Skip to comments.EDITORIAL: Jacking up your electric bill
Posted on 07/27/2011 5:55:59 PM PDT by jazusamo
More regulations on industry will hurt the flickering economy
America faces a European-style debt crisis, but you wouldnt know it from observing whats happening on Capitol Hill. At a Senate committees request, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) on Tuesday issued an analysis of proposed renewable (RES) and clean-energy standards (CES). The federal government has grown so large that its actually studying how to spend money to make electricity more expensive.
In fact, its a White House priority. In his State of the Union address, President Obama called for 80 percent of Americas electricity to come from windmills and solar panels by 2035 as part of his Win the Future (WTF) campaign. That can only happen if federal laws and regulations are used to shut down cheaper sources of power, such as coal. As CBO concluded, Either an RES or CES would also raise the average cost of generating electricity in the United States because, in the absence of the standard, regulators and generators would generally choose the lowest-cost method of producing electricity. In a sane world, that would be the end of the story, but it isnt.
Currently, coal provides 45 percent of our power and nuclear 19 percent. Wind accounts for 2 percent, and solar power is so weak it earns an asterisk. Thats not going to change, so federal bureaucrats want to tell private companies they must produce 20 percent or 25 percent of their electricity from inefficient, intermittent sources using a complex scheme of production credits to impose their will on the industry.
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I sure as hell hope I’m not around when the Federal Government collapses.
I hate that bastard so much that I should just go on down to the Secret Service right now and turn myself in for thought crimes.
Want to car pool?
President Obama called for 80 percent of Americas electricity to come from windmills and solar panels by...
And I believe in flying monkeys and that the government is coming to help me.....
What about the poor? Oh yeah, the middle class will be taxed double to cover the subsidies for the poor.
People accustomed to huddling around electric space heaters will just find alternatives to keep warm, like woodstoves and pieces of vacant homes.
If you charter a bus, let me know. I'm in.
“President Obama called for 80 percent of Americas electricity to come from windmills and solar panels by...
And I believe in flying monkeys and that the government is coming to help me.....”
- ...you mean the flying monkeys coming out of my butt, because that’s about as likely to happen as 80% of our energy from solar and wind by 2035 - unless we’re only going to have a fraction of the energy we have now.
Perhaps this is what Obama is alluding to.
I used to think that this administration’s harmful actions were due to a combination of stupidity and fanaticism. I am swinging over to the opinion that the administration’s harmful policies are willful and malicious. To put it another way the administration and its members INTEND to cause harm.
Next election, when a candidate tells you he's a Marxist, it's smart to believe him.
Never thought I’d almost enjoy hearing ominious news from a cardiologist..... >Mech
They’ll outlaw woodstoves pretty soon. As it is, people living in Sacramento need to call in to see if they can burn. This guy needs to go, one way or the other.
I just got my electric bill. The charges on it lately are mystifying. Hope someone here can explain them. The total distribution charge for kilowats used is $27.52. Then, a long list of fees are tacked on which more than doubles my bill. I think they are penalties/charges for this green energy crap.
There’s .15 for a “consumer education charge,” .05 for a “solar requirements charge,” .23 for a “default service charge,” $3.26 for a “non-utility generation charge,” $1.07 for a “smart meter charge (I don’t have a smart meter), and a whopping $32.15 charged as “price to compare default service.”
The glossary on the back of the bill says the solar requirements charge is a “charge for the cost to acquire solar photovoltaic alternative energy credits to comply with the ‘Alternative Energy Portfolio Standards Act.’” What???
The “price to compare default service” is translated to mean “charges for costs to provide energy capacity compliance with Alternative Energy Portfolio standards, transmission and ancillary services for commercial and residential customers receiving default service.” What??
This looks to me like I’m being fined for buying electricity from a company that gets its energy from coal, not solar or wind. It looks like the cap and trade that will “necessarily cause utility bills to skyrocket” in Obama’s immortal words. Am I correct? And what is the “Alternative Energy Portfolio Standards Act”?
