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Huckabee: Perry 'not prepared ... looked dumbfounded'
Politico ^ | 9/24/2011 | Alexander Burns

Posted on 09/25/2011 11:48:10 PM PDT by grassboots.org

Mike Huckabee, the former presidential candidate and certified non-fan of Rick Perry, says the Texas governor isn't ready for the 2012 primetime.

Perry's latest debate performance showed he is "not prepared for the pressure of the presidential stage yet," Huckabee said on Fox News Saturday. "Rick Perry's got a struggle ahead of him."

Huckabee compared Perry to 2008 presidential candidate Fred Thompson, who entered the race late to huge anticipation and quickly ran out of steam. During that campaign, Huckabee sought Perry's endorsement, only to see his neighboring governor back Rudy Giuliani.

The former Arkansas governor said Perry fumbled the debate question about his support for giving in-state college tuition to the children of illegal immigrants. Perry's problem, Huckabee said, was that he positioned himself "really in opposition to the [GOP] base."

"Rick Perry could have answered that in a way that could have defused it," Huckabee said. "We’re not talking about people who just showed up to go to college, we’re talking about people we educated in our schools."

Instead, Huckabee jabbed: "He just looked dumbfounded."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/64321.html#ixzz1Z2Qt8jT3


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Arkansas; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: debates; heartless; huckabee; immigration; perry

1 posted on 09/25/2011 11:48:18 PM PDT by grassboots.org
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To: grassboots.org
Well there goes Arkansas....
2 posted on 09/25/2011 11:52:30 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: grassboots.org

“Rick Perry could have answered that in a way that could have defused it,” Huckabee said. “We’re not talking about people who just showed up to go to college, we’re talking about people we educated in our schools.”

huck had his own problems with us heartless conservatives


3 posted on 09/25/2011 11:53:21 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Cain all the way)
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To: grassboots.org

Seems like Huckabee, Perry, and Gingrich are all “damaged goods” in that they’ve done something in office or in their private life that betrays a serious error in judgement on their part.


4 posted on 09/25/2011 11:57:36 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: ari-freedom

Yes, all that brain power of huckster shinning through, his advice was, you need to learn to lie better.


5 posted on 09/26/2011 12:01:26 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: grassboots.org

My mom always told me that if you can’t say anything good about someone, don’t say anything at all.
I have NOTHING good to say about HUCKABEE, or his buddy OBAMA. I don’t believe anything good as ever come from with Arkansas or Illinois. Both trash states. I live in California right now and this state is just as bad, if not worse, than them.


6 posted on 09/26/2011 12:01:51 AM PDT by Nitehawk0325 (Death sentences should be carried out within 60 days of convictions)
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To: grassboots.org

Perry is awful.


7 posted on 09/26/2011 12:02:38 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: grassboots.org

Perry endorsed Giuliani?! Hardly a conservative choice.


8 posted on 09/26/2011 12:02:48 AM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: grassboots.org

9 posted on 09/26/2011 12:06:03 AM PDT by Borough Park
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To: grassboots.org
Fred Thompson is one of my favorite people to follow on Twitter. He regularly belts them out of the park!

It's like Twitter was made for him. LoL!

10 posted on 09/26/2011 12:09:57 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: org.whodat

Hahahahahahahaha! too true!


11 posted on 09/26/2011 12:18:02 AM PDT by Irenic
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To: org.whodat

“Yes, all that brain power of huckster shinning through, his advice was, you need to learn to lie better.”

Exactly. He had no problem with the content.


12 posted on 09/26/2011 12:21:09 AM PDT by ari-freedom (Cain all the way)
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To: org.whodat; ari-freedom
Yes, all that brain power of huckster shinning through, his advice was, you need to learn to lie better.

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13 posted on 09/26/2011 12:25:16 AM PDT by Doofer ("If debt is the problem, how is more debt the solution"?)
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To: org.whodat

Of course, you lie, when you suggest that Huckabee’s answer is a lie. At least in Arkansas, and I assume Texas, those who go t the in-state tuition had to go to schools in the state all four years of high school.


