Posted on 10/08/2011 12:42:30 PM PDT by montag813
Thank you for the answer, if you don’t mind but I’m led to believe that the feds now can sue plus can they with hold money to those places which defy immigration law.
Of course that would not happen if I’m correct but if we get power back then we could do the above and drop the suit against AZ etc.
A wise decision FRiend, wise.
Don’t be so heartless. Those illegals deserve it ya know.
/s
to the majority of CA voters who went from bad to worse?
ENJOY! you deserve nothing less.....
LOL! There are millions of illegals in Texas which makes your suggestion that Texas is so "law and order" with respect to illegal immigration laughable.
Illegal aliens, who live in perpetual violation of the law are not going to abide by some idiotic residency requirement for in state tution. These people didn't fulfill the requirements to legally enter the US in the first place, I don't know why you have such a hard time understanding this very simple concept.
How are they going to pay the financial aid loan back after they graduate since they cannot lawfully get a job because they are undocumented? These loans make subprime loans that brought this economy down look like AAA prime loans. Perhaps Brown can have Goldman bundle them up as undocumented backed securities derivatives, have S and P give them a AAA rating and sell them to the European banks to enhance their Greek sovereign debt portfolios.
What a great time to be an illegal alien living in the US!
“There are more people in the cart than pulling it.
This just piles more people into the cart and pulls more off the handle.”
yep...more communist humor at
http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,655123,00.html
the last “perfect communist state”
What services that help Americans is Brown planning to make budject cuts from. Brown, Calif taxes are so high, nobody wants to live there and as more legal folks move out, more illegals are moving in. Every illegal will get a free education, their parents work at jobs paying very low wages, it takes all their wages to support the family week to week. That’s why they start having American kids for their American kids equal income, like, food stamps, welfare, all the freebies, you all know what they are. Calif is just handing out free college education.
Another commie POS. Big surprise.
I wish them all eternity in hell.
Legislators in “non Dream act” states need to pass laws withholding their state’s proportionate amount in Fed Tax dollars. Let those states fund it on their own. There’s no reason the rest of us have to do it.
The 10th is becoming the most important amendment by the day. For the moment anyway.
That won’t stop the Perry bashers on here. THEY’VE already decided that paying in-state tuition is the same as free. So, I’m going to demand a refund, as I just got through putting my daughter through college here.
Yom Kippur is over, so I can get back to my favorite hobby- bashing idiots.
Jerry Brown is an idiot!
California is in its terminal phase, a lost cause. Leave it as it is.
Wasn’t Arnold Schwartzenegger the governor?
This will be a great opportunity for a referendum and if they time it right, it could be placed on the November ballot, making it an issue in every legislative race.
Come on down south brother. We moved back to Alabama from the Peoples Socialist Homosexual Empire of Washington State five years ago. We are so DANGED happy it makes you want to spit!!!! :-)
So let me get this straight, your son legally drove across a state line to attend school and you pay out-of-state tuition. If he went to Mexico and snuck across the national border, he'd get in-state rates and grants to boot?
(Who will maybe finally get it through their fat heads that this is what you get when you vote for rats.)
Something fishy is going on. Last year we had furlough days in our CA school district to help with budget cuts. This year we were supposed to have at least as many. When we showed up to work this school year, we were told no furlough days were needed. How can that be? California is more broke than ever.
I think Obama is funneling money to CA in exchange for buying all the Hispanic votes. I also see a ton of road work being done; roads torn up two or three times in the last year and put back together. It’s just keeping the construction union employed and happy to garner their votes.
A secret deal between Obama and Brown? I wouldn’t doubt it. They’re both corrupt as hell Marxist/commie democrat bastards and Obama and the corrupt fed have trillions of secretly printed, er, electronically generated dollars flowing all over creation. Cutting out a few billion for Brown wouldn’t even make the round off error and the auditors and congressional overseers would never catch it. Auditors? Congressional overseers? (slaps forehead) What was I thinking.
the rumor mill is saying that the Mexican mafia is calling a lot of the shots now.
