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Perry’s footsteps heard in the Latino community
La Voz Bilingüe ^ | 09/20/2011 | staff

Posted on 09/26/2011 2:53:12 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

President Obama was elected by a Latino constituency that believed he would also deliver on an immigration reform as a priority issue. Once in power however, the president chose instead to spend his significant political clout on other things like national insurance reform that quickly diminished his ability to govern.

Political pressure by Latino organizations such as the National Council of La Raza and Latino groups led by congressman Gutiérrez has resulted in a grudging allowance of 300,000 potential arrangements within the power of the administration designed to reverse deportation decisions made against undocumented workers with no criminal record. This is a poor substitute for the real thing expected by the Latino community whose vote was the key difference in Obama’s election especially in the eight battle ground states, including Colorado.

Now comes Republican Gov. Rick Perry of Texas who’s immigration package of political promises are very similar to that of Bush’s when he garnered the support of a significant part of the Latino community. The difference with Perry is that Texas already has a Dream Act of sorts that allows undocumented students to pay in-state tuition provided they fulfill certain requirements of education and residency.

Perry also has stated that he does not believe in a wall on the border that would divide the United States and Mexico. Although these stances do not sit well with the Tea Party, they are resonating in parts of a Latino community that has proven its political independence election after election.

Obama, who is up for reelection, has his work cut out as he attempts to meet the challenge of securing the same kind of support from the Latino community he enjoyed in 2008. I remember the outpouring of enthusiasm especially from young Latinos who provided unquestioned loyalty to candidate Obama in his primary struggle with Hillary Clinton and the general election that sealed that support across the Latino community.

The same will not be true this time around if what the president offers again is more of the same. The Latino community may have to think long and hard about other options like candidate Rick Perry, which are offering the same kind of things and have a track record to back their claim.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: heartless; laraza; latinos; obama; perry; perryamnesty

1 posted on 09/26/2011 2:53:16 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

So Perry has a better chance of winning the Mexico presidency.

Rock you like a Herman Cain!!!


2 posted on 09/26/2011 3:01:44 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Yer it!")
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Grow a brain, build a spine. Deport all of the ILLEGAL ALIENS. Be an AMERICAN for a real change for Americans.


3 posted on 09/26/2011 3:02:45 PM PDT by lephantom
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Perry also has stated that he does not believe in a wall on the border that would divide the United States and Mexico.

Tell you what, I'll support a wall across the Texas/Mexico Border as soon as someone can tell me how it's going to be constructed in the middle of the Rio Grande River keeping in mind that river also includes several really big lakes.

You can not wall off the Texas Mexico Border without surrendering US Waters to Mexico!

4 posted on 09/26/2011 3:03:39 PM PDT by txroadkill (Ghandi would have smacked 0bama in the head)
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To: lephantom
Grow a brain, build a spine. Deport all of the ILLEGAL ALIENS. Be an AMERICAN for a real change for Americans.

We tried that on border states, Obama filed a suit and Hillary reported us to the UN.

5 posted on 09/26/2011 3:10:12 PM PDT by txroadkill (Ghandi would have smacked 0bama in the head)
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To: txroadkill

More excuses. You can go around the lakes and rivers. He can continue his denial that a wall will work but you see how that is selling....not good. His support is decreasing by the minute. Bachmann learned that support is fickle and can be gone at a snap of a finger. Perry thankfully is going to learn that fact. He is one of the biggest people with excuses I have ever seen. He complains about Obama not helping with Immigration but he has only been President for two years. Perry was President for 10 years and he has not done anything with a Republican President.....he didn’t complain about President Bush not assisting him with stopping the aliens. Why? Where are the letters to Bush asking for assistance? Where are the lawsuits to the federal government when Bush was President. He did nothing and now that he is running for President suddenly is complaining that little Obama is not helping me.....come on. This guy clearly loves the illegal aliens. He feels sorry for them. Remember he said that you should not care about a last name or hearless if we don’t agree with giving aliens free bennies. He is passionate over the aliens.


6 posted on 09/26/2011 3:11:51 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Perry won’t feel so bad when he realizes how much time and money he wasted trying to get the GOP nomination, will be offset by all the gains in his popularity with Chicanos.


7 posted on 09/26/2011 3:14:47 PM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: txroadkill

http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/326377.html

“La respuesta del Gobernador Perry es simplemente no, la respuesta al problema de la migración no es cerrar las fronteras, sino al contrario, abrirlas”, dijo en su mensaje pronunciado totalmente en español.

translation: Governor Perry’s response is the answer to the problem of migration is not to close the borders, but rather, open,” he said in his message delivered in Spanish.


