PDT by Sal (We want to run against Obama because he's even weaker and stupider than Carter.)
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To: kabar

And those stats will only get worse.There is so much that needs to be cleaned up in the ozero govt. it boggles the mind.
In South Fla.its almost sport to game the system,its done via the “no habla defense.”NO telling what real numbers of offenders are.


202 posted on 10/30/2011 9:37:24 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Jeff Chandler; Fishtalk

I expect that the “neighbor” is doing the same as I: Running a (very secure) wireless router, partly for the convenience of connection around the house for Grandma’s little laptop and also for visitors (like kids & grandkids) who don’t seem to be able to go without 24/7 Facebook or email feeds.

So MYOB already, or stand by for an invitation to come help me install a hardwired network both at Fish’s and our ancient establishment.


203 posted on 10/30/2011 9:37:32 AM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet ((447 and a wakeup) Truth, I know, always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition.)
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To: TomGuy
I fault Romey somewhat for believing the global warming crap early on, but it seems more important that he's seen through it now. Haven't lots of people had their eyes opened once the emails were exposed, and all that followed ? Of course.

Besides, see tag:

204 posted on 10/30/2011 9:39:16 AM PDT by chiller ( Elect another batch of TPartiers and it won't matter which R we elect. WE will lead.)
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To: chiller

Problem is the enviros know this as well. You can only imagine the legal minefields rat attorneys have set up for us to traverse.


205 posted on 10/30/2011 9:39:16 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: rodguy911

Not to worry....that department and most of it’s lawyers just got written out of next year’s budget. !!


206 posted on 10/30/2011 9:41:23 AM PDT by chiller ( Elect another batch of TPartiers and it won't matter which R we elect. WE will lead.)
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To: altura
So, since you are actually involved, what do you propose doing?

We need a pro-immigrant, low immigration policy with the following elements:

 A merit based immigration system that brings in the skills and talents to keep us competitive in the global economy;

 Reduced immigration levels based on need and more closely approximating 300,000 immigrants a year vice the current 1.2 million annually;

 Elimination of extended chain migration, i.e., family reunification, limiting it to the nuclear family;

 Enforcement of existing immigration laws to reduce the current illegal alien population and limit future illegal immigration, i.e., attrition thru enforcement. Enforcement would include: (1) ending the job magnet; (2) increasing coordination at the federal level by eliminating barriers to information sharing among agencies; (3) leveraging state and local enforcement resources; (4) fully implementing the US-VISIT Program to track and deport visa overstays; and (5) secure the border and make mandatory such programs as E-Verify and 287 [g] authority to assist employers and law enforcement in identifying illegal aliens;

 Elimination of birthright citizenship and the visa lottery program;

 Ensure that anyone who enters this nation illegally is not rewarded by being permitted to stay and work here; i.e., no amnesty;

 Streamline the processing and adjudication of immigration cases; and

 Promote pro-immigrant measures that help newcomers assimilate and embrace the values and principles of our Founders and the Constitution.

Cutting off all benefits to illegals unless they have children who are citizens?

Illegals are not entitled to federal benefits except thru their American born children. Supreme Court decisions have mandated that illegals must be admitted to K-12 education (Plyler vs Doe) and that hospital emergency rooms must treat all who enter. Many states have provided benefits knowingly to illegals, in-state tuition being one of them. The costs are enormous and growing. When you reward something, you get more of it.

I think we should seriously study all benefit programs. There is surely much waste and fraud.

That is a given. When you include the entitlement programs along with means tested welfare programs, more than two-thirds of the federal budget is spent on the redistribution of wealth. And when you consider that 42 cents of every federal dollar spent is borrowed, a lot of it from the Chinese, is it any wonder that we are the world's largest debtor nation? The entitlement programs alone represent an unfunded liability of over $60 trillion.

207 posted on 10/30/2011 9:41:31 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Bernard
If the East Indians can read questions from a tech support script and tell my wife how to reboot her PC, they should be able to read press releases from politicians into a TV camera. Jeffrey Imelt could out-source NBC news reading just like jobs at GE.

Seems the Gobmint already has...