What does “in the process of applying to legalize...” mean?
legalize on what basis?
Under what provision of US immigration law?
Immigraion leftists like Perry and Brown sign the darndest things.
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually, run out of other people’s money." - Margaret Thatcher
You and your socialist ilk are careening us headlong into a failing socialist state like much of western Europe, that will be bankrupt any day now - think Greece and domino affect.
All your socialist dreams WILL come tumbling down as they always have through history! But you're okay because you're behind gates. Your past and current Utopian delusions will further the once "Golden State" into the epitome of "Failed State". Once the checks stop flowing, let's see how much your "gimme class" really cares about you.
I hate every one of you socialist bastards in Sacramento. Or am I still allowed to say "hate"? Should I expect a knock at the door because I said the word "hate"?
Just to make sure, I will capitalize it for your stupid officials: HATE. As in hate you and your fellow commies destroying the once 7th largest economy and top of the education system in the entire friggin World!!! Now our education system second to the bottom in the USA. Why? Because of your f*cking unions that you supported and promoted in your first term. I really despise you. Shall I make it more clear?
C'mon and get me. I'd love to make this the flashpoint of every Constitutional patriot around the Nation. FU Brown and all your communist buddies and welfare "gimmes". Let's get it on, as the song goes.
It’s not going to happen. We have referendum and recall in this state and a bunch of pissed off voters.
(Who will maybe finally get it through their fat heads that this is what you get when you vote for rats.)
* I agree, maybe Moonbeam knows a referendum is already set to go..no way this thing will see the light of day plus doesn’t go into effect until Jan 1, 2013.
Plenty of time to reverse because the backlash is going to be fierce. I hear that even moderate dems don’t agree with this.
Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown was a flake of a Governor many years ago, and has improved with age about as well as vinegar does.
California finances are a total shambles. The last thing California should be doing is putting out more honey to attract additional millions of illegal aliens who take U.S. citizen jobs and who take U.S. citizen tax funds via all the freebies the illegals.
When you apply to the State University system of your choice in California, tell them that you are from Canada or New Zealand and request "in-state tuition" AND "financial aid".
DO IT! The registration offices obviously now can't contest your address. They now have to rubber stamp your request and you get the in-state tuition and aid as do the illegals.
Seriously, go for it kids. Apply as an immigrant from whatever country you choose, as long as you have some kind of documentation to show you lived there. Probably nothing more that a phone bill.
Someone should post this on Dummies R Us. I'm sure the more astute (big word for dumbasses) know what I'm doing here.
Have a great time with your feminist, drama, cultural, journal, racial studies on my dime. Wave when I drive by your house while you're living in your parents basement or spare bedroom or 15 to a house. But hey, you got a huge break on tuition because no California legislature has the cojones to protect their own citizens.
You can always use your books for a coffee table. Just get a level from Home Depot to make sure things don't run downhill. Oh, wait you can't afford a level. In that case, just use your t-shirt to mop stuff up. It's okay - t-shirts dry out. Oh, sorry, I forgot you got another kid on the way. In that case, look around for old bedsheets - they make great cleaning cloths.
OR...you could always go back to Mexico and use your USA education to better your pathetic homeland you are so proud of...
Yup. Unfortunately, many of us just can't pack up leave. Jobs, family, friends, circumstances keep many of us from bailing. Believe me, if it weren't for my wife's aging parents, we would have been out of here and into Arizona about 4 years back.
Now, I'm not suggesting you or your son do anything illegal, but check into the requirements on the forms for California "in-state" tuition. Also, check out the newly signed AID for illegals. Think what ever country works with your ethnicity.
Again, I don't sanction illegal activities, but apparently illegal aliens can now get not only "in-state" tuition, but also get State AID/loans. Benefit your son while overwhelming the idiots in Sacremental.
