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Destruction of Copts Is Islamically Correct
Townhall.com ^ | October 14, 2011 | Diana West

Posted on 10/15/2011 12:57:34 PM PDT by Kaslin

I am looking at a reproduction of an old engraving of Jerusalem's Church of the Holy Sepulcher. It is in Bat Ye'or's book "The Dhimmi," which collects primary documents from history to chronicle the impact of Islamic law on non-Muslims through the centuries.

What is notable about the image, which is based on an 1856 photograph, is that the church, said to be at the site of Jesus Christ's crucifixion and burial, has no cross and no belfry. Stripped of its Christian symbols, the church stood in compliance with the Islamic law and traditions of the Ottoman (Turkish) Empire, which ruled Jerusalem at the time.

I went back to the book to find this image for a reason. It had to do with last weekend's massacre of two dozen Coptic Christians in Cairo by Egyptian military and street mobs, which also left hundreds wounded. The unarmed Copts were protesting the destruction of yet another church in Egypt, St. George's, which on Sept. 30 was set upon by thousands of Muslim men following Friday prayers. Why? The trigger was repair work on the building – work that the local council and governor had approved.

Does that explanation make any sense? Not to anyone ignorant of Islamic law. Unfortunately, that criterion includes virtually all media reporting the story.

Raymond Ibrahim, an Islam specialist, Arabic speaker and author of "The Al Qaeda Reader" (Broadway, 2007), catalogs the key sequence of events that turned a church renovation project into terror and flames. With repair work in progress, he writes online at Hudson New York, "It was not long before local Muslims began complaining, making various demands, including that the church be devoid of crosses and bells – even though the permit approved them – citing that 'the cross irritates Muslims and their children.'"

Those details drove me to re-examine the de-Christianized 19th-century image of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher – no cross, no bells. It becomes a revealing illustration of Islamic history repeating itself in this "Shariah Autumn," the deadly but natural harvest of the grotesquely branded "Arab Spring."

Given our see-no-Shariah media (and government), we have no context in which to place such events. That context is Shariah society, advanced (but by no means initiated) by "Arab Spring," where non-Muslims – "dhimmi" – occupy a place defined for them by Islamic law and tradition. Theologian, author and Anglican pastor Mark Durie elaborates at markdurie.com: "Dhimmi are permitted to live in an Islamic state under terms of surrender as laid out in the 'dhimma' pact." Such terms, Durie writes, "are a well-established part of Islamic law and can be found laid out in countless legal text books." When non-Muslims violate these terms, they become subject to attack.

To place the dhimmi pact in comparable Western terms is to say the West has its Magna Carta, Islam has its Pact of Umar. Among other things, this seminal pact governing Muslim and non-Muslims relations stipulates, Durie notes, the condition that Christians "will neither erect in our areas a monastery, church or sanctuary for a monk, nor restore any place of worship that needs restoration."

Thus, this anti-Coptic violence, which for the moment has caught world attention, is Islamically correct. This is the piece of the puzzle Westerners fail to grasp. But Durie takes us through the theological steps: "For some pious Muslims in Egypt today, the act of repairing a church is a flagrant provocation, a breach of the peace, which amounts to a deliberate revocation of one's right to exist in the land." As such, it "becomes a legitimate topic for sermons in the mosque (where) the faithful are urged ... to uphold the honor of Islam." In Islamic terms, then, the destruction of the church is no injustice, as Durie writes. It is "even a duty to destroy the church and even the lives of Christians who have the temerity to repair their churches." That's because dhimmi who take to the streets to protest the Islamically just destruction of the church "are also rebels who have forfeited their rights (under the pact) to 'safety and protection.'" As violators of the "dhimmi" pact, they become fair game.

It's quite simple, but the theology eludes us. Why? I think the answer is that to expose the facts about Shariah in the Western milieu is to invite their criticism. Such criticism is forbidden under Shariah. So, we remain silent – which is what good "dhimmi" do.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: arabspring; cairo; christianpersecution; copt; coptchristians; dhimmi; egypt; godsgravesglyphs; ibrahim; kingjohn; magnacarta; pactofumar; sharia; shariaautumn; shariah; shariahautumn; steelydan; unitedkingdom

1 posted on 10/15/2011 12:57:37 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

The Moose are cross, they have bats in their belfry. They are dhimmi-wits.


2 posted on 10/15/2011 1:02:39 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Kaslin

bump


3 posted on 10/15/2011 1:08:03 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Kaslin
"For some pious Muslims in Egypt today, the act of repairing a church is a flagrant provocation, a breach of the peace, which amounts to a deliberate revocation of one's right to exist in the land." As such, it "becomes a legitimate topic for sermons in the mosque (where) the faithful are urged ... to uphold the honor of Islam." In Islamic terms, then, the destruction of the church is no injustice, as Durie writes. It is "even a duty to destroy the church and even the lives of Christians who have the temerity to repair their churches."

The sxriptures teach, you repair with the trowel in one hand and hold a sword in the other.

4 posted on 10/15/2011 1:11:25 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Kaslin
So refreshing to see the MSM politely posing these issues to our politicians, from both sides of the aisle, for their comment. /sarc

PC has destroyed civil discourse on any contentious matter as it was designed to do. That leaves us rushing to our doom with the Left standing to the side, braying their approval and not realizing that they will be caught up in the inevitable conflagration along with the rest of us.

