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Govt officials: US expecting S&P downgrade -- based on "serious mistake" in analysis*
ABC News ^ | 5 Aug 2011

Posted on 08/05/2011 5:04:57 PM PDT by mandaladon

Two government officials tell ABC News that the federal government is expecting and preparing for bond rating agency Standard & Poor’s to downgrade the rating of US debt from its current AAA value.

Official reasons given, one official says, will be the political confusion surrounding the process of raising the debt ceiling, and lack of confidence that the political system will be able to agree to more deficit reduction. A source says Republicans saying that they refuse to accept any tax increases as part of a larger deal will be part of the reason cited. The official was unsure if the bond rating would be AA+ or AA.

A third official says that S&P made a "serious mistake" in its analysis, "based on flawed math and assumptions," so the Obama administration is pushing back. But even though "S&P has acknowledged its numbers are wrong, it's unclear what they're going to do.," the official said.

S&P refused to comment.

Because of the pushback, the Obama administration is preparing for the downgrade but is not 100% positive it’s going to happen, officials said. And if the downgrade does happen, officials are not sure when it will happen.

Before ratings agencies issue a downgrade, there is often some back and forth that goes on behind the scenes. Treasury Department officials have been making the case for months that S&P should not downgrade US debt.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.abcnews.com ...


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WTF! I thought Obama wasn't going to let this happen.
1 posted on 08/05/2011 5:05:00 PM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

Idiots! On both sides!


2 posted on 08/05/2011 5:07:13 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: mandaladon

A source says Republicans saying that they refuse to accept any tax increases as part of a larger deal will be part of the reason cited.———

Doesn’t matter that it’s not the truth, it will be what’s cited...


3 posted on 08/05/2011 5:07:30 PM PDT by Freddd (NoPA ngineers.)
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To: mandaladon

What a surprise, they didn’t find out until document dump night.


4 posted on 08/05/2011 5:08:50 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: mandaladon

The analysis? The analysis is that the fedgov is not serious about tackling debt. Adding $10+ trillion in the next decade certainly won’t help.


5 posted on 08/05/2011 5:09:26 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: mandaladon

They were the last people on Earth to figure this out.


6 posted on 08/05/2011 5:09:33 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: mandaladon

Flawed math has nothing to do with Republicans not accepting tax hikes.


7 posted on 08/05/2011 5:10:42 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: mandaladon
I thought Obama wasn't going to let this happen.

He lied.

8 posted on 08/05/2011 5:11:25 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: mandaladon

The negotiation is about coordinating to pin it on the Republicans.

Remember, Obama couldn’t care less about the country. He is concerned about his power and his ideological goals.

If the Obama regime can negotiate with S&P to cite Republican intransigence on taxes as the reason for the downgrade, then a downgrade helps Obama.

If not, then a downgrade hurts Obama. That is the only calculus that matters for Obama.

And anyway, anyone paying attention to the debt, liabilities, revenues and economic deterioration does not need S&P to tell them how precarious the government’s financial situation is.


9 posted on 08/05/2011 5:12:17 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: mandaladon

Just got this tweet

BreakingNews Breaking News
S&P reconsiders US government debt downgrade after feds say raters’ calculations off by ‘trillions’ - CNBC


10 posted on 08/05/2011 5:12:39 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: mandaladon

Cut the fricken spending, stupid!! Meanwhile, the incompetent imbeciles Obama and Geithner continue borrowing, printing and expanding the government!! And the impotent Republicans limply acquiesce.


11 posted on 08/05/2011 5:13:03 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: mandaladon

Tea party candidates fault...somehow.


12 posted on 08/05/2011 5:14:13 PM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: skr

Flawed math has nothing to do with Republicans not accepting tax hikes.

Are you being “unexpectedly” smart?


13 posted on 08/05/2011 5:14:28 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: mandaladon
WTF! I thought Obama ...

WTF, as in Winning The Future? No?

14 posted on 08/05/2011 5:14:46 PM PDT by Don Carlos (Rope futures are looking good. Buy!)
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To: mandaladon
Anybody with half a brain and one eye open saw this coming...

This "deal" fooled nobody who actually knows what the hell is going on

The boat is taking on water and this deal just slowed the sinking by a few minutes.

One positive note if they really do downgrade us, MAYBE Congress will actually get their shi* together and actual start to govern according to the best interest of the nation instead of their party.(mostly libtards)

15 posted on 08/05/2011 5:16:42 PM PDT by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: EGPWS
He lied.
16 posted on 08/05/2011 5:18:47 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: mandaladon
Oh, S&P has commented all right:S&P Reconsiders U.S. Downgrade, Unidentified Official Tells CNN

"Ya shoor ya don't wanna reconsidah? I'd hate fuh sumthin unforchoonit to befalls ya...."

17 posted on 08/05/2011 5:19:27 PM PDT by _a_0_0_
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To: Freddd

Since S&P’s first comments and continuing comments is NOT about “deficit reduction” but reduction in the US actual debt obligations.... that is a reduction in the debt ceiling... one can surmise that this ENTIRE news item is

PURE PROPAGANDA to tee up blaming republicans.

This is straight from the playbook. S&P has been saying for some time, as has Moody’s that it is the DEBT.

The “deficit” is a govt. term to describe the difference between what the govt takes in in taxes vs. what it cannot control— ridiculous spending. Since the revenue, even IF taxes are raised will not be enough to enable the US to meet its debt obligations... S&P will downgrade.

obama and fellow marxists are gaming this. Pure BS.


18 posted on 08/05/2011 5:19:33 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Popman
MAYBE Congress will actually get their shi* together and actual start to govern according to the best interest of the nation instead of their party.(mostly libtards)

Only when there is nothing left but smoking ruins. And then they will blame the tea party and Sarah Palin.
19 posted on 08/05/2011 5:21:21 PM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: mandaladon

Sounds like Obama’s team is playing political games.

I’ll be interested in whether S&P goes along with this.


20 posted on 08/05/2011 5:22:08 PM PDT by Soul Seeker ( I was there when we had the numbers, but didnÂ’t have the pThey may feel bettrinciples.---Jim DeMin)
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