I tried posting a thread to make my point more clear, but it was pulled...not sure why. Maybe on the verge of promoting unlawfulness. Personally, I don't think they got my point and thought I was a liberal. Doesn't matter. Help your kid and overwhelmed the pathetic Marxist indoctrinating education systems in the Republik of California.
Talk show host Michael Savage donated $5000 to Jerry Brown.
Savage is a fake.
Why are illegal immigrants given taxpayer-subsidized advantages that “out of state” students are not?
Brown did tweet he had signed this yesterday morning also. I was listening to talk radio in my car. The host,Ray Appleton, was outraged over the Dream act.
One professor called into the show, he said 60% of our students are on a free ride in college. He said with the DREAM ACT, it will now become 80%.
Then a father called in. FAFSA bases how much a student receives in grants by the parents income until the student is 24. The father said his son had always qualified for a grant until this year when he had made a lot less than the previous years.
Why? He said they raised the income level to qualify so they had plenty left over for the illegals. Supposedly, (I have not verified this)illegals can only get what is left over. So they just made sure plenty is left over.
Brown is turning California over to illegals and unions. He passed a bill this week that will hand over infrastructure jobs to unions. PLA’s which have been proven to stop minorities from getting work is part of the bill. Bush always refused PLA’s because of this. But Brown has to payback all his promises to those who elected him. Screw the rest of us who just pay taxes.
Brown would make a good VP for Obama when Biden decides to sit this one out. That way, all the Hispanic votes would be sealed for the Dems. Especially, after passing this bill!
Live in a small farming pocket of hard workers and conservatices but I still call California "Commiefornia." Posted that on an alleged friends site from my fake fascebook site and he screamed," YOU THINK THAT'S FUNNY." I replied," No I think it's realistic."
Imagine a church going man like that not even calling me anymore. Should I apologize? Seriously, California is thee nannyiest of nanny states, I need to skeedaddle out of here before the once financial and beautiful farmland hub of the country falls into the "Pacifistic," from it's own indebtedness. Maybe I'll move to Alabama, and help all those farmers pick what needs to be picked if they allow me to work with a cane.
People in CA will truly support this. People there are still convinced that “the government” can solve all problems. They may be unable to learn truth.
What you seem to be saying is that the illegal populations are about as likely to obey a residency requirement as the criminals are to follow a D.C. “gun control” act.
Most of the American people could not interpret this montage if their lives depended on it. They lack understanding of public matters.
That is just sad. =(
My friends at the UC say Brown is done after this term. He told them he would not run again. I want him to not even finish this term. I say recall now!
Hopefully Obama won’t think about Brown as a VP. Obama nominates people he wants to silence about who he truly is or payback. I doubt Brown has had anything to do with Obama’s corruption in the past. So Far!
Well, I’m heartbroken about it. Born and raised in California, I now have to stay and watch this mess.
At the high school where I work, a teacher asked the class (which is 99% Hispanic) who Thomas Jefferson was. No one knew... or cared. In English class we are discussing the American Personality in Literature. None of the students know what it is, or care. In History, we are studying US History and they can’t tell you a thing that Lincoln did. They root against America in international sports events. I was speaking with one student and he didn’t even know what a veteran was, though his own cousin turned out to be one.
These people will be voting in two years! Many are young citizens raised by illegal parents and they have been taught nothing about being American. We are here to be used as a system but there is no loyalty or gratitude there at all; and yet California and the Democrats want to load the voting registry with even more of these uneducated, disloyal voters who are ignorant of history.
Most such policies are about politics and power and money for politicians - both D or R. Both play both ends against the middle and sacrifice governing for the benefit of liberty and average US citizens for political advantage. We see it going on today as they both sacrifice the USA for their political job or Party advantage in 2012.
I lived in both states found Idaho to be much more what I feel America should be. Trouble is we are full here and not taking reservation. Good luck!
It’s Bachman and the republicans who criticize Perry.
I hear you and my heart goes out to you. We are in a similar situation in RI.
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