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Gov. Jerry Brown has signed California Dream Act, legislator says
LA Times ^ | 10-08-2011 | LA Times

Posted on 10/08/2011 12:42:30 PM PDT by montag813

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To: montag813

Freepers have no idea how bad this law is.

This means every single illegal that qualifies for college will get free tuition, because financial aid is based on income, and technically, illegals don’t file tax returns and don’t have real jobs.

And this is happening while tuition fees are going exponentially up for Californians who are actual citizens.


41 posted on 10/08/2011 1:52:06 PM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: All; Grunthor
CA already in-state tuition for illegals long before this year. This is a large expansion beyond that.

Part one of Cedillo's Dream Act expansion bill, signed earlier this year, made it possible for illegals to use private scholarships and grants.

This second part allows them to compete for tax payer-funded grants and other public dollars.

42 posted on 10/08/2011 1:53:53 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama wins in 2012.)
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To: Drango

I’m not unsympathetic to you. I pray for you that they don’t start taxing bathhouses.


43 posted on 10/08/2011 2:02:11 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: CAluvdubya
CA already had TX-type in-state tuition. Cedillo's bill, this is the second half actually, goes far beyond that. The first half allowed illegals to accept private grants and scholarships. This is the second half, giving them access to public grants and fundings.

I contacted Brown's office weeks ago recommending a veto. I thought he had more sense than to go here.

It is a violation of federal law but the courts have said the only ones who have standing to enforce it are the feds, no student has standing under the statute at written.

No Democrat is going to sue the states over it and no Republican will risk alienating the growing Hispanic voting block.

44 posted on 10/08/2011 2:03:07 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama wins in 2012.)
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To: montag813

Proof that we dont’ need to increase taxes, fee’s etc, etc, to add “revenues”.

California is flush with cash.

So much so that we can take on additional programs with out concern about funding or deficits.


45 posted on 10/08/2011 2:07:21 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Democrats are violent. Prisons are overflowing with democrats convicted of violent crimes.)
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To: manc

In state tuition for illegals appears to be against federal law but the courts (including SCOTUS earlier this year) have found only the feds have standing to sue. That’s not going to happen. Democrats are happy with the policy and Republicans are afraid of alienating Hispanics as happened in CA during the 90s, ceding CA to Dems permanently.


46 posted on 10/08/2011 2:08:07 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama wins in 2012.)
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To: montag813

It may not be the best thing CA could do, but at least they can afford it, so it’s not THAT crazy.


47 posted on 10/08/2011 2:11:02 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: montag813

These traitors ought to get out of my country!


48 posted on 10/08/2011 2:11:08 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: newzjunkey

I disagree. This could lose Obama California.


49 posted on 10/08/2011 2:12:36 PM PDT by 4Liberty (88% of Americans are NON-UNION. We value honest, peaceful Free trade-NOT protectionist CARTELS)
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To: montag813

My son plays basketball at a junior college out there, and I have to pay out of state tuition. I wonder if he can fake his citizenship?


50 posted on 10/08/2011 2:17:59 PM PDT by neodad
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To: newzjunkey

Thank you for the answer, if you don’t mind but I’m led to believe that the feds now can sue plus can they with hold money to those places which defy immigration law.

Of course that would not happen if I’m correct but if we get power back then we could do the above and drop the suit against AZ etc.


51 posted on 10/08/2011 2:19:42 PM PDT by manc (Do not fall for the trolls who promote the protests on here, Marriage 1man=1 woman=marriage)
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To: Beckett08

A wise decision FRiend, wise.


52 posted on 10/08/2011 2:20:00 PM PDT by whatshotandwhatsnot (Islam wants you dead.)
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To: CAluvdubya

Don’t be so heartless. Those illegals deserve it ya know.

/s


53 posted on 10/08/2011 2:28:03 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: montag813

to the majority of CA voters who went from bad to worse?

ENJOY! you deserve nothing less.....


54 posted on 10/08/2011 2:31:08 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Beagle8U
Not in Texas, but they likely can in your state.

LOL! There are millions of illegals in Texas which makes your suggestion that Texas is so "law and order" with respect to illegal immigration laughable.

Illegal aliens, who live in perpetual violation of the law are not going to abide by some idiotic residency requirement for in state tution. These people didn't fulfill the requirements to legally enter the US in the first place, I don't know why you have such a hard time understanding this very simple concept.

55 posted on 10/08/2011 2:43:03 PM PDT by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: montag813

How are they going to pay the financial aid loan back after they graduate since they cannot lawfully get a job because they are undocumented? These loans make subprime loans that brought this economy down look like AAA prime loans. Perhaps Brown can have Goldman bundle them up as undocumented backed securities derivatives, have S and P give them a AAA rating and sell them to the European banks to enhance their Greek sovereign debt portfolios.


56 posted on 10/08/2011 2:47:03 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: Ajnin

What a great time to be an illegal alien living in the US!


57 posted on 10/08/2011 2:54:35 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: freedumb2003

“There are more people in the cart than pulling it.
This just piles more people into the cart and pulls more off the handle.”

yep...more communist humor at

http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,655123,00.html

the last “perfect communist state”


58 posted on 10/08/2011 3:05:31 PM PDT by CRBDeuce (here, while the internet is still free of the Fairness Doctrine)
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To: montag813

What services that help Americans is Brown planning to make budject cuts from. Brown, Calif taxes are so high, nobody wants to live there and as more legal folks move out, more illegals are moving in. Every illegal will get a free education, their parents work at jobs paying very low wages, it takes all their wages to support the family week to week. That’s why they start having American kids for their American kids equal income, like, food stamps, welfare, all the freebies, you all know what they are. Calif is just handing out free college education.


59 posted on 10/08/2011 3:17:16 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: montag813

Another commie POS. Big surprise.

I wish them all eternity in hell.


60 posted on 10/08/2011 3:24:31 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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