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Gov. Rick Perry’s relationship with Muslims may set him apart
Chron.com ^ | 8/15/11 | Kate Shellnutt

Posted on 08/15/2011 9:45:52 AM PDT by Nachum

Gov. Rick Perry’s friendly relationship with some Texas Muslims was touted in a recent story on Salon.com.

While some other presidential candidates bring up concerns about American Muslims’ loyalty and decry Islamic law in the U.S., here’s a Christian, Republican politician who initiated a teacher-training program on Islamic history and has been friends for years with the Aga Khan, head of an Islamic sect called Ismailis, Salon points out. Perry even laid the first brick at the groundbreaking ceremony for an Ismaili worship center in Plano in 2005.

According to Ismaili national spokesman Mahmoud Eboo, the premise of the Salon story is true, and despite criticism for his Christians-only prayer rally, Perry serves on behalf of all Texans “regardless of race, color or faith.”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dhimmi; formerdemocratperry; islam; muslims; obama; openborders; palin; perry; perrys; relationship; rick; rickperry; rino; taquiyya
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To: bigdaddy45

I think there is a difference between a historical reference to God commanding the Isrealites to displacet these tribes in a specific battle and to establish a promised land and a general policy of distrusting and attacking all christians and jews in modern day...what do you think?


41 posted on 08/15/2011 11:55:38 AM PDT by willyd (your credibility deficit is screwing up my bs meter...)
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To: wk4bush2004
Not all Muslims are evil and the hatred for Muslims has to stop, and this is coming from a Christian.

Not too strange coming from a Bush supporter since his family is close friends with the Saudi's.

Do your Muslim friends bring a Koran to your house? Will they let you take a Bible to their house?

Beware of ravenous wolves in she eps clothing.

42 posted on 08/15/2011 12:07:23 PM PDT by itsahoot (--I will still vote for Sarah Palin, even if she doesn't run--)
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To: nbenyo
I fail to see the problem. Is he not the governor of all Texans?

You are a clear example of how we have devolved our culture, Libertarianism always leads to Perversion, not that there is anything wrong with that. I guess.

43 posted on 08/15/2011 12:10:01 PM PDT by itsahoot (--I will still vote for Sarah Palin, even if she doesn't run--)
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To: bigdaddy45
However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes.

Care to finish, by explaining what happened as a direct result of this command being disobeyed?

44 posted on 08/15/2011 12:14:03 PM PDT by itsahoot (--I will still vote for Sarah Palin, even if she doesn't run--)
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To: PMAS
Perry can win the independents, Palin cannot ..

Wishful thinking has made you delusional.

45 posted on 08/15/2011 1:04:04 PM PDT by tomkat (youbetcha :-)
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To: Nachum

I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’m looking forward to another Muslim-friendly administration. **GAG** Bob


46 posted on 08/15/2011 1:17:11 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("I'll just go back to the dream I was having, before love went astray." Al Stewart)
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To: tomkat

delusional is thinking Palin CAN win over enough independents, when she does even poll that high with republicans.


47 posted on 08/15/2011 1:22:08 PM PDT by PMAS
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To: PMAS
delusional is thinking Palin Perry CAN win over enough independents, when s he does even poll that high with Texas republicans.
48 posted on 08/15/2011 1:41:30 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: itsahoot

“You are a clear example of how we have devolved our culture”

Perhaps you should “preserve our culture” by promoting an amendment to deny Muslims the right to vote.

Good luck with that.


49 posted on 08/15/2011 2:28:48 PM PDT by nbenyo
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To: Springfield Reformer

Its simple. Perry’s a politician. And Muslims vote. Thats why politicians do this sort of thing.


50 posted on 08/15/2011 3:40:49 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: nbenyo

Wrong question .

The problem is that islam doesn’t fit with the western judeo-christian civilization. Anyway he can have muslim friends bhut he should be clear about islam and make the difference with obama


51 posted on 08/15/2011 4:19:58 PM PDT by Ulysse
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To: PMAS
Yeah, because Independents will really go for this:

“I signed an executive order that allowed for an opt-out, but the fact of the matter is I didn’t do my research well enough to understand that we needed to have a substantial conversation with our citizenry,” he said. “I hate cancer. Let me tell you, as a son who has a mother and father who are both cancer survivors.”