8 posted on 09/26/2011 3:17:54 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
"Perry’s footsteps heard in the Latino Illegal community"

Ricky loves those invaders !

9 posted on 09/26/2011 3:19:23 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: napscoordinator

He can love them all he wants but in the end they’ll vote for Democrats and that will be the end of this country.


10 posted on 09/26/2011 3:20:05 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

The democrats want a republican to grant amnesty. They will take the credit and the votes. Then they will do kicks and high fives promising the moon to Latinos just like they did to blacks.

The plantation will have all new members courtesy of the GOP.


11 posted on 09/26/2011 3:22:00 PM PDT by dforest
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To: BarnacleCenturion

This could possibly be Perry’s election song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XKmWELNYEE


12 posted on 09/26/2011 3:32:53 PM PDT by Leep
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To: napscoordinator
First, you can't go around the Rio Grande, it runs the entire border. You fence it, you prevent Texans (Americans) access who make their livings off of those waters. If you're talking about strategic fencing, then you actually agree with Perry.

As for the Bush years, Perry did ask for help and Bush put in the beginnings of the electronic fence and he sent in the National Guard. Obama cut the funding. We've got aprox 1.1-1.2 million illegals living in our state that we can't throw out, we can't deny them services, and thanks to the Supreme Court, we have to educate them, all at the cost of Texas Tax Payers. On top of that we have to secure the border for the rest of the country with our cops. On our border our DPS Helicopters and recently a Lifeflight helicopter in US air space took gun fire from the Mexican side of the border. We are invaded almost nightly by NARCO-Terrorist and corrupt Mexican Military Units that out gun and out man our police officers that are left to do the job the US Government wont do and you think demanding that the US Government wont do their Constitutional Duty is complaining?

Now I'll grant you that Perry's response "heartless" and "we don't care about your last name" was a stupid answer and if he can't explain that then he doesn't deserve our support, but don't accuse him of being weak on the border or "loving Illegals" when he is the only one running who is actually in the fight.

Personally I think he fell back on the lines that were being used on Texans when the in-state tuition issue was going on, which we supported, and for that he was just plain stupid. It didn't work then either. But what we did understand is that we had no other options, they are here, we aren't allowed to kick them out so there are two options for them, jail or working out of a Home Depot parking lot, we chose to give the children a third option, give them a $151 discount at our Jr. colleges and turn them into Tax Payers. We didn't like it, but the other two options leave them sucking up or tax dollars with nothing in return.

I'm not a Perrybot, I'm not sure that Gov. Goodhair would make a good President, I don't want the left to fall back on the "he's stupid" story with him not being able to disprove it and the swing voters believing it.  But I know Mitt is the RINO we don't want, Palin isn't running, Bachmann is either an idiot or has surrounded herself with idiots and that keeps her from getting my support, I don't think Cain has the experience, and I'm not sure that Newt can carry the middle and the rest I just don't like. But maybe a Newt/Cain or a Cain/Newt I can send money to.

13 posted on 09/26/2011 3:46:02 PM PDT by txroadkill (Ghandi would have smacked 0bama in the head)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

What’s funny is that one Latina lady I am close to who has gone through legitimate channels to become a permanent resident says she is completely against anyone who is not for kicking all illegals out of the US.

She says the people who come across illegally are the worst of the people that go through her native country.


14 posted on 09/26/2011 4:15:38 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: txroadkill

We can build what we need IN MEXICO and there’s nothing they can do about it.


15 posted on 09/26/2011 4:17:51 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Happy Rain

“Perry’s footsteps heard in the Latino community”

And his lips on hispanic *ss*s


16 posted on 09/26/2011 5:02:42 PM PDT by Grunthor (Rick Perry; Bush, only without the staggering intellect and conservative comittment)
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To: txroadkill

Photo of Perry just last year, fighting hard to secure Texas violent lawless borders...

17 posted on 09/26/2011 5:10:25 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: muawiyah
We can build what we need IN MEXICO and there’s nothing they can do about it.

LOL, OK, well some of us live in the real world.

But listen, the way to fix the border problem isn't too far away from your idea, the President needs to come to the realization that it is a Clear and Present Danger to the United States and send in the Military to kill the Narco- Terrorist and corrupt military and restore order to Mexico. I know for a fact that we are war gaming it and the next President will be the one with his finger on the trigger. We need to make sure that the guy we send to the White House is the guy who will pull the trigger. I believe that Perry understands that and will be willing to pull that trigger.

That does not mean that I think he will properly handle the people already here, but he understands the ignored war in Mexico and I don't believe anybody else running does.

