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Christie: Climate change is real
Politico ^ | 8/19/11 | MAGGIE HABERMAN

Posted on 08/20/2011 6:50:40 AM PDT by Libloather

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To: Libloather

I long ago abandoned any hope of Chris Christie being a conservative that I could support in the 2012 presidential election. This kind of nonsense is one reason why. It’s too bad Ann Coulter decided to support a RINO that has zero chance of winning the Republican presidential nomination.


51 posted on 08/20/2011 8:07:17 AM PDT by Jim Scott ( "Game On!" - Sarah Palin)
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To: Libloather

Another RINO bites the dust. Globull warming and thinking muzzies are great. Two good reason for Christie to stay in New Jersey.


52 posted on 08/20/2011 8:08:06 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Libloather

Chrisitie is nothing but a loud mouth, fat fraud. The guy talks a good game when it comes to unions but that’s it. Furthermore, when he does attack union representatives it’s usually some wimpy guy representing the teacher’s union or a female teacher. I’ve never seen him get in the face of a true union thug. He is a bully by all accounts.


53 posted on 08/20/2011 8:10:48 AM PDT by Abbeville Conservative (Sarah Palin, the only cure for the RINO virus.)
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To: MinuteGal
" Many of us figured he'd stick his foot in his mouth sooner or later when his latent liberalism would pop out despite his best efforts".

Hahaha.......agreed!

54 posted on 08/20/2011 8:13:15 AM PDT by mickie
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To: Libloather

Climate Change IS real. 16,000 Years ago, New Jersey was covered by a mile DEEP Glacier.

It melted. Not man’s fault. Period.

When that Glacier decides it wants to come back, are we going to pay people to release CO2 to save New Jersey from being scraped off the map?

Take the fork out of your mouth, Christie and stick it in yourself. You are done.


55 posted on 08/20/2011 8:13:41 AM PDT by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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To: Libloather
Christie: Climate change is real

Yes, anyone knows climate change is real. It's just that the doctrine that man is the cause of climate change that can only go in one bad way (well, whichever way is convenient to argue the point) is crap.
56 posted on 08/20/2011 8:15:13 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Libloather
“Change” in global climate is certainly real.

There have been times in human history, and way way before it, of dramatically different global climate.

There are three real questions.

Is it going up or down?

How much does human activity influence it?

And is this a good thing or a bad thing?

Now when I was very young they were saying it was cooling and it was going to be disastrous and man was most certainly to blame - capitalism especially.

Now they are saying it is warming and it is going to be disastrous and man was most certainly to blame - capitalism especially.

The Medieval warm period seemed to be good times and good wines for all involved - are they growing grapes in England again yet - or is it not yet that warm?

57 posted on 08/20/2011 8:16:10 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: MCH

Note from info below that Chris Christie not only believes in global warming (aka AGW / anthropogenic global warming), he stands strongly for government control of our society so as to reduce greenhouse emissions.

From: http://climatecrocks.com/2011/05/27/gop-gov-chris-christie-i-am-running-for-president-in-2016-we-have-an-obligation-to-reduce-our-greenhouse-gas-emissions/

GOP Gov. Chris Christie: “We have an obligation to reduce our Greenhouse Gas emissions.”

May 27, 2011

Excerpts from url above

Surveying the reality-free Tea Party freak show that is the current republican presidential field, Christie has opted out. And he has fired the first shot of his 2016 campaign by committing himself to a program of free-market incentives for combatting climate change, reducing greenhouse emissions, and accelerating New Jersey’s development of renewable energy and conservation.

(snip)

• “..Our commitment continues to combatting climate change, and looking for new, clean, and cleaner energy sources..”

• “ ..we’re committed to putting in place policies that actively work to decrease greenhouse gas emissions, and achieve the 22.5 percent Renewable Portfolio Standard target by 2021..”

(snip)

• “The cleanest energy is the energy that you don’t use… the state has to lead in terms of conservation, and so we’re going to lead by example on energy efficiency.”

• ”we remain completely committed to the idea that we have a responsibility as a state to make the environment of our state, and the world, better..

