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Rick Perry Needn't Sweat His Global Warming Skepticism
Forbes ^ | August 30, 2011 | Larry Bell

Posted on 08/30/2011 1:27:35 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Washington Post op-ed writer Richard Cohen is concerned that “Climate Change May Be Ruin of Perry Campaign.” Far less clear was whether he regards that imminent ruination to be a bad thing, or rather, a cause for celebration. There are excellent reasons to suspect the latter.

Cohen doesn’t hold a very high opinion of the Texas governor, of anyone who doesn’t buy into the notion of a looming global man-made global warming disaster, or of Republicans. Referring to Perry in an Aug. 22 Washington Post article, he opined “It’s not his thinking I fear, it’s the lack of any at all.”

Cohen observed that “[Perry] occupies the cultural and intellectually empty heartland of the Republican party.” The article scorned Perry for publicly stating that he stood with an increasing number of scientists who have challenged the existence of man-made global warming threats, commenting “…whoever they (italics noted) might be. In Appleton, Wis., Sen. Joe McCarthy’s skeleton rattled a bit.” His reference to McCarthy went on to elaborate that “The late and hardly lamented demagogue pioneered the use of the concocted statistic” in suggesting that communists were literally everywhere. He further amplified “There were some, of course, just as there are some scientists who are global warming skeptics, but these few – about 2% of climate researchers – could hold their annual meeting in a phone booth, if there are any left. (Perhaps 2% of scientists think they are).”

This would require a pretty big phone booth,.....

Since 2007 more than 31,000 American scientists from diverse climate-related disciplines, including more than 9,000 with Ph.D.s, have signed a public petition announcing their belief that “…there is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause...

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: agw; capandtrade; climatechange; economy; perry; perry2011; rickperry; texas
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1 posted on 08/30/2011 1:27:41 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; RoosterRedux; jonrick46; deepbluesea; RockinRight; TexMom7; potlatch; ...
Perry Ping....

IF you'd rather NOT be pinged FReepmail me.

IF you'd like to be added FReepmail me. Thanks.

2 posted on 08/30/2011 1:30:01 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’m a Palin supporter but I must comment....CW, you are a tenacious one women army.


3 posted on 08/30/2011 1:31:23 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: traderrob6

I’ll take that as a nice compliment.


4 posted on 08/30/2011 1:32:33 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: traderrob6

Yes, CHEERS for CW!!!


5 posted on 08/30/2011 1:32:59 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

You are a precious one! Thank God for you!


6 posted on 08/30/2011 1:35:16 PM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“...Cohen doesn’t hold a very high opinion of the Texas governor, of anyone who doesn’t buy into the notion of a looming global man-made global warming disaster, or of Republicans...”

Yup, Cohen is a mental giant, all right. I still remember him sitting next to me in my grad quantum class....NOT.

Cohen is as dumb as...a democratic president.


7 posted on 08/30/2011 1:36:17 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Whether global warming is true or not, any cap & trade tax legislation is going to wreck the economy worse than it already is. I firmly believe the EPA is shutting down coal fired electric plants in order to try and get people to agree to some kind of cap & trade legislation. Then the coal fired plants will be allowed to continue to operate, as long as they pay the tax (passed onto the consumer, of course).


8 posted on 08/30/2011 1:37:37 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

St Rick isn’t bragging about that $3 billion in windmills these days.


9 posted on 08/30/2011 1:39:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The GOP has been "moderated" into a coma.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
“... just as there are some scientists who are global warming skeptics, but these few – about 2% of climate researchers – could hold their annual meeting in a phone booth, if there are any left.”

Ironically, anyone making such a statement demonstrates their complete ignorance of the philosophy of science, the scientific method, and the history of science.

Every major scientific advancement, throughout history, has come at the expense of the previous “scientific con census”.

10 posted on 08/30/2011 1:39:43 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

con census = consensus


11 posted on 08/30/2011 1:40:45 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

On second thought — in this case “con census” is the correct term.


12 posted on 08/30/2011 1:42:21 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
con census = consensus

It certainly does.

13 posted on 08/30/2011 1:43:12 PM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I hate to be on the fence but.. I think it is possible to be a skeptic of AGW, while not being a denier. I think it might be possible, theoretically, and there is some data that suggests that it might be happening, but I am not convinced. I do think its something to keep an eye on however.


14 posted on 08/30/2011 1:43:50 PM PDT by Paradox (Obnoxious, Bumbling, Absurd, Maladroit, Assinine)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"I think there is a path to citizenship for those young men and women ILLEGAL ALIENS who have served their country," Perry said.