14 posted on 09/26/2011 12:39:58 AM PDT by grassboots.org
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To: Nitehawk0325

Yes, Nitehawk0325, nothing good ever came out of California.

Now where is it you say you are from, now?


15 posted on 09/26/2011 12:51:10 AM PDT by grassboots.org
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To: grassboots.org
Not all Texans are as dumbfounded as they look.
16 posted on 09/26/2011 12:52:44 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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To: grassboots.org

You need to work on the reading thing. I said hucksters advice was to lie better. And illegal is illegal. You and perry have a problem with that little fact.


17 posted on 09/26/2011 1:02:23 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: MARTIAL MONK

It may be the Huckster saying it but it's the truth.


18 posted on 09/26/2011 1:02:59 AM PDT by Staff Of Moses
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To: org.whodat

There you go again. What lie was Huckabee suggesting?


19 posted on 09/26/2011 1:05:36 AM PDT by grassboots.org
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To: grassboots.org
Three other posters replied to me, they all understood what I said, you did not, and that is not my problem. It is the old, “ you can lead a horse to water, but you cannot force him to drink”.
20 posted on 09/26/2011 1:16:53 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: org.whodat

Man, I hate bots. Bushbots, Perrybots, Palinbots, even Cainbots. They just can’t see what’s right in front of their own eyes.


21 posted on 09/26/2011 1:24:03 AM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Fred Thompson is one of my favorite people to follow on Twitter. He regularly belts them out of the park!
It’s like Twitter was made for him. LoL!

________________

Checked it out.
LOL some good zingers


22 posted on 09/26/2011 1:55:44 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: grassboots.org

Maybe Perry cant lie like Huckleberry or Mitt for brains.


23 posted on 09/26/2011 2:01:27 AM PDT by crz
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To: Borough Park

My Lord, did they rob a barber shop quartet for those shirts?


24 posted on 09/26/2011 2:03:18 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous
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To: Armedanddangerous

My Lord, did they rob a barber shop quartet for those shirts?

Looks like they needed twelve shirts to do the job


25 posted on 09/26/2011 3:03:34 AM PDT by RaginRak
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To: Armedanddangerous

I haven’t seen that many lines on a highway. ;-)


26 posted on 09/26/2011 3:05:28 AM PDT by Average Al (Forbidden fruit leads to many jams.)
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To: skr

“Perry endorsed Giuliani?! Hardly a conservative choice.”

I caught that too. Sounds like a VICIOUS personal attack by Huckabee...at least to Perry supporters. LOL.


27 posted on 09/26/2011 3:08:03 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: grassboots.org

“Of course, you lie, when you suggest that Huckabee’s answer is a lie. At least in Arkansas, and I assume Texas, those who go t the in-state tuition had to go to schools in the state all four years of high school.”

Three years in Texas. Jump the border at age 15 and you’re set for in-state tuition, and I’m sure LOTS of other goodies (like free English instruction, or at least bi-lingual English), and who knows what else.


28 posted on 09/26/2011 3:09:51 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: grassboots.org

IF ANYBODY WOULD KNOW - - - - - IT WOULD BE THE HUCKESTER


29 posted on 09/26/2011 3:15:43 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Cold War Veteran. . . . US Army Security Agency 1964-1968)
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To: grassboots.org

How come nobody is mentioning Ricardo Pherry’s Mehhiccan baggage train and all his little Sharia Muzzie buddies?
THAT ALONE means he’s toast.


30 posted on 09/26/2011 3:57:22 AM PDT by Flintlock (Photo ID for all voters--let our dead rest in peace.)
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To: ari-freedom

“Man, I hate bots. Bushbots, Perrybots, Palinbots, even Cainbots. They just can’t see what’s right in front of their own eyes.”

As one who endured YEARS of Bush bots excusing away any and every bit of big government nonsense pushed forward by Dubya, I heartily second your sentiments. Those blind cheerleaders sully FR and are a disgrace.


31 posted on 09/26/2011 4:09:25 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: grassboots.org
"Huckabee sought Perry's endorsement, only to see his neighboring governor back Rudy Giuliani."