We can hope that with restored order that some of them will go home, then we can give them incentives to go home and then we can throw out the stragglers. But until then, a fence or wall or whatever is not going to stop them, these people are running for their lives, not to get a $151 discount at Texas Jr. Colleges.

18 posted on 09/26/2011 5:39:59 PM PDT by txroadkill (Ghandi would have smacked 0bama in the head)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
who’s immigration package of political promises are very similar to that of Bush’s when he garnered the support of a significant part of the Latino community.

That is a completely rediculous assertion, which makes the article useless.

He has promised: to restart deportation of illegals; no path to citizenship; full border security with boots on the ground to prevent illegals entering the country; a fence where it works; NO DREAM ACT at the federal level; no sanctuary cities; and a strictly controlled guest-worker program that will ensure immigrants don't overstay their visas.

19 posted on 09/26/2011 5:48:40 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: napscoordinator

So, will you build the wall around the lakes and rivers on the Mexican side, thus seizing their territory and starting a war?

Or will you build the wall on OUR side, thus surrendering valuable water assets to a foreign country?

Neither sounds very conservative to me, but apparently you have a much better idea of what that means.

You might also explain how the many species of animals which depend on the water will get through your impenetrible fence. Or maybe they should just wither and die in the desert. Anything for “the wall”.


20 posted on 09/26/2011 5:51:54 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Actually polls show Ameircans who are Hispanic are not for illegal immigrantion. This is p.c. race bait nonsense from leftists. These self appointed tribal leaders are like the other diversity racists - they are socialists and will never vote for Republicans.


21 posted on 09/26/2011 6:10:07 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I don't put animals ahead of human needs. Our country is being taken over by these illegal criminals and needs to be dealt with. Perry is the problem. He whines just like Obama. I find them very similar. Not much of a difference between the two. God forbid if Perry wins and we hear for the next four years about how bad things were when he took over instead of being an adult and getting to work. Obama is like Perry he complains about Bush and what he was given instead of being an adult and getting to work. Both are the same to me.
22 posted on 09/26/2011 6:31:06 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Hi Charles!

It is at a cost of $4 million dollars per mile to build (not including maintenance and upkeep), but let's see what we could expect from a fence across our entire 2,000 mile border.

Our border fence at work

And I guarantee you, that no matter which side of the fence you stand on this issue (no pun intended, yes there was), you'll enjoy the music!

23 posted on 09/26/2011 7:10:48 PM PDT by casinva (The stock in McDonalds has just gone down because Obama has been serving up so many whoppers.)
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To: txroadkill
If Mexicans really need a bolt hole they have enough money to buy the force to invade El Centro America as well as Gran Columbia and do what they need to do.

It's not like they are totally helpless. They are against us, but not against the others.

24 posted on 09/26/2011 7:11:29 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: txroadkill

Thought you might like to see this.
casinva

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From: http://www.governorperry.com/blog/new-tv-ad-border/

Visit http://rickperry.org/issues/border-security to learn more about Governor Rick Perry’s record on border security issues.

Below is the script of the ad and highlights of Gov. Perry’s record of providing support for our state’s efforts to secure the border. (click “Read more”)

“Border” Script:

“I’m Arvin West, Sheriff of Hudspeth County.”

“In the last two-and-a-half years, Governor Perry has helped secure this Texas border.”

“There is not a governor in the United States that has done the efforts that Governor Perry has done to ensure that this border is secure and the citizens of the state of Texas are secure.”

“Folks from Washington, when they come to the border, they want to take pictures. It’s a photo opportunity for them.”

“When Governor Perry steps on this border, he’s here to take care of business.”

“Governor Perry is the only one that has stepped up to help us do our job.”

Gov. Perry’s Record of Support for Border Security:

In 2005, Gov. Perry announced a comprehensive border security plan for Texas and awarded $6 million in grants to support Operation Linebacker, an initiative developed by the 16-member Texas Border Sheriff’s Association to deter illegal immigration and prevent border-related crime.

(SOURCE: “Gov. Perry Awards $6 Million to Border Counties for Border Security,” Office of the Governor press release, 11/6/05, http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/2558)

In February 2006, Gov. Perry announced the launch of Operation Rio Grande, which provided state resources to support the efforts of local law enforcement, and in June 2006 announced that $20 million would be dedicated to sustain and expand Operation Rio Grande.

(SOURCES: “Gov. Perry Launches State-Led Border Security Operation,” Office of the Governor press release, 2/9/06, http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/2495; “Perry Authorizes More Border Security Funding, Virtual Border Watch Program,” Office of the Governor press release, 6/1/06, http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/4909)

In 2007, Gov. Perry signed legislation to provide $110 million in state funds to amplify border security efforts in 2007, and in 2009 he signed legislation providing an additional $116 million.