Perry said he’d invested government resources in cancer cures, adding, “I hate cancer. And this HPV, we were seeing young ladies die at the early age. What we should have done was a program that frankly should have allowed them to opt in, or some type of program like that, but here’s what I learned — when you get too far out in front of the parade they will let you know. And that’s exactly what our legislature did…

The devil is in the details...Just what we need in the White House... another President who signs a health related law without reading about it first. SIGH...

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And there's more on Captain Gardasil:

Perry received $6000 from Merck for his campaign last year.

SOURCE

Like I said... another President who..., you know the drill.

The following are 14 reasons why Rick Perry would be a really, really bad president....

#1 Rick Perry is a "big government" politician.  When Rick Perry became the governor of Texas in 2000, the total spending by the Texas state government was approximately $49 billion.  Ten years later it was approximately $90 billion.  That is not exactly reducing the size of government.

#2 The debt of the state of Texas is out of control.  According to usdebtclock.org, the debt to GDP ratio in Texas is 22.9% and the debt per citizen is $10,645.  In California (a total financial basket case), the debt to GDP ratio is just 18.7% and the debt per citizen is only $9932.  If Rick Perry runs for president these are numbers he will want to keep well hidden.

#3 The total debt of the Texas government has more than doubled since Rick Perry became governor.  So what would the U.S. national debt look like after four (or eight) years of Rick Perry?

#4 Rick Perry has spearheaded the effort to lease roads in Texas to foreign companies, to turn roads that are already free to drive on into toll roads, and to develop the Trans-Texas Corridor which would be part of the planned NAFTA superhighway system.  If you really do deep research on this whole Trans-Texas Corridor nonsense you will see why no American should ever cast a single vote for Rick Perry.

#5 Rick Perry claims that he has a "track record" of not raising taxes.  That is a false claim.  Rick Perry has repeatedly raised taxes and fees while he has been governor.  Today, Texans are faced with significantly higher taxes and fees than they were before Rick Perry was elected.

#6 Even with the oil boom in Texas, 23 states have a lower unemployment rate than Texas does.

#7 Back in 1988, Rick Perry supported Al Gore for president.  In fact, Rick Perry actually served as Al Gore's campaign chairman in the state of Texas that year.

#8 Between December 2007 and April 2011, weekly wages in the U.S. increased by about 5 percent.  In the state of Texas they increased by just 0.6% over that same time period.

#9 Texas now has one of the worst education systems in the nation.  The following is from an opinion piece that was actually authored by Barbara Bush earlier this year....

•  We rank 36th in the nation in high school graduation rates. An estimated 3.8 million Texans do not have a high school diploma.

•  We rank 49th in verbal SAT scores, 47th in literacy and 46th in average math SAT scores.

•  We rank 33rd in the nation on teacher salaries.

#10 Rick Perry attended the Bilderberg Group meetings in 2007.  Associating himself with that organization should be a red flag for all American voters.

#11 Texas has the highest percentage of workers making minimum wage out of all 50 states.

#12 Rick Perry often gives speeches about illegal immigration, but when you look at the facts, he has been incredibly soft on the issue.  If Rick Perry does not plan to secure the border, then he should not be president because illegal immigration is absolutely devastating many areas of the southwest United States.

#13 In 2007, 221,000 residents of Texas were making minimum wage or less.  By 2010, that number had risen to 550,000.

#14 Rick Perry actually issued an executive order in 2007 that would have forced almost every single girl in the state of Texas to receive the Gardasil vaccine before entering the sixth grade.  Perry would have put parents in a position where they would have had to fill out an application and beg the government not to inject their child with a highly controversial vaccine. Since then, very serious safety issues regarding this vaccine have come to light.  Fortunately, lawmakers in Texas blocked what Perry was trying to do.  According to Wikipedia, many were troubled when "apparent financial connections between Merck and Perry were reported by news outlets, such as a $6,000 campaign contribution and Merck's hiring of former Perry Chief of Staff Mike Toomey to handle its Texas lobbying work."