5 posted on 10/15/2011 1:35:02 PM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Kaslin
So refreshing to see the MSM politely posing these issues to our politicians, from both sides of the aisle, for their comment. /sarc

PC has destroyed civil discourse on any contentious matter as it was designed to do. That leaves us rushing to our doom with the Left standing to the side, braying their approval and not realizing that they will be caught up in the inevitable conflagration along with the rest of us.

6 posted on 10/15/2011 1:36:45 PM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Kaslin
Destruction of Copts Is Islamically CorrectOf course it is. And I don't need images, books, or anything else.

What part of, "KILL THE INFIDEL," is hard to understand?

If you're not a Moslem, they will kill you. Simple.

7 posted on 10/15/2011 1:46:04 PM PDT by upchuck (Rerun: Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: Kaslin
the cross irritates Muslims and their children

And many people in this country as well.

8 posted on 10/15/2011 2:26:33 PM PDT by tbpiper (Sarah Palin is the antivenin for the Obama poison)
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To: Kaslin

The Egyptian Copts are remnants of the very early Christian Church, even earlier than the Christian church which came to being under Emperor Constantine. The Muslim religion came 600+ years after the Coptic religion.

Ten percent of Egypt’s people are Copts and their survival this long has to be a miracle of God as they have been persecuted by the Christian church as begun by Constantine and later when the Muslims took Egypt and North Africa. The miracle is wearing thin as the Salafists or Muslim extremists of Egypt are killing Copts every day. The military government is not protecting the Copts at all.


9 posted on 10/15/2011 2:35:41 PM PDT by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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To: upchuck

And in Kosovo, NATO continues to advance Muslim policies against the few remaining Christians.


10 posted on 10/15/2011 2:48:19 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Kaslin

THE PACT OF UMAR

In the name of God, the Merciful and Compassionate. This is a letter to the servant of God Umar [ibn al-Khattab], Commander of the Faithful, from the Christians of such-and-such a city. When you came against us, we asked you for safe-conduct (aman) for ourselves, our descendants, our property, and the people of our community, and we undertook the following obligations toward you:

We shall not build, in our cities or in their neighborhood, new monasteries, Churches, convents, or monks’ cells, nor shall we repair, by day or by night, such of them as fall in ruins or are situated in the quarters of the Muslims.

We shall keep our gates wide open for passersby and travelers. We shall give board and lodging to all Muslims who pass our way for three days.

We shall not give shelter in our churches or in our dwellings to any spy, nor bide him from the Muslims.

We shall not teach the Qur’an to our children.

We shall not manifest our religion publicly nor convert anyone to it. We shall not prevent any of our kin from entering Islam if they wish it.

We shall show respect toward the Muslims, and we shall rise from our seats when they wish to sit.

We shall not seek to resemble the Muslims by imitating any of their garments, the qalansuwa, the turban, footwear, or the parting of the hair. We shall not speak as they do, nor shall we adopt their kunyas.

We shall not mount on saddles, nor shall we gird swords nor bear any kind of arms nor carry them on our- persons.

We shall not engrave Arabic inscriptions on our seals.

We shall not sell fermented drinks.

We shall clip the fronts of our heads.

We shall always dress in the same way wherever we may be, and we shall bind the zunar round our waists

We shall not display our crosses or our books in the roads or markets of the Muslims. We shall use only clappers in our churches very softly. We shall not raise our voices when following our dead. We shall not show lights on any of the roads of the Muslims or in their markets. We shall not bury our dead near the Muslims.

We shall not take slaves who have beenallotted to Muslims.

We shall not build houses overtopping the houses of the Muslims.

(When I brought the letter to Umar, may God be pleased with him, he added, “We shall not strike a Muslim.”)

We accept these conditions for ourselves and for the people of our community, and in return we receive safe-conduct.

If we in any way violate these undertakings for which we ourselves stand surety, we forfeit our covenant [dhimma], and we become liable to the penalties for contumacy and sedition.

Umar ibn al-Khittab replied: Sign what they ask, but add two clauses and impose them in addition to those which they have undertaken. They are: “They shall not buy anyone made prisoner by the Muslims,” and “Whoever strikes a Muslim with deliberate intent shall forfeit the protection of this pact.”

from Al-Turtushi, Siraj al-Muluk, pp. 229-230.


11 posted on 10/15/2011 5:00:07 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: knarf

I guess we need to give them the pact of Martel the Hammer. If they want to keep themselves in the 10th century, then we can do the same and give them the Tenth Crusade.


12 posted on 10/15/2011 5:45:01 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: ClayinVA

I still like Vlad the impaler’s solution with short stakes!


13 posted on 10/15/2011 10:04:03 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Obama is an instrument of enslavement)
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To: Kaslin

No crosses or bells——but we are expected to listen to the “Call to Prayers” 4 times a day, 24/7/365.

This has to start resonating here in the USA & we have to end the current occupation before it gets worse.


14 posted on 10/16/2011 6:04:34 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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This is an old topic. Just adding to the catalog.


15 posted on 06/15/2015 1:01:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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