(SOURCES: HB 1, 80th Legislature, http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup/History.aspx?Le... SB 1, 81st Legislature, http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup/History.aspx?Le...)

In September 2009, Gov. Perry announced that Ranger Reconnaissance (Ranger Recon) teams would address the ever evolving threat along the Texas-Mexico border and the award of $2 million in state criminal justice funds to the Border Sheriff’s Coalition for continued utilization of video surveillance technology along the border. Comprised of Texas Rangers and Texas National Guard Counterdrug forces, the Ranger Recon Teams are supported by the Operation Border Star Unified Command, including Texas sheriffs, Highway Patrol strike teams and Department of Public Safety aviation resources. This effort was launched in early August to address the increased burglaries of rural homes, ranches and hunting camps in remote areas along the Texas-Mexico border.

(SOURCE: “Gov. Perry Announces Highly Skilled Ranger Recon Teams as Texas’ Latest Efforts to Enhance Border Security,” Office of the Governor press release, 9/10/09, http://www.governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/13577)

Operation Linebacker reduced the most serious types of crime by 65 percent in the unincorporated areas of the Texas-Mexico border, which accounts for 93.3 percent of the territory. In addition, the number of aliens apprehended crossing illegally into Texas has been reduced by 45 percent.

(SOURCE: “Texas Border Security Council Report to Governor Rick Perry,” 9/08, http://governor.state.tx.us/files/homeland/Border-Secur...)

Texas law enforcement agencies have worked with the U.S. Border Patrol for years to support the deportation of illegal immigrants. Since March 2006, Texas authorities have referred more than 42,000 suspected undocumented immigrants to the Border Patrol.

(SOURCE: Texas Department of Public Safety)


25 posted on 09/26/2011 7:28:10 PM PDT by casinva (The stock in McDonalds has just gone down because Obama has been serving up so many whoppers.)
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To: txroadkill

You nailed it. I am tired of people thinking they understand TX from a few sound bites and attacks during those so called debates. Well said.


26 posted on 09/26/2011 7:56:27 PM PDT by Grey Eagle
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To: napscoordinator

You don’t understand TX and you sure are misquoting Perry. Perry is NOTHING LIKE OBAMA! Perry has a resume and Obama has a teleprompter.


27 posted on 09/26/2011 8:00:47 PM PDT by Grey Eagle
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To: CharlesWayneCT
and a strictly controlled guest-worker program that will ensure immigrants don't overstay their visas.

Tell us more about Perry's support of a guest worker program. We all know Perry has pushed for a guest worker program for years, but I think we'd all like to hear more.
28 posted on 09/26/2011 8:56:22 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Latinos will vote for someone who can improve the economy. All this Dream Act stuff is unecessary.


29 posted on 09/26/2011 9:28:51 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: Grey Eagle

I think they are very similar. Both complain and don’t do. Perry has been crying about Obama not helping him with immigration.....But he was governor for 10 YEARS when the Republicans had ALL 3 parts of government. He is a total fraud. If he cared about illegal immigration in 2003, he would have been screaming about it and getting the congress who had control to do something about it. HE DID NOT CARE and probably was glad he did not have too. Why you give him a pass on this is beyond me.


30 posted on 09/26/2011 9:46:01 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: af_vet_rr
Here is a 2006 governor's release on the subject. Although it is rather old, and doesn't say what he would do as President:

A Better Way to Secure the Border:

I would rather know who is crossing our border legally to work instead of not knowing who is crossing our border illegally to work. A guest worker program that provides foreign workers with an ID removes the incentive for millions of people to illegally enter our country. It also adds those workers to our tax base, generates revenue for needed social services and it can be done without providing citizenship.

So long as we are going to have legal immigration, the best way to do so is with a strict guest-worker program. What we have now is a sieve, with people getting green card visas, coming into the country, and then getting lost in the woodwork. A large number of currently illegal immigrants actually came here with a legal visa, and overstayed their welcome.

A fence won't stop this -- they come through the secure checkpoints. What WOULD stop this is a Canadian-style guest program; they require companies to offer jobs to people before they come, and to take responsibility, and to provide the return ticket as part of the job offer.

They also require companies to offer the jobs publicly, so canadians have first crack at them. That should also be part of our guest worker program.

I don't understand the opposition to a guest worker program, except for those people who are generally against immigration. If we are going to allow some people into the country to do work, we need to control it better.

31 posted on 09/26/2011 10:04:18 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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