Now, that there is a VERY interesting factoid. I think that says all that needs be on whether or not Perry is "really" conservative......the answer is, apparently, NO!

32 posted on 09/26/2011 4:52:41 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: BobL
Actually your parents would have had to bring you here. I would love to hear the solution to this problem assuming you understand the power the state government has to deal with illegal immigration.

Texans already have spent 400 million of our own tax dollars to secure America's border with Mexico. It wasn't Rick Santorum's Pennsylvania or Michelle Bachmann's Minnesota that kicked that in all though if they could get their state to alot 400 million apiece we could have Texas Rangers all over the border helping the border patrol. Ah but it's easier to go to the border once and scream like a maniac and make outrageous claims.

Rick Perry is against amnesty and for securing the border and for a path to citizenship, just like Palin and all the rest of the serious candidates. He just happens to know what the border is like, unlike those candidates who live on the Canadian border.

33 posted on 09/26/2011 5:05:36 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: grassboots.org
How many hit pieces a day does this Obama-Soros front group cook up on Perry or whoever threatens Obama ??

Why did you post this propaganda here ?

This is a Soros media front group employing former Soros staff !

Now , we are letting the Obama media pick our candidate ?

34 posted on 09/26/2011 5:09:46 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: Borough Park

Ol’ Huck sure feeds good down in Arkansas.


35 posted on 09/26/2011 5:11:36 AM PDT by Big_Harry (Ecc10:2 "A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left")
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To: grassboots.org
Thanks again Huckster for teaming up with McCain in 2008 and helping get this America hating Marxist in the WH !

It figures this idiot would let a Obama left wing media outlet use him to trash a fellow Goper so Obama could win.

36 posted on 09/26/2011 5:14:41 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: grassboots.org
..on this one, Huck is right

Mr. Cain, on the other hand, looks in command

But I still think I see a Sarah Palin candidacy on the horizon...

37 posted on 09/26/2011 5:22:06 AM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: normy
I would love to hear the solution to this problem assuming you understand the power the state government has to deal with illegal immigration.

Duncan Hunter had part of the solution but good old Texas' Kay Bailey H. voted NOT to fund it!

We have a working example of how the right fence works in CA.

38 posted on 09/26/2011 5:27:20 AM PDT by CAluvdubya
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To: grassboots.org

Perry’s problem isn’t a poor debate - there’ll be others and I have no doubt he’ll prepare better next time.

His problem isn’t in-state tuition for illegals. That IS a big problem, but every candidate has flaws, even big ones, and he could have mitigated this with assurances that he wouldn’t try to translate this to the Fed level...

His problem, is that he called us heartless. That’s both indefensible and locks in his position on the issue in a way such that HE cannot backtrack without being the heartless SOB he accused us of being.

That one accusation finished Perry’s campaign. He cannot effectively undo that insult without opening up serious credibility problems.

Yes, only a few people are paying attention right now, but in politics, we are the “influentials” - people turn to us for insight because they KNOW we study this stuff. His insult was and will continue to be damning.

Perry had his Howard Dean moment Thursday night. Conservatives aren’t going to forget that he questioned not just our personal morality, but the morality of conservatism as well.

His only chance is to prostrate himself in apology and plead that the insult was an unintentional case of unbelievably really bad nerves. Given his overall performance on Thursday, that’d be believable. He should have started that apology in the post debate spin room. It was that obvious a blunder, and several key staffers should be fired for failure to recognize it for the CLM (career limiting move) that it was.


39 posted on 09/26/2011 5:50:16 AM PDT by ziravan (Are you better off now than you were 9.4 Trillion Dollars ago?)
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To: grassboots.org

I’m not a big fan of Perry yet, but if RINOs like Huckabee have the long knives out for him, he might not be too bad a choice.


40 posted on 09/26/2011 6:52:32 AM PDT by wbill
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To: normy

You people keep throwing out that 400 million BS, where is the break down of the figure. What did they do add up the law enforcement budgets for every border county. That is what it sounds like.


