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U.S. Special Forces Killed as Taliban Shoots Down Helicopter
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 08/06/11

Posted on 08/06/2011 8:58:24 AM PDT by freespirited

A NATO helicopter was shot down in the eastern province of Afghanistan last night, killing 31 U.S. special forces and seven Afghan soldiers.

The aircraft, belonging to NATO's International Security Assistance Force, or ISAF, went down in the Maidan Wardak province, according to a statement from the office of Afghan President Hamid Karzai. The helicopter was completely destroyed, shot down by the Taliban, Shahidullah Shahid, a spokesman for the Maidan Wardak province said in a phone interview.

The incident marks the biggest single loss of life for U.S. forces in Afghanistan since operations began in 2001, Associated Press reported. Establishing the type of weapon used is key to gauging whether a new and more sophisticated threat has emerged in Afghanistan, Mark Pritchard, a U.K. Member of Parliament and vice-chairman of the Conservative Parliamentary Defence Committee, said by phone.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


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KEYWORDS: afghanistan; alreadyposted; ch47; specialforces
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To: Evil Slayer
The Chinook is great for transporting a large number of troops but in this case wouldn’t it had been safer to have used a few smaller and possibly stealth choppers like the one the Seals used to take out bin laden?

It has been used widely in Iraq and as part of Operation Enduring Freedom in mountainous Afghanistan, where the high altitude and temperatures have limited the use of the Black Hawk.

21 posted on 08/06/2011 9:33:02 AM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: expatguy

Absolutely not. We should go in there and carpet bomb anywhere even a single U.S. troop is killed, regardless the loss of enemy lives and property.

Kill people and break things until we win and they lose.

But first, the commie Lilliputians, who are tying down our Gulliver with their thousands of little ropes, have to be broomed from the places in our government, legislature, judiciary, and culture into which they have insinuated themselves to destroy us.

Brutal and ruthless. That should be us, for they will show us no mercy when they have completed their takeover of the planet, and especially our country.


22 posted on 08/06/2011 9:41:54 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: ImpBill

I agree. Bring them all home NOW!


I’m with you. Defending the world is missing creep.


23 posted on 08/06/2011 9:42:40 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: expatguy

Were it up to me, I’d evacuate Americans and then nuke every hilltop,valley, plain or bush in that 5th century sty. Just end them forever.


24 posted on 08/06/2011 9:44:58 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Psalm 144

If our military was allowed to take the gloves and handcuffs off their hands and be as brutal as necessary as needed we would have won every conflict since Korea.


25 posted on 08/06/2011 9:45:07 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Venturer
Bomb the Poppy fields and bring our young men home-—alive.

Yep! I'm for it.......but Obama simply is not going to do that any time soon.

26 posted on 08/06/2011 9:45:58 AM PDT by caww
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To: expatguy

NATO has written the rules of engagement. The whole Afghan war is being executed in the most unconstitutional manner imaginable, as is the Libyan conflict.

Shame on BOTH parties for allowing foreign governments and entities run a war using our fellow American citizens to execute it. They are not allowed to win, they’ve been told the war will go for 30 years. Just how does one set a deadline for a war so far distant? What is the purpose of a war that is meant to last for 30 years rather than to be won in the most efficient, tactical way to bring our fellow citizens home?


27 posted on 08/06/2011 9:47:05 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Venturer

“Bomb the Poppy fields and bring our young men home-—alive.”

Amen. We’ve gained nothing; we’ve lost more than can be quantified, especially when it comes to our soldiers. Bomb Iraq and Afghanistan. Pull our guys from Germany, Japan, et al., and let them defend themselves. We have absolutely no business being in any of those places. (The more we help them, the more they hate us.) The Constituion only provides for the defense of America, not every God-forsaken, spawn-of-Satan country on earth.

The money we give to Afghanistan is immediately schlepped by Afghan big-wigs on to planes in the form of cash in suitcases, and going... where?

It’s all disgusting. I want to puke.


28 posted on 08/06/2011 9:49:01 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("I know that God's tomorrow will be better than today!" A. H. Ackley)
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To: hedgetrimmer
What is the purpose of a war that is meant to last for 30 years rather than to be won in the most efficient, tactical way to bring our fellow citizens home

Power, Money, and political leverage.

29 posted on 08/06/2011 9:50:42 AM PDT by caww
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Without a doubt.


30 posted on 08/06/2011 9:51:37 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: freespirited; Lancey Howard
Prayers up for the families.

Devastating: 31 Special Operations Troops, Including 25 Navy SEALS, Killed in Afghanistan

31 posted on 08/06/2011 9:52:45 AM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: paratrooper82

“First and foremost, you never land on a [hot] LZ! the LZ is prepped to lay waste to any terrorist who may be waiting for you to show up and then shoot you!”

Ever hear about this guy named “Uriah the Hittite’?


32 posted on 08/06/2011 9:54:02 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Evil Slayer; Lancey Howard

The airframe is generally tailored for the mission. Since we don’t know what it was, we can’t 2nd guess their decisions...if that’s ever wise in the first place.

The Chinook is the fastest, has the longest range, has the highest ceiling, and is able to carry the biggest load in and the biggest load out.

It’s a mountainous region, and as stated, we don’t know the mission.


33 posted on 08/06/2011 9:55:54 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: freespirited

NATO? I’ll always be convinced there was a snitch in the bunch. They knew who was on this chopper and they knew where it was going to be.

Second, they shouldn’t even put out the word of who was on this chopper.


34 posted on 08/06/2011 9:56:27 AM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: freespirited

35 posted on 08/06/2011 9:57:38 AM PDT by yield 2 the right ( Space blank until I come up with a nice Tagline.)
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To: freespirited
obama’s BIG MOUTH cause this... obama is as guilty and the rag head that fired the hit that brought this copter down.

LLS

36 posted on 08/06/2011 10:02:32 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (juan mccain certified Al Palin Hobbit Terrorist)
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To: xzins

I was in the Marines in 1983 when the Beirut barracks was suicide-bombed killing 241 US servicemen, including 220 Marines. Even then my first thought (after prayers) was, “How could so many Marines be concentrated in such a big juicy single target in a war zone?”

On this smaller scale, I just think it was unwise to put so many of our best weapons - - the SEALs - - into one tiny box. I figured after the last time this happened, in June of 2005 when 19 SEALs were killed in a Chinook, better insertion strategies would be developed that didn’t put “all the eggs in one basket”. That said, I agree that I have no knowledge of this mission and am being presumptious to second-guess command decisions.

By the way, if you never read about Operation Red Wings, it is an astonishing story:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Red_Wings


37 posted on 08/06/2011 10:31:36 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: bigheadfred

This story (2005) will interest you, especially the part about the Afghan goat herders:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Red_Wings


38 posted on 08/06/2011 10:33:03 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: dawn53
My sister just called me and said that she heard on TV (didn’t say which channel) that it was Seal Team 6...anybody else heard that, or is it a rumor.

I heard the same thing on FOX about an hour ago. Makes me sick.

39 posted on 08/06/2011 10:51:29 AM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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To: rushmom
The report from the media this morning said it was a crash.

I read that NATO reported it that way initially.

40 posted on 08/06/2011 10:52:25 AM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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