I had to call the unemployment office...eventually (after several days trying) got through to an "East Indian gent" who was obviously reading from the teleprompter (video screen for those in Rio Vista).

Could be a local hire however.

208 posted on 10/30/2011 9:45:18 AM PDT by spokeshave (Cain....100% American, 100% Black and 100% for the Constitution...999 an added benefit.)
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To: PaleoBob

So you’re not going to vote for someone who would be good for the COUNTRY, you’re going to vote for someone who would be good for YOU ?

I’m going to vote for the person who I feel will be best for our Country, regardless of how it will affect me personally. Our Country is on the line here. I will survive either way. But my Country may not.


209 posted on 10/30/2011 9:45:58 AM PDT by BagCamAddict (Order 15 Herman Cain Yard Signs for $130: https://store.hermancain.com/orderform.asp?pid=20)
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To: kabar
They are citizens thru jus solis i.e., birthright citizenship.

The 14th applied to freed slaves and the children of slaves.

>>All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.<<

Actually if born to Mexican parents, they are Mexicans, which makes them subject to the laws of Mexico.

210 posted on 10/30/2011 9:46:06 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: kabar

“Bears don’t vote.”

(slapping forehead)Doh!


211 posted on 10/30/2011 9:50:38 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: Miss Marple

Things like this can also be used by our candidates to spin back on interviewers about their failure to cover news.


212 posted on 10/30/2011 9:50:40 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: the law of unintended consequences in action.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
The 14th applied to freed slaves and the children of slaves.

That is your interpretation of the Constitution (and I agree with it) but that is not the current law as written and carried out in the real world. Birthright citizenship is the law of the land until changed. Millions in this country have received their citizenship this way.

H.R.140.IH proposes to amend Section 301 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1401) to change the way we grant citizenship

If this bill is ever passed, there will no doubt be a a Constitutional challenge that will go to SCOTUS for resolution. If it is not upheld, then a Constitutional amendment will be necessary. Only the US and Canada have birthright citizenship in the developed world. Ireland was the last country in Europe to get rid of it and they did it by constitutional amendment.

213 posted on 10/30/2011 10:00:18 AM PDT by kabar
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To: PaleoBob
I’m a frickin’ Paulbot now. Stop trying to reason with me.

H.U.A.

But taxation and spending are two completely different issues, much like sports and education. So much so that there are different committees (Ways and Means, and Appropriations) for those two separate fiscal activities.

So what is your crazy uncle's tax cut plan?

214 posted on 10/30/2011 10:01:16 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Miss Marple
Newt has partially redeemed himself, but I remember his double-throwing of Bush under the bus on Fox in two related but separate interviews over Katrina. That alone makes me leary of him.

Never forget this one.......

Newt Gingrich and Nancy Pelosi – Happy together on Global Warming
215 posted on 10/30/2011 10:01:31 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: altura; Unrepentant VN Vet

So I guess that stealing bandwidth is just redistributing wealth.


216 posted on 10/30/2011 10:02:55 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Cain talking to old Bob about
the electric fence and immigration.

*Chuckle*...maybe; "Senile Bob", Would be a better description for "old Bob"...
heck, that could be "the std.", for all the LMSM "Chattering" Class...DBM.


217 posted on 10/30/2011 10:06:49 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (I can take tomorrow, spend it all today. Who can take your income, tax it all away. Obama Man can. :)
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To: rodguy911
.--56 mpg--what will it take to get there? No mention of what it takes,small cars that kill people in wrecks, etc.all bs.

This is what the admin wants us all in...


218 posted on 10/30/2011 10:08:46 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Cheerio
.--56 mpg--what will it take to get there? No mention of what it takes,small cars that kill people in wrecks, etc.all bs.

This is what the admin wants us all in...

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219 posted on 10/30/2011 10:13:07 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler
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To: Bernard
Actually, as long as the iRS can collect student loan late payments by seizing income tax refunds, the government probably thinks it can get 85% collection of student loans.

Why wouldn't the Won just ignore this law similar to his back door amnesty and allowing illegal aliens to roam our streets, being turned lose after being arrested by law enforcement?
220 posted on 10/30/2011 10:17:40 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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