41 posted on 09/26/2011 7:06:56 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: normy

You people keep throwing out that 400 million BS, where is the break down of the figure. What did they do add up the law enforcement budgets for every border county. That is what it sounds like.


42 posted on 09/26/2011 7:07:57 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: CAluvdubya
Compare the tiny border Cali has with the 1200 mile border Texas has. Then compare the number of illegals in each state. I would be interested to know what that comes out to per mile.

There is no doubt some fencing works in some areas and especially in urban areas. It's just this 2000 mile fence idea is being thrown around by people who haven't thought it out all the way and are letting their emotions get the best of them.

43 posted on 09/26/2011 11:04:01 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: grassboots.org

Texas??


44 posted on 09/26/2011 2:46:19 PM PDT by Nitehawk0325 (Death sentences should be carried out within 60 days of convictions)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

45 posted on 09/27/2011 9:25:20 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Michael Moore: Aggressively Hypocritical and Smug About It.)
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To: Borough Park

Add insult to injury, why did they have to wear those shirts!


46 posted on 09/27/2011 6:45:33 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: normy

No “path to citizenship”, that is just another name for amnesty. I don’t want 20 million illegals and their 50 million children and their 100 million grandchildren voting in OUR elections ever! That would be stealing our country right out from under us, can’t you understand that?


47 posted on 09/27/2011 6:53:54 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: cradle of freedom

It’s not exactly, but every single candidate is for a path to citizenship. That is the facts. What is your soution?


48 posted on 09/27/2011 7:18:30 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: normy
My solution to the illegal alien problem would be to transfer responsibility from ourselves to where it really belongs, onto the illegal aliens themselves. They and their supporters have laid a guilt trip on us, we should not accept this. We should wash our hands of the problem and say — illegals it is your problem you solve it. You untangle the knot. We cannot tend to their every problem, they have to take care of that.

Attrition is the way to go. Use e-verify and crack down on all of the government freebies. When they cannot find jobs or get government benefits, they will start leaving. A serious national discussion of this with law enforcement will let the illegals know that their time is up. They have been enabled by the cheap labor plantation owners and the cheap vote politicians. When they begin to realize that we are serious this time, they will begin to leave. This will take a while as the political debate will take a while. Illegals will be following the debates, as the debate heats up, more illegals will get cold feet and will head back home. Some will hang on longer but will change their minds as more and more of their friends head home. Illegals have a huge communication network which consists of Spanish media as well as their families and friends. They will be following the political proceedings with apprehension, when it starts to become more evident that we will definitely crack down on illegal immigration, the exodus will begin.

We have been afflicted with a false conscience due to the endless guilt trips foisted upon us by the greedy exploiters of illegal labor and the pandering politicians. When we refuse to be guilt-tripped by these self-interested manipulators, we will declare our independence from the illegals. We own them nothing. They owe us.

Here are some guilt trips that the illegal alien lobby lays on us:

1) We will be separating families. Well, what do you think immigration does? Immigration is about leaving your homeland and family. It is painful but most immigrants have not had the luxury of bringing 120 extended family members with them to keep them company.

2) How will we round up all those millions of illegals? They can pack up and leave on their own. They came here on their own and they can leave on their own.

3) What about the illegals who were brought here as children? It is unfortunate that there are people who have lived here into their adult years because their families brought them here as children. However, we did not put them in this dilemma—their parents did and we are not morally obligated to get them out of the dilemma. Even if we tried, it would be such a huge mess trying to sort it all out and we would need an army of new bureaucrats to address the problem. Think of the corruption. When Reagan gave 3 million of them amnesty, there was lots of fraud as more illegals came into the country to take advantage of the amnesty. These people have been mooching off of us and taking advantage of our good nature for years. We have to stop being chumps. Getting back to the illegal adult children of illegals, I think it would be okay for them to apply for a temporary work visa, that would allow them to stay in the United States for say, five years as they go through the process of applying for legalization. They must go to immigration lawyers and pay for the process with their own money. There will be a glut of these applications going through the system, we might add some more judges to speed the process along, but they will have to do this process individually. There should be no mass amnesty.

49 posted on 09/27/2011 9:01:02 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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