Posted on 08/01/2011 5:34:23 PM PDT by GreaterSwiss
Seeing anyone citing that quisling dhimmi at this point in the game is simply uninformed, at best. You just can’t fix stupid.
I still find it funny that a “Kick Allen West Out of Congress” thread is still active, while many threads showing video of Sarah Palin basically supporting West’s view are deleted on FR.
What does that have to do with a potential BBA vote in the Senate?
The BBA floor vote is written into the bill.
If you want to challenge me on being a true Conservative versus a RINO that is your prerogative but no one put you here to judge by you almighty who meets or does not pass your test, so just get over yourself
If I had my way I would clean house in Congress and start again, it was never meant to be an avocation but a responsibility for all of us to be able to do.
Since the BBA is vote is now completely decoupled, what chances do you see it getting through the Senate?
So? What did the debate accomplish?
That is the kiss of death!
The House gave the Senate a Bill, and should have kept giving them the same Bill until the Senate voted on it.
Instead, the House allowed the Senate and WH to dictate the terms, because they were afraid of passing the 'deadline'.
Isn't the view that charlie brown has when he is going to kick the football held by Lucy?
THIS time she won't pull it away.
LLS
Thank you FRiend.
LLS
NO argument here.
LLS
It will not... this same thing happened in the earlier CR that passed in the spring and we were also lied to then and that bill turned out to hurt the republicans and help the dims. boehner stated after it passed that it contain 27 billion in cuts... bottom line after accounting for the accounting tricks and outright lies used in the bill (same things fill this current bill)... the savings were but a few paltry millions.
These republican activists are continuing to attack Tea Party Patriots here on this very thread... all for sticking to Conservative Principles and not going along with the republican sellout DC style... hate to say it but there it is.
I have not and will not attack someone for thinking the opposite about this bill... but I will civilly debate the facts. I think the name calling and personal attacks on both sides of this argument are unnecessary and harmful to FR and our cause.
LLS
Hey, bfree, you got a savings account? Good, cut me a check for 100% of it and mail it. If I don’t receive it NOW I’ll enter into negotiations with you, and being a good “conservative” I will accept a “pay cut” over 10 years of just 340% of your savings vice 345%. Cut the check, I’m waiting.
I would say that he is on the fast track to becoming a RINO. I will give Boehner credit, he understood that West is one of the most visible of the TP freshmen and saw the benefit to flipping him quickly.
If, however, some day there is actually a party in the country that is truly conservative, I'll register for that. But till that day comes, INDEPENDENCE!
Yes I do know more than they do, Carling.
Do you?
Or do you simply bow down to their authority?
This bill raises the debt limit.
This empowers Obammie the Commie to borrow more.
They’ll borrow more which means the Fed will print more.
This newly printed money will be pushed out through the discount window to the primary borrowers at a nearly ZIRP (do you know what that stands for, Carling?).
Those primary borrowers (the biggest, fat-cat bankers and financiers like GS and JPM, do you know what they stand for, Carling?) will take that “free” money and use it to invest in the various markets, thus propping them up artificially (because all macro indicators point to the fact that we never left the first DEPRESSION, just masked it over. Do you know why we are in a DEPRESSION and not a RECESSION, Carling? Because app. 12% of our GDP has been artificially created by this print/borrow-and-spend FAILED economics of these SOCIALISTS/COMMUNISTS. If you remove that, we have greater than a 10% drop in GDP, which is a DEPRESSION).
The government wants their bed buddies at GS and JPM to prop up the markets with this new money THROUGH THE 2012 ELECTIONS because they all know that financial Armageddon is coming, and, when it does, THE PUBLIC-SECTOR UNION PENSION PLANS WILL COMPLETELY COLLAPSE, because promises to pay those fat-cat benefits and pensions was based on sky-rocketing equities markets. Do a Google on Rhode Island and public pension (hint: a city in RI is seeking bankruptcy to get out of their obligations to the public-sector unions because they can’t afford them).
Now that Obammie the Commie has another couple of trillion to spend, he MAY be able to float the economy through next year, just as he has done for the past two. He has failed these past two years and the economy has been pushed a little farther toward the end of the cliff.
This may NOT work because of the law of diminishing returns (do you know what that means, Carling?). The 4 trillion they have already spent has done nothing. Even the artificial pump to the equities markets is meaningless because it has been offset by the decline of the dollar, with which there is a nearly perfect inverse ratio over the past ten years.
If it does not coast the economy as they have been deluding themselves and others into believing for the past two years, THEY WILL PANIC AS 2012 gets underway. This will force them to spend faster and faster.
The rate of inflation has been somewhat mild compared to all the spending over the past couple of years. This is true for two reasons: 1. companies have been absorbing the higher costs by reducing their profit margin (not to be nice, but to survive) 2. the velocity of money has remained very low (do you know what this means, Carling?). It means that the money that was printed and “spent” in the markets never hit the streets. Those primary borrowers never loaned that money to businesses and individuals. So that money is sitting in investments making the banks billions (check out JPMs latest earnings report) and PROPPING UP FOREIGN CURRENCIES that are also collapsing because of this same monetary policy.
So, next year, the statists/socialists/communists will panic as the economy tanks even worse. They will spend faster. They will demand that ALL of this money be pushed out to the street. That flood of easy money will cause a very quick euphoria as everyone feels rich again for a few months.
After that, inflation will hit us harder than it has ever hit us before. We (the middle class) will be an entire caste of people that are scrounging for the basics. We will only be able to afford gas to get to and from work. We will purchase only that basic food necessities. We will not be able to travel as we once were.
If they can pull this off and coast us through 2012, Obammie the Commie will win a second term.
And then he will really unleash hell on America. Not like now, where he’s being kind of nice (because he wants to win re-election). He’s going to really, really make us suffer.
Of the new “darlings” of the conservative House...those new representatives that began their “careers” as a result of the 2010 mid-terms.....how many (and who) voted FOR this diaper full of sh!*??
Surprised me somewhat. But these are the times we live in.
Go through it and remove all of the "emoticon" adjectives/nouns ("fat-cat" for one) and phrases ("over the cliff" for one) and "all capitals".
The explanation would be every bit as visceral without them. We actually do "get it", but this is a very good explanation of what is happening fit for the general public.
Damn good job!
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