• “…we have an obligation to reduce our greenhouse gas emissions.”

(End of excerpts)

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If you are having a hard time believing Chris Christie would believe in global warming and government control of cities and individuals to reduce greenhouse emissions, see the two videos posted at the link on this post. You’ll be sickened.


58 posted on 08/20/2011 8:16:27 AM PDT by casinva (If Rick Santorum kisses Romney while charging after Perry, I want my nice words about him back.)
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To: Libloather
Idiot. Liberals aren't going to vote for you no matter what you say about Climate Change. You're only costing yourself votes.

Which, come to think of it, is probably a good thing for America. Christie might be good on the fiscal issues but I have a feeling he'd nominate nothing but Left-Wing Hacks for Judgeships.

59 posted on 08/20/2011 8:16:27 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Libloather
well thank you for participating... now stay in Jersey and STFU.

Next RINO please....

real simple litmus test... How do you feel on the global warming scam?

Abortion?

Owning a weapon?

those three things tell you if they believe in life, liberty and the constitution or are quisling, cowardly traitors.

60 posted on 08/20/2011 8:20:32 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat, they sh#t on.)
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To: Libloather; All
Yes, 'climate change real' and worrying about 'sharia' encroachment is "crap".

. . .and no signs of enlightenment per his convictions.

61 posted on 08/20/2011 8:27:49 AM PDT by cricket (Osama - NOT made in the USA. . . .and Obama, not madhttp://atlasshrugs2000e in the USA either.. .)
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To: Libloather; All
Yes, 'climate change real' and worrying about 'sharia' encroachment is "crap".

. . .and no signs of enlightenment per his convictions.

62 posted on 08/20/2011 8:27:49 AM PDT by cricket (Osama - NOT made in the USA. . . .and Obama, not madhttp://atlasshrugs2000e in the USA either.. .)
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To: Libloather

Bye bye Chris. I really liked your attitude but now you’ve screwed up big time.


63 posted on 08/20/2011 8:28:28 AM PDT by upchuck (Rerun: Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: Mikey_1962

Oh come now, you know it was George Bush and his time/weather machine that started all this 10,000 years ago.........


64 posted on 08/20/2011 8:29:57 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Libloather; Genesis defender; 4horses+amule; Carlucci; Little Bill; Desdemona; Nipfan; ...
Chrissy We Hardly Knew Ye

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

65 posted on 08/20/2011 8:30:12 AM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: Libloather

He’s toast. Absolutely unelectable.

Anyone who jumps on a bandwagon when the wheels have clearly fallen off the bandwagon is politically tone deaf.

If he’s thinking of running for President, he should stop now.


66 posted on 08/20/2011 8:33:59 AM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: casinva

Here’s a May 2011 article on New Jersey’s support of and participation in the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative (RGGI):

http://reepedia.com/archives/1413

(Excerpt / Intro):

NEW YORK (May 26, 2011) — New Jersey residents solidly support the state’s participation in the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative, a program that generates jobs, revenue and investment in their clean energy economy, according to new Public Policy Polling (PPP) survey results released today by the Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC).

(End of excerpt)


67 posted on 08/20/2011 8:39:46 AM PDT by casinva (If Rick Santorum kisses Romney while charging after Perry, I want my nice words about him back.)
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To: Libloather

Economy Change is real too. And the economy will get much colder when the “green scientists” have their way. The devastation will be much worse than anything envisioned by Al Gore. (Well maybe not, Al can envision alot.)


68 posted on 08/20/2011 8:55:08 AM PDT by omni-scientist
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To: Libloather

Yes, there’s spring, summer, fall and winter!


69 posted on 08/20/2011 9:07:31 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: Libloather

Its not good for me to hate people and get all emotional but Christie is showing us his liberal side.

He was the more liberal candidate in the primary for Governor in 2009. Steve Lonergan was the conservative.

Still, I will admit that Christie was willing to take on the pay scales in education asking for a teacher pay freeze and capping the salaries of school administration.

That was good.

He’s made his appearances at pro-life events as well to say he’s pro-life.

That’s OK.

But in other areas he is the RINO.