Rick Perry has a record that should make all Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians and Independents cringe.

He is not the "conservative Republican" that he is trying to claim that he is.  He is simply another in a long line of "RINOs" (Republicans in name only).

If Rick Perry becomes president, he will probably be very similar to George W. Bush.  He will explode the size of the U.S. government and U.S. government debt, he will find sneaky ways to raise taxes, he will do nothing about the Federal Reserve or corruption in our financial system and he will push the agenda of the globalists at every turn.

Look, the truth is that another four years of Barack Obama would be a complete and total nightmare.

But so would four years of Rick Perry.

America deserves better than the "lesser of two evils".

Unfortunately, the American people have been dead asleep and have been sending incompetents, con men and charlatans to Washington D.C. for decades.

Hopefully things will be different in 2012.

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And then today, there's this lovely tweet:

@PeterHambyCNN Peter Hamby Perry on prospect of Palin candidacy: “She is a great friend and I hope she makes the right decision.”

So do we, Jimmy Rick:

RUN, SARAH, RUN!!!!


52 posted on 08/15/2011 4:51:17 PM PDT by rintense (ABO can KMA.)
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To: Lady Lucky; All
To all who may be concerned about Perry's relationship - or understanding - of Islam. Remembered something of this from a while back. It is here and more. (More than a few sources; including 'Jihad Watch'.) Also at American Thinker:

Not unlike Chris Christie; if not worse. . .

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/08/perrys_problematic_pals.html

53 posted on 08/15/2011 9:17:12 PM PDT by cricket (Osama - NOT made in the USA. . . .and Obama, not madhttp://atlasshrugs2000e in the USA either.. .)
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To: cricket

I can see this getting tedious.

I don’t much like Perry, but the attack on him via the article you posted is very lame.

The article is almost entirely about Norquist, and the only connection it makes to Perry is that Perry gave a speech about tax reform and job creation, with Norquist and his Americans for Tax Reform team standing behind him. The speech can be viewed here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NYHzcDcvSU.

The article links a Dallas Observer blogger who titled his piece “Rick Perry’s New Sidekick, Grover Norquist.”
That item is here: http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2011/03/rick_perrys_new_sidekick_grove.php

There is absolutely nothing in the article, “Perry’s Problematic Pals” that holds any water when it comes to the Aga Khan. Perry’s guilt by association is thrown, splat, and then the author moves on to talk about Norquist and the Norquist-Bush connection.

As for the Aga Khan, there are interviews and reports on youtube videos that any fair-minded person will want to find and absorb. I strongly recommend it.

For those who can’t be bothered, nothing I can write will illuminate anything, and I’m an anonymous writer.

I’ll just say that if a report offers nothing more informative on the Aga Khan or the Ismailis than a reference to the 12th c “Assassins,” you can be sure it’s written by a lazy and ignorant typist for the consumption of lazy and ignorant readers.

Looks like I’ll have more occasions to post this comment.

“First get informed.”


54 posted on 08/16/2011 7:12:03 AM PDT by Lady Lucky
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To: onyx

Thank you onyx, I have seen that. All that follows here is copied from another thread, but it is on the same subject.

I can see this getting tedious.

I don’t much like Perry, but the attack on him via the article [...] posted is very lame.

The article is almost entirely about Norquist, and the only connection it makes to Perry is that Perry gave a speech about tax reform and job creation, with Norquist and his Americans for Tax Reform team standing behind him. The speech can be viewed here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NYHzcDcvSU.

The article links a Dallas Observer blogger who titled his piece “Rick Perry’s New Sidekick, Grover Norquist.”
That item is here: http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2011/03/rick_perrys_new_sidekick_grove.php

There is absolutely nothing in the article, “Perry’s Problematic Pals” that holds any water when it comes to the Aga Khan. Perry’s guilt by association is thrown, splat, and then the author moves on to talk about Norquist and the Norquist-Bush connection.