THEIR COUNTRY?! Perry thinks America is THEIR COUNTRY?!
Perry wants to give ILLEGAL aliens citizenship

In 2001, Perry signed into law the very first Texas “Dream ACT.” It allowed the children of illegal immigrants to pay in-state tuition at any Texas university. Perry defended the Texas “Dream ACT,” saying, “To punish these young Texans for their parents' actions is not what America has always been about.”

Perry then jetted off to Mexico and bragged to the Mexicans that Texas passed this law, saying, “The message is simple, educacion es el futuro, y si se puede.” Education is the future, and yes we can.
Rick Perry’s immigration problem

The number of illegal immigrant college students paying in-state tuition and receiving financial aid at Texas' public colleges and universities continues to climb, according to state higher education records.
Number of illegal immigrants getting in-state tuition for Texas colleges rises

In February 2007, Perry signed a shocking executive order forcing every sixth-grade girl to submit to a three-jab regimen of the Gardasil vaccine. He also forced state health officials to make the vaccine available "free" to girls ages 9 to 18. The drug, promoted by manufacturer Merck as an effective shield against the sexually transmitted human papillomavirus (HPV) and genital warts, as well as cervical cancer, had only been approved by the Food and Drug Administration eight months prior to Perry's edict.

Perry defenders pointed to a bogus "opt-out" provision in his mandate "to protect the right of parents to be the final authority on their children's health care." But requiring parents to seek the government's permission to keep an untested drug out of their kids' veins is a plain usurpation of their authority. Translation: Ask your bureaucratic overlord to determine if a Gardasil waiver is right for you.

Libertarians and social conservatives alike slammed Perry's reckless disregard for parental rights and individual liberty. The Republican-dominated legislature also balked. In May 2007, both chambers passed bills overturning the governor's unilaterally imposed health order.
Perry's vaccine order exposed lapse in political, policy judgments Rick Perry’s Superficial Extremism The Texas governor’s record doesn’t live up to his rhetoric.

“The Gardasil debacle is just one of many concerns a wide range of grass-roots conservative activists have about Perry’s record as governor. He’s soft on illegal immigration despite a few recent nods to border enforcement. He’s prone to crony capitalism. And as the vaccine mandate scandal shows, he demonstrated Nanny State tendencies that are anathema to Tea Party core principles.

Once again, the Perry campaign proves my point about the non-walkback-walkback. If Perry “erred on the side of life,” what his campaign continues to suggest is that those who opposed his Gardasil mandate from the beginning chose death. Instead of renouncing the human shield demagoguery he engaged it after the repeal, the Perry campaign has doubled-down. There is nothing — nothing — Tea Party about this.

The Gardasil debacle is a useful red flag on Perry’s basic political instincts, judgment, core values, and trust. It is no surprise — given his ties to Merck — that Perry is a consummate practitioner of corporate welfare “public-private partnerships.
Plumbing the rest of the Perry record

Perry’s campaign website lists the Trans-Texas Corridor as one of his accomplishments. But is it something Perry really wants broadcast as an achievement? The Texas Republican Party’s 2010 platform includes a plank specifically opposing the Trans-Texas Corridor.
Rick Perry's NAFTA Superhighway Problem

VIDEO Perry compares Giuliani to Reagan

VIDEO: Perry thanked by Vicente Fox for illegals in-state tuition


15 posted on 08/30/2011 1:44:06 PM PDT by South40 (Perry: There is a path to citizenship for ILLEGAL ALIENS who have served THEIR country)
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To: South40
Gov. Perry Announces TEF Investment in Solar Power Company

AUSTIN – Gov. Rick Perry today announced the state will invest $1 million through the Texas Enterprise Fund (TEF) in HelioVolt Corp. of Austin for the construction of a 125,000 square foot manufacturing facility and development space to test and produce the company’s thin-film solar power cells, which convert sunlight into electricity. The deal will create nearly 160 jobs and $62 million in capital investment.

HelioVolt Corp. puts off growth. Plant is ready but demand not there yet

After months of stealthy operations, solar cell maker HelioVolt Corp. has delayed by two years its job creation projections.

Gov. Rick Perry: Wind Energy Keeps Texas' Air Clean and Our Future Bright

Texas doesn't just believe in the potential of wind energy, we are reaping its benefits already. People who talk about wind energy as a technology of the future clearly haven't been to West Texas lately: the future of wind energy in Texas is now. I probably don't need to spend too much time talking about the benefits of wind energy to a bunch of people who specialize in this remarkable technology, but a few things really stand out for me. I am proud that our state's installed wind generation capacity leads the nation, a place we did not reach by accident.