70 posted on 08/20/2011 9:09:42 AM PDT by Nextrush (President Sarah Palin sounds just right to me)
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To: Keith in Iowa
Climate change IS real - and has been happening cyclically since the dawn of time.

The issue is: Can humans cause it? Can humans make it better? Or worse?

This gets lost in the noise.

We should be asking these candidates what if anything they are going to do about "climate change". Then vote for the ones who say "I will do nothing".

71 posted on 08/20/2011 9:11:12 AM PDT by SteamShovel (Smart Grid is Stupid)
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To: Libloather

Climate change IS real.

Yesterday it was raining and today it’s sunny.

Soon it will get cold and later, it will get warm again.

We, out here in The Ignorant Wasteland call these remarkable phenomenon “The Weather” and “The Seasons”.


72 posted on 08/20/2011 9:21:21 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep...clowns will eat me.)
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To: Carry_Okie

“Humans can change climate on at least a local scale,. . “

That I can accept, and thank you for your post.

I would tell Christie that he can believe in all the phony scientific studies he wants, just don’t spend a dime of my money on cap and trade and more EPA regulations. You can believe what you want; just don’t use my money for your naive and unfounded belief systems.

What is not often discussed is that this global warming mania has resulted in more diplomas awarded in environmentalism than in physics and chemistry. And,thanks to global warming grants, these environmental researchers are making more money than the ‘hard’ scientists.

Sorry if I offended environmental researchers, but I will go with the words of Frances Bacon:

“Argumentation cannot suffice for the discovery of new work, since the subtlety of Nature is greater many times than the subtlety of argument.”


73 posted on 08/20/2011 9:27:11 AM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: Mikey_1962
We are in an Inter-Glacial period.

Has it warmed up over the last 10,000 years? Yes.

Was it caused by man? No.

Agreed - that's what REAL science says, not what the fraudulent, politically- and monetarily-driven "consensus" says.

Here's another question:

IF there is global warming, and IF it is a "bad thing," and IF it is caused mostly by mankind, and IF we can do something about it without crashing the already fragile and dying world economy (which crash would result in mass starvation and world war), then CAN IT BE DONE WITHOUT CHINA AND INDIA BEING SUBJECT TO THE SAME STANDARDS?

The answer is clearly, "No" - meaning that the proposed set of solutions to this non-problem is purely driven by politics and corruption, both with a heavy anti-US bias. Meaning that as a presidential candidate, Chris Christie makes a fantastic governor of the Peoples Republic of New Jersey.

Take note, Anne Coulter. You are on the cusp of being written off as a serious conservative if you keep talking up this guy.

74 posted on 08/20/2011 9:41:33 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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To: sillsfan

Other than his Youtube “me vs the teachers” videos, the only thing he’s good for is Gov of NJ.


75 posted on 08/20/2011 9:41:56 AM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: Libloather

Climate change is real. I mean yesterday it was 80 degrees sunny light breeze, and right now it is foggy 60 no wind.


76 posted on 08/20/2011 9:50:35 AM PDT by svcw
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To: Common Sense 101

I am in full agreement that climate change is real and I would add that only a fool would believe otherwise. The climate has been changing as long as there has been such a thing as climate. Where I part company with Christie is when he says that human activity is causing it or that there is man made global warming. The clowns have corrupted the language at every opportunity so that now it is assumed that climate change can mean only anthropogenic global warming, it is like saying that animal can only mean Kangaroo. Actually climate change could mean any one of a very long list of things, even non-anthropogenic global COOLING which seems to be what is actually happening and it is what was being predicted long before they switched over to the global warming hue and cry.


77 posted on 08/20/2011 9:54:44 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Oh, I’ve done a 360 on that.”
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Braun was just explaining that she is dizzy from going in circles.


78 posted on 08/20/2011 10:01:46 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Golleeee, thanks, I didn’t know that. Zero point zero is exactly how much money I have but I don’t want to buy Google, can I buy Ford with that?


79 posted on 08/20/2011 10:06:19 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: Libloather

Translation: I have financial ties to “Green” companies.


