That makes about as much sense as this
Posted on 09/14/2011 9:50:21 AM PDT by nuconvert
Zuhdi Jasser is an Arizona medical doctor, a U.S. Navy veteran, and founder of the American Islamic Foundation for Democracy, and a co-founder of the American Islamic Leadership Coalition, which opposes the political goals of the Islamists in the Muslim Brotherhood’s U.S. network of political groups. He’s testified before Congress on the goals and influence of the brotherhood groups, who use a mix of politics and violence to slowly build Islamist neighborhoods, towns and governments in the Arab world, in Europe and the United States.
Q. Where were you on 9/11, 2001?
I was in Phoenix. I had finished my tour in the Navy after 11 years and I was in private practice. I was getting ready to go to a clinic in my office, but by the time I was ready, I saw the TV. My first reaction — it was the American and the naval officer in me — was to find who did this and make them pay and get them. Once I learned it was done by Muslims, I realized that this was going to be a tipping point for a lot of the problems and conflicts of modernity in the Muslim community.
Q. When did you first see a conflict with the Islamic political movement, or Islamism?
Growing up among four Muslim families in Wisconsin, we had no political Islam. When I got to the University Wisconsin-Milwaukee, I saw the Muslim American Society at work, saw the sermons were all political, studied on the Muslim Brotherhood groups and found myself in conflict with all of them. I gravitated towards the more spiritual [non-political] Asian Muslim groups, Indonesians and Malaysians, and away from the [politicized] Arab groups.
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Sure they can. All they have to do is reject the Koran’s and Haditha’s teachings on Jews, Infidels, Jihad, Shari’a, etc.
Of course, once the do that, they’re apostates and subject to being killed by real Moslems.
That makes about as much sense as this
I gravitated towards the more spiritual [non-political] Asian Muslim groups, Indonesians and Malaysians, and away from the [politicized] Arab groups.
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Oh yes
everyone knows the Asian (Pakistani) and Indonesian Moslems arent political or violent towards non-Moslems...
Wheres Bali again ???
Wheres Mumbai ???
Maybe the “can”, but they won’t.
Maybe they “can”, but they won’t.
Too bad you missed the point of him discovering MAS pushing islamism on University of Wisconsin campus in 1980’s - as they are to this day.
The sad part is that before, say, the mid-to-late 90s, there were a number of Muslims in the US who were just like everyone else. I had friends in the 80s who were Muslim and they were fairly conservative (as in a “US conservative”, not a religious conservative) and treated their religion like Christians treat our religion—its a part of life but not a political statement.
I have seen Jasser speak and have read interviews and seen programs with him in the past. He strikes me as a typical American who loves his country and is horrified that his religion has become political in the same way many Christians are horrified by Phelps’ “God Hates Fags” protests in the guise of Christianity. Sadly, though, Jasser is becoming a minority within his community.
Of course, once the do that, they’re apostates and subject to being killed by real Moslems.”
Who cares what islamists label them?
Pray for the good Doctor’s safety. Something tells me he is gonna need a steel collar once this article gets translated into Arabic.
The labels aren’t the problem.
The fatwahs, followed by knives, bullets, and explosives are.
Dr. Jasser has been speaking out on TV, radio, as a public speaker, and thru newspaper & magazine articles and his organization, AIFD, for about 8yrs.
He’s used to the death threats.
I forgot to add that I almost feel sorry for him...almost.
Who or what is OYM?
That’s ObamaYaMoma.
A regular poster over at FPM.com
Please understand that I wasn’t implying that towards you what-so-ever.
OBM sounds a lot like a Liberal mouthpiece for CAIR.
Furthest thing from it.
Here’s another regarding jihad and terrorism:
Actually, you have been inculcated to conflate jihad with terrorism by the lamestream media.
In any event, terrorism is politically based, is always perpetrated by political extremists for any number of political causes, and always involves violence against civilian non-combatants.
Meanwhile, jihad, on the other hand, is always Islam based, is waged only by mainstream orthodox Muslims as opposed to political extremists as in the case of terrorism, is always in the cause of Allah, can be both violent and non-violent, unlike terrorism which is always violent, and is always directed against unbelievers, both civilian non-combatants and military combatants.
Moreover, in stark contrast to terrorism, which usually consists of only isolated events like the recent Breivik terrorist attack in Norway, jihad, on the other hand, has been taking place perpetually around the world for almost 1400 years continuously and is specific only to Islam.
In fact, the sixth and most important pillar of which Islam stands makes it an obligatory duty in Islam for each and every Muslim to fight jihad in the cause of Allah. It doesn’t make it an obligatory duty only for EXTREMISTS and it doesn’t make it an obligatory duty only for RADICALS. Instead, it makes it an obligatory duty in Islam for ALL MUSLIMS to fight jihad in the cause of Allah, no exceptions.
Thus, all jihadists, whether of the violent variety or of the non-violent variety, per Islam’s sixth and most important pillar, are MAINSTREAM ORTHODOX MUSLIMS as opposed to political extremists as is the case with terrorism.
Hence, ALL MAINSTREAM ORTHODOX MUSLIMS are jihadists. A few of them are violent jihadists, but most of them are non-violent stealth and deceptive jihadists, and the ones that are not jihadists are not Muslims at all but blasphemous apostates that must be executed per the dictates of Islam.
In addition, the most important difference between jihad and terrorism is that jihad, in stark contrast to terrorism, can also take place via non-violent means. In fact, the non-violent varieties of jihad relative to the violent varieties of jihad take place exponentially far more prevalently. Indeed, it’s not even close.
However, because jihad and terrorism are conflated together as being the same thing, the non-violent varieties of jihad take place completely undetected and unopposed, and this manifestation is analogous to the West being oblivious to Soviet espionage during the Cold War. Had the West been oblivious to Soviet espionage during the Cold War the same way it is oblivious to the non-violent varieties of jihad today, the West would have lost the Cold War.
Indeed, an example of stealth and deceptive non-violent jihad in action taking place completely undetected and unopposed would be mass Muslim immigration to the West and other non-Muslim countries for the purpose of demographic conquest. An example of stealth and deceptive non-violent terrorism in action taking place completely undetected and unopposed is there are no such examples because terrorism, in stark contrast to jihad, always only involves violence. Yet somehow it is invariably conflated with jihad.
Thus, please forgive me for not being duped by our federal government and the lamestream media the same way you have been, as it is not semantics at all but instead very important differences that must to be understood if we are to successfully combat the global jihad. In fact, like a loon GWB declared war on terrorism despite the fact that Muslims never ever perpetrate terrorism and despite the fact that all jihadists are never extremists but instead MAINSTREAM ORTHODOX MUSLIMS.
Indeed, conflating jihad with terrorism is as stupid as believing that Islam is a so-called Religion of Peace™ being hijacked by a tiny minority of extremists, as if Islam is just another innocuous religion instead of what it really is – a supremacist theo-political totalitarian ideology that seeks to subjugate the world into a very draconian form of Islamic totalitarianism via the imposition of sharia, or that we can actually win the hearts and minds of Muslims, which is another fantasy based political correct assumption that our two incredibly counterproductive nation-building missions in Afghanistan and Iraq were based on. Hence, if you want to continue making major strategic blunders, then remain stupid. I don’t care!
He has a way with words that I choose to cut through in order to get at the ADD population.
I’d call it verbose bs.
To each his own.
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