(snip)

Just last year, nearly $3 billion worth of wind-powered electric generators were installed, twice as much as any other state. This addition of more than 1,600 megawatts of capacity bumped up our total wind capacity by 59 percent. And the hits keep on coming. For example, this afternoon, one of the world's largest manufacturers of alternative energy equipment is announcing a new research facility here in Houston. And I recently got word that Hill Country Wind Power has acquired the Wind Turbine Company and is moving their manufacturing operations from Bellevue, Washington to the Lone Star state. With progress like this, I am confident we'll hit the next milestone, 10,000 megawatts, or 10% of our current capacity, well before the deadline in 2025.

16 posted on 08/30/2011 1:49:07 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The GOP has been "moderated" into a coma.)
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To: South40

QUIT...trolling the Perry threads with all your same old garbage...thank you.


17 posted on 08/30/2011 1:50:42 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: All

Does anyone EVER read the spam-bots’ bullsquat? I never have and never will, how about you folks....show of hands?


18 posted on 08/30/2011 1:51:37 PM PDT by Grunthor (Perry.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Global warming is a collectivist scam.

Social Security is a collapsing Ponzi scheme.

“Quantitative easing” is treason.

By my count the RINO cowboy dummy is three for three.


19 posted on 08/30/2011 1:53:06 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Grunthor

>> “Does anyone EVER read the spam-bots’ bullsquat?” <<

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No, I just read your first line and quit.


20 posted on 08/30/2011 1:53:40 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Sarah Palin - 2012 !)
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To: cripplecreek

Oh, look, you dribbled something down the front of your spam. Better zip up.


21 posted on 08/30/2011 1:55:29 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: South40
How many losers does it take to spam a thread?

Looks like two.

22 posted on 08/30/2011 1:57:06 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: shield
Anyone reading a RINO Mitt Perry thread deserves to get all the information on RINO Mitt Perry, not just what you Perry apologists want them to see.

And I am not a troll. That distinction has been bestowed on the originator of this thread.

Have a nice day.

23 posted on 08/30/2011 2:00:39 PM PDT by South40 (Perry: There is a path to citizenship for ILLEGAL ALIENS who have served THEIR country)
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To: Paradox

>> “I think it might be possible, theoretically, and there is some data that suggests that it might be happening”

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And which data would that be?

There aren’t even any data that indicate any increase in temps happened at all, outside of confined urban space that is artificially heated. When all the missing Siberian stations are simulated, there appears to be considerable cooling going on.

Or are you still clinging to the fudged Hadley CRU ‘data?’


24 posted on 08/30/2011 2:01:09 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Sarah Palin - 2012 !)
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To: Paradox

Well there is certainly a whole lot of evidence available as well as uncertainty of what that evidence means. It seems to me the High Priests of Global Warming are actually more the deniers than the sceptics.


25 posted on 08/30/2011 2:02:17 PM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: shield

Information is not trolling; it is balancing your disinformation.


26 posted on 08/30/2011 2:02:58 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Sarah Palin - 2012 !)
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To: editor-surveyor
Information is not trolling; it is balancing your disinformation.

Spot on.

27 posted on 08/30/2011 2:05:46 PM PDT by South40 (Perry: There is a path to citizenship for ILLEGAL ALIENS who have served THEIR country)
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To: Deb

So things coming directly from St Rick’s own website are now spam? LOL


28 posted on 08/30/2011 2:06:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The GOP has been "moderated" into a coma.)
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To: Deb

>> “Looks like two.” <<

you’re not pregnant, are you?


29 posted on 08/30/2011 2:06:40 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Sarah Palin - 2012 !)
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To: cripplecreek

Texas is the energy capital of the US. There’s no reason we shouldn’t be looking at all forms of energy production to reduce our dependency on foreign oil.


30 posted on 08/30/2011 2:06:55 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That’s the way it was intended.


31 posted on 08/30/2011 2:07:51 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: South40
Trolling is obvious by your posting of the same old same old, we've seen continually. That is called trolling.

We do not troll Palin threads...so stop trolling on Perry threads.

32 posted on 08/30/2011 2:08:54 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: shield; jonrick46
Thank you. That's very nice.

Now, Cohen trying to make Perry into Joe McCarthy is interesting to me.

Seems McCarthy got things pretty right and as we can see, the new communism is green environmentalism -- consensus science to control the masses. It's Lysenkoism named for Trofim Lysenko [Stalin's pet environmentalist who was allowed to kill skeptical scientists]

It's in our government, in our schools, in our churches -- it affects what we can buy, what we can do, how we think and where we can go.

Global warming, cooling, change, disruption -- whatever they call it today or will call it tomorrow -- it's purpose is to control you (by the way, in case you hadn't noticed, environmentalism is being slowly change over to being called conservation -- which is what true "stewards" of the natural world around us have always considered themselves - conservationists, so the "greens" are changing their discredited brand and co-opting a respected one).

The Left is gearing up to "McCarthy" Rick Perry because he called out scientists who demand our belief in global warming with ginned up the data and are doing it for money and control.

