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Video: Rick Santorum Says He's Not "Fine" with SSM in New York [The real alternative]
National Organization for Marriage ^ | 7/28/11 | NOM

Posted on 07/28/2011 2:49:38 PM PDT by Antoninus

Sen. Santorum throws down a gauntlet to the other candidates on marriage:

"What New York did was wrong. I will oppose it. And I will go to New York if necessary and help overturn it....The 10th Amendment does not mean that states can do whatever they want whenever they want it..."

He seems to be referring to reports that Gov. Perry said he's "fine" with gay marriage in New York.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antirino; brassballs; profamily; prolife
I like this Rick better than the other one.
1 posted on 07/28/2011 2:49:45 PM PDT by Antoninus
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To: Antoninus

Me too!


2 posted on 07/28/2011 2:50:56 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Antoninus

LOL. I think it’s funny how he’s acting like he’s a relevant candidate. Cracks me up.


3 posted on 07/28/2011 2:52:46 PM PDT by Huck
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To: Antoninus
Should be HM . . . homosexual marriage . . . not "same-sex." Why does the media and everyone else, including Rush, Hannity, etc., continue this drivel about SS marriage? If they're homosexuals and proud of it, then call it so. I'm so fed up with this babblespeak.

They're a disgusting bunch of people with a very disgusting lifestyle that should proudly wear the badge of HOMOSEXUALITY.

4 posted on 07/28/2011 2:54:08 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: Antoninus

I too like Santorum better than Perry, but I agree with Perry on this one. Can’t have the 10th amendment only when it is convenient.


5 posted on 07/28/2011 2:58:09 PM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Antoninus

Rick Santorum and the G.O.P. had all three branches of government for years. Abortion is still legal. Gay “marriage” is on the march across the land.

I believe that the social issues are the carrot and social conservatives are the horse. They think if they ever give us that carrot, we no longer have a reason to vote for them.

No G.O.P. congress or White House will EVER outlaw abortion or gay ‘marriage’ or roll back the sham of gays in the military.


6 posted on 07/28/2011 2:58:09 PM PDT by Grunthor (Faster than the speed of smell.)
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To: wolfman23601

“Can’t have the 10th amendment only when it is convenient.”

Can we claim to love the Constitution but hate the 10th amendment?

;-)


7 posted on 07/28/2011 2:59:38 PM PDT by Grunthor (Faster than the speed of smell.)
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To: Grunthor
No G.O.P. congress or White House will EVER outlaw abortion or gay ‘marriage’ or roll back the sham of gays in the military.

No, and it is futile to even hope for it. It's all about the judges. Wouldn't matter what they enact if a judge overturns it. At least W gave us Alito and Roberts on the Supreme court. That's a start.

8 posted on 07/28/2011 3:10:12 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Grunthor
I believe that the social issues are the carrot and social conservatives are the horse. They think if they ever give us that carrot, we no longer have a reason to vote for them. No G.O.P. congress or White House will EVER outlaw abortion or gay ‘marriage’ or roll back the sham of gays in the military.

You nailed it. The GOP has been conning conservatives for decades. Perry's tactic is to invoke the 10th Amendment, while spouting "social conservative" rhetoric in Texas, where there is no risk.

9 posted on 07/28/2011 3:23:00 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: Grunthor
It usually comes down to the courts and their interpretation, like occurred last year:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2010/07/14/gay_marriage_amp_the_10th_amendment_237563.html

Here is the 10th Amendment which Gov. Perry bases his opinion:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

10 posted on 07/28/2011 4:01:12 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: wolfman23601

Here’s a result of Perry’s statement:

http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?id=122757


11 posted on 07/28/2011 4:04:52 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: Rational Thought

“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

And I am fine with that.


12 posted on 07/28/2011 4:05:19 PM PDT by Grunthor (Faster than the speed of smell.)
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To: Grunthor
And I am fine with that. With traditional values, so was I. I'm not happy with the Progressive interpretations which seem to keep stretching definitions to enact an agenda.
13 posted on 07/28/2011 4:13:08 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: Rational Thought

So you are ok with everyone having the same rights and responsibilities under the constitution so long as they make the choices that you would make or approve of?


14 posted on 07/28/2011 5:34:47 PM PDT by Grunthor (Faster than the speed of smell.)
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Good try!

I believe marriage, as defined by the majority of our society for the past 235 years, should be between a man and a woman. Not a man and a man, not a woman and a woman, not a couple of women and a man, not 10 women and 10 men.

A very liberal view and broad definition of the 10th or 14th Amendments is a slippery slope. Gay Marriage will just be a beginning.

15 posted on 07/28/2011 5:59:52 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: laweeks
Should be HM . . . homosexual marriage . . . not "same-sex." Why does the media and everyone else, including Rush, Hannity, etc., continue this drivel about SS marriage? If they're homosexuals and proud of it, then call it so. I'm so fed up with this babblespeak.

I agree with you! The others have been intimidated by political correctness and are simply adopting the first politically correct definition of it. Those who support it, the Left, are always careful to adopt the least offensive terminology.

Down with political correctness! It is designed to keep people like you from calling things as they are!

16 posted on 07/28/2011 8:23:26 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (I retain the right to be inconsistent, contradictory and even flat-out wrong!)
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To: Rational Thought

“Good try!”

Not trying anything, just asking a question.

“I believe marriage, as defined by the majority of our society for the past 235 years, should be between a man and a woman. Not a man and a man, not a woman and a woman, not a couple of women and a man, not 10 women and 10 men.”

This is also my opinion, but not for the same reason. Once these folks get married in some state that allows it, they will be moving to states that do not and will be challenging DOMA which the Obama administration will not defend. Basically they demand that you and I not just tolerate, but approve of them.

I do not however believe that we can say “I believe in and love the U.S. Constitution!” (except when it allows things to happen that I don’t like.”

My favorite amendment besides the 1st and 2nd is the tenth. I don’t want the federal government telling states what to do, even if it is something that I agree with.

I probably sound crazy but I blame that on lack of coffee and the fact that as I get older I tend to be sounding some of the time like a libertarian...”You leave me alone, I leave you alone, we’re all happy.” really appeals to me lately.


17 posted on 07/29/2011 7:36:29 AM PDT by Grunthor (Faster than the speed of smell.)
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I don't think you and I really disagree. I too trend towards ”You leave me alone, I leave you alone, we’re all happy.” The problem is this is a lifestyle choice which is not only being forced upon us, it's being rubbed in our face, all courtesy of a new judicial interpretation of the 10th Amendment (which the State of New York quickly utilized).

We don't live in a society which the majority rules. We live in a society which a politically powerful minority rules.

Sorry for misinterpreting your prior reply. My feelings of Gov. Perry's stance does annoy me. It seems like a perfect political answer in order to claim both sides of an issue.

18 posted on 07/29/2011 8:12:33 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: Grunthor

FYI

Perry apears to be walking back his prior statement.

http://race42012.com/2011/07/29/perry-retreats-on-marriage/


19 posted on 07/29/2011 8:40:52 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: Rational Thought

Well that’s probably for the best.


20 posted on 07/29/2011 1:12:00 PM PDT by Grunthor (Faster than the speed of smell.)
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