As for the Aga Khan, there are interviews and reports on youtube videos that any fair-minded person will want to find and absorb. I strongly recommend it.

For those who can’t be bothered, nothing I can write will illuminate anything, and I’m an anonymous writer.

I’ll just say that if a report offers nothing more informative on the Aga Khan or the Ismailis than a reference to the 12th c “Assassins,” you can be sure it’s written by a lazy and ignorant typist for the consumption of lazy and ignorant readers.

Looks like I’ll have more occasions to post this comment.

“First get informed.”


55 posted on 08/16/2011 7:16:27 AM PDT by Lady Lucky
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To: sockmonkey

Don’t read Salon, it’s bad for you! :)


56 posted on 08/16/2011 7:18:31 AM PDT by Lady Lucky
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To: Nachum

I’ve had enough of Muslim lovin’and appeasin’ presidents.

“The first agreement in 2008 was a “wide-ranging” program designed to indoctrinate Texas children about Islam and Islamic culture. According to Salon.com, “Perry brokered a partnership between the University of Texas and Al-Husayni’s Aga Khan University in Pakistan for the purpose of expanding cooperation on programs including the Muslim Histories and Culture Project,” or MHCP. The purpose of the MHCP is to train high-school teachers on the positive aspects of Muslim history and culture.

Perry’s naive support for this program is disturbing, to say the least. At the signing ceremony, Perry stated, “I have supported this program from the very beginning, because we must bridge the gap of understanding between East and West if we ever hope to experience a future of peace and prosperity.”

In conjunction with the signing, Perry even requested the Texas A&M Aggie Corps of Cadets Ross Volunteer Company to do a sabre arch salute as part of a special ceremony for Al-Husayni arrival at the ceremony.

The glaring problem of course with this sentiment is that “bridges” normally go two ways. While Perry is expanding programs to teach American children about Islam, what is Al-Husayni doing about teaching Pakistani children about the glories of Christianity? Why is it that whenever these fabulously wealthy Muslim “philanthropists” ride into town to build bridges of understanding, it is always one-sided, always extolling the beauties of Islam?”

Read more: Rick Perry’s dangerous Muslim compromise http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=333701#ixzz1VCtTFCdQ


57 posted on 08/16/2011 8:44:25 AM PDT by dervish (out of Afghanistan NOW)
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To: Lady Lucky

“One mo time: advising people to read up on Aga Khan IV before commenting. He’s not your typical muslim.”

Or maybe he is.


58 posted on 08/16/2011 3:42:18 PM PDT by Valin
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To: Lady Lucky; All
Lady Lucky; agree with you that info offered is less than substantial - save for a few policy indicators.

That said, offered this as a 'talking point ' and as well a small - red - flag for future reference, should more flags arise . Think Repub Leadership doing a public disservice by pretending the only threat to our country is a degraded economy. We are allowing our own hostage situation by political correctness - just as our citizens were held hostage during Obama campaign i.e. legitimate criticism 'off' because of his race.

I want a candidate who sees a bigger picture and is willing to at least acknowledge the threat beyond the PC 'allowed'. Don't know that America can wait 'four more' before we can say in a critical, political campaign: "America says - NO - to sharia". (Which, by the way, some Texas Republicans are already saying.

Governor Perry has not weighed in yet, with his opinion. Am almost certain, that if he had to - he would not vote for it 's incorporation. Just would like to know ' for certain'.

(And same should be asked of ANY of our nominees, for that matter.)

59 posted on 08/16/2011 6:02:59 PM PDT by cricket (Osama - NOT made in the USA. . . .and Obama, not madhttp://atlasshrugs2000e in the USA either.. .)
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To: Valin
Or maybe he is

The man came to the title of Aga Khan in 1957. I don't think a "maybe" can be left standing, when there is over half a century of performance to evaluate.

(But I will not be doing anyone's research for them. Wouldn't help at all.)

FRegards, LL

60 posted on 08/16/2011 7:03:17 PM PDT by Lady Lucky
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