Cohen finds Rick Perry's position dangerous, as we need government to make rules about this and we need to have international cooperation.

Could it be any clearer folks?

Perry: “We are fed up with being overtaxed and overregulated. We are tired of being told how much salt we can put on our food, what windows we can buy for our house, what kinds of cars we can drive, what kinds of guns we can own, what kinds of prayers we are allowed to say and where we can say them, what political speech we are allowed to use to elect candidates, what kind of energy we can use, what kind of food we can grow, what doctor we can see, and countless other restrictions on our right to live as we see fit.”

33 posted on 08/30/2011 2:09:29 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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CERN has demonstrated that the sun’s magnetic field is responsible for decreased cosmic rays, which reduces cloud formation. Global warming is a result of the sun’s activity.

See the following article: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100102296/sun-causes-climate-change-shock/


34 posted on 08/30/2011 2:09:29 PM PDT by LOC1 (Let's pick the best, not settle for a compromise.)
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To: smokingfrog
Texas is the energy capital of the US. There’s no reason we shouldn’t be looking at all forms of energy production to reduce our dependency on foreign oil.

Even the kind we know doesn't work. If its so damn good, you folks should be bragging it up.
35 posted on 08/30/2011 2:10:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The GOP has been "moderated" into a coma.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Pregnant with possibilities, my darling.


36 posted on 08/30/2011 2:10:25 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: editor-surveyor

Yes, it is. When it becomes the same old same old over, and over and over and over...that is trolling.


37 posted on 08/30/2011 2:10:49 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: smokingfrog

Solar PV generation takes over 15 years to break even, and then the panels only have 5 years of their estimated life left.

Bad decision.


38 posted on 08/30/2011 2:11:07 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Sarah Palin - 2012 !)
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To: LOC1

Correct....Related:

http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2011/08/lawrence-solomon-science-getting.html


39 posted on 08/30/2011 2:11:32 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: shield

No, if the threads keep on getting posted, then the necessary info needs to be reposted; that’s just common sense.


40 posted on 08/30/2011 2:12:58 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Sarah Palin - 2012 !)
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To: shield
Yes, it is. When it becomes the same old same old over, and over and over and over...that is trolling.

And how many times has this same old garbage about Rick Perry fighting the warmists been posted?
41 posted on 08/30/2011 2:14:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The GOP has been "moderated" into a coma.)
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To: Deb

That’s our Deb! :o)


42 posted on 08/30/2011 2:17:30 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Sarah Palin - 2012 !)
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To: cripplecreek

Actually, I thought this was the first time.


43 posted on 08/30/2011 2:18:59 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: cripplecreek; RED SOUTH

Not near as much as the spew from you, RED SOUTH etc.

As someone who is behind Palin 1st, I’m embarrassed for you and some of your ilk. Frankly I doubt Sarah would be proud of your support, I know I’m not.


44 posted on 08/30/2011 2:20:11 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: shield

Then why the fear over hearing the other side of the story form Perry’s own official website?


45 posted on 08/30/2011 2:21:34 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The GOP has been "moderated" into a coma.)
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To: shield
As I have said, readers deserve to know ALL the information there is about RINO Mitt Perry, not just the heaps of praise you RINO supporters foist upon them.

I have had many FReepers tell me they didn't know the things about RINO Mitt Perry that they read in my posts. I know you RINO Mitt Perry apologists don't want them to see it but they deserve to know the truth about a man who is pro-ILLEGAL alien, pro-amnesty RINO Mitt Perry.

And this has nothing to do with Palin, so there was no reason for you to even bring up her name. But if you want to post what you deem a nagative about her in a Palin thread, I'm sure you are free to do so.

46 posted on 08/30/2011 2:22:15 PM PDT by South40 (Perry: There is a path to citizenship for ILLEGAL ALIENS who have served THEIR country)
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To: Grunthor
Does anyone EVER read the spam-bots’ bullsquat? I never have and never will, how about you folks....show of hands?

I did at first, but after the 1,000th time...

47 posted on 08/30/2011 2:25:01 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: cripplecreek
Why aren't you bitching at T. Boone Pickens? He's the one who invested millions in the twirly things until he realized there was no way to bring the energy from the twirly fields to the cities.

But every mistake isn't a sign of evil, if it was Sarah wouldn't have supported Perry.

48 posted on 08/30/2011 2:26:39 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: shield

Agreed! CHeers! :)


49 posted on 08/30/2011 2:28:58 PM PDT by Chandalier (You say Obama, I say O-blame-o!)
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To: Deb
Why aren't you bitching at T. Boone Pickens?

I wasn't aware he was running for president.
50 posted on 08/30/2011 2:29:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The GOP has been "moderated" into a coma.)
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