80 posted on 08/20/2011 10:07:20 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Libloather

It is real simple: Yankee + Republican = RINO.


81 posted on 08/20/2011 10:07:34 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Libloather

Climate change is as real as the changing of the seasons...

No, wait...What?


82 posted on 08/20/2011 10:13:27 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: nhwingut
I bet Perry backs off his statements too.

Don't count on it.

83 posted on 08/20/2011 10:15:47 AM PDT by wolf24
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To: olezip

I believe Christie is correct that human activity does/can impact global climate change just by virtue of being part of the Eco system. However, if Christie meant to imply that human activity is in any way a major or even significant contributor/cause to the climate change he was really off base and not even in in the ball park. He needs to clarify his position on this with creditable references. He also should explain his acceptance of Muslim friendship.


84 posted on 08/20/2011 10:31:42 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Libloather

Wobal glarming strikes down another great thinker. /s


85 posted on 08/20/2011 11:42:41 AM PDT by TauntedTiger (Keep away from the fence!)
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To: noinfringers2
I believe Christie is correct that human activity does/can impact global climate change just by virtue of being part of the Eco system.

Human activity can impact the local environment, but global climate change on Earth, Mars, Venus, and other planets is caused by the Sun. Mankind has zero measurable impact on global climate change.

Water vapor and clouds are the primary drivers of climate change, as driven by the Sun, whether it be cosmic rays or variations in solar radiation, or magnetic field changes, or distance from the Earth.

86 posted on 08/20/2011 12:18:24 PM PDT by olezip
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
If Christie gets into the race he will probably pull votes away from Romney.

So I say,go for it Christie!

87 posted on 08/20/2011 12:19:59 PM PDT by painter (No wonder democrats don't mind taxes.THEY DON'T PAY THEM !)
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To: Libloather

He’s borrowing from GA Jimmy who said in 1977 or 1978 “the energy crisis is real.”


88 posted on 08/20/2011 2:36:58 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Libloather

Governor Christie seems to have found a way to keep people from pestering him about running for president.


89 posted on 08/20/2011 4:48:18 PM PDT by Mobties (Reduce the government footprint! Let the markets work!)
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To: Libloather

IDIOT!!!


90 posted on 08/20/2011 6:36:59 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Libloather
I agree with Christie....

Climate change is real.

And human activity may have a role in that.

91 posted on 08/20/2011 6:41:17 PM PDT by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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92 posted on 08/20/2011 9:51:57 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (It's the Tea Party's fault!)
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To: Libloather

Well, the problem is he is stomping all over the message,

1. Climate always changes
2. Humans are part of the biosphere of the planet so it is impossible that they don’t have an impact

3. The real questions are,
a. how much does humans influence the climate? Is it practical to think that humans can through a behavior b. change mitigate their affect on it
c. for what benefit?
d. at what cost?

Perry’s answer to this complicated mess of questions of where exactly these greenie weanie arguments fell short to the simple “NO” it doesn’t exist.

Christi thinks he can’t say that, so he simply says “YES”

The majority of voters can’t deal with this, they want it baked down to yes or no. Perry honors them by doing this.

We conservatives have to know what he means by Yes and if that would mean anything significantly different between the two.

If Christi thinks that the changes to CO2 output will correct for any climate change, he fails the intelligence test.


93 posted on 08/20/2011 11:29:55 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Common Sense 101

That’s true, he says it as fact when it is nothing but his belief.

He doesn’t know enough to really know if it is real or not, he is going based on someone he trusts......that is what worries me.


94 posted on 08/20/2011 11:31:43 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Ancesthntr
Here’s a little publicized fact:

Carbon Dioxide portion of Greenhouse gases: 4%

Man made Carbon Dioxide: 3% of all Carbon Dioxide generated.

Green house gas reduction if all man made actions ceased: 0.12%

It is pure hubris to think that we affect the earth's temperature.

95 posted on 08/21/2011 6:13:27 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Christie: Climate change is real

Unicorns are real too,

96 posted on 08/21/2011 8:05:20 AM PDT by GOPJ (126 people were indicted for being terrorists in the last two years. Every one of them was Muslim.)
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