My actual electricity use amounted to $27.52 last month. Tack on all these damn fees and I owe Penelec $64.43, more than double that. What the heck is this?
Windmills and solar panels? 2035?
Is there an engineer in the house? Even Jimmuh Carter?
What is the idea, to win the future for the purpose of crapping all over it?
Last week out of curiosity I went to the Midwest Independent System Operator (MIS0) webiste. This outfit coordinates the transmission and gerenation for nearly the entire Midwest and part of Canada. I believe it was Wendesday and at 2:00 p.m. the aggregate electrical demand for the MISO footprint was nearly 100,000 megawatts. Of that, wind was supplying 840 megawatts. Yep, out all of the thousands of windmills blighting the landscape over thousands of square miles they were covering 8/10’s of one percent of the total electrical demand for the Midwest. And we’re gonna do what by 2035?
This time next year we'll get an earfull of this kind of stuff. Obama got Ben Laden, but did nothing else, so he lay all his debits at the feet of the Republicans and those the government won't be coming over to help..
But Barack Hussein Obama’s goal of generating 80% of the nation’s electricity from wind and solar sources by 2035 can come true. After all, during the Thomas Jefferson Administration, that’s how it was. Of course, that’s because 80% of 0 kWh is still 0 kWh—the total electricity generated before the invention of the electric utility.
Thomas Alva Edison invented the local electric utility company in 1878 to power his incandescent lamp. Now, the Congress has outlawed the incandescent lamp, and the last House of Representatives actually passed a bill named Waxman-Markey—voted for it before they even bothered to write it. This bill would have mandated an 83% reduction in carbon dioxide emissions by 2050 from a baseline year of 2005, taking the United States back to the per-capita carbon dioxide emissions of 1875. For some reason, the Senate got too flustered ramming reams of horrendous, incomprehensible multi-thousand-page bills through passage that Waxman-Markey died forgotten. But remember this: 1875 was before the invention of the incandescent lamp and before electric utility power.
So this goal is actually a concession: the extreme elites (the top two percent or less) will retain extremely expensive (but they can afford it) electric power at least erratically during periods of intense sunshine and modestly high wind, while the rest of us get none ever. And then we will be very happy, and all such Americans (with the possible exception of Oklahomans) suddenly lacking electricity will vote Democrat forevermore to thank them for the great gift of eradicating their access to electric power. Or so the Democrats in charge think.
Think of all the innovation necessary to adapt our society to one in which electric power is unreliable, unaffordable, or even banned to the masses. Think of all the jobs that new technological situation will create. (Ignore the vastly greater numbers of jobs it will destroy and all the innovation it will render useless or unmarketable. Ignore also the terrible human suffering likely to result from these policies. Democrats don’t think that the young, old, sick, and disabled are persons who deserve to insist on the privilege of vitality.)
We don’t need a car or appliances. Just put a couch on the porch, and flash raid a local 7-11 for some malt liquor. Life is good, when it’s simple, and job-free. Who needs electricity???
I think my electric company is being penalized by either the state or federal government because they are generating energy from coal. My area has three enormous coal-fired generating stations that provide electricity for the east coast and probably me locally.
Penelec is passing on these penalties to me in the form of higher electric bills—more than double in this case. I have never seen electric bills like this. A year or two ago, it was much less. I have a new refrigerator that uses much less energy than the old one. I’ve switched some of my light bulbs to the damn compact ones. My bill should be decreasing. Not with Zero in the White House.
“They will necessarily go bankrupt.”
Another reason why an income tax is idiotic.
Two possibilities: Either he's indulging in hyperbolic rhetoric, or he really believes this crap is possible because he says so.
I was leaning to the first, because the second puts him in the looney bin rather than just the far left of the political spectrum. But, with the passing of time, I'm starting to rethink my position.
To think otherwise is just a killowatt version of "The Emporers New Clothes".
I would suggest reading “The Thor Conspiracy” by Larry Burkett. Although it is fiction, he perfectly identifies the groups, the goals and the methods of the Greenies. And it is more scary because you can see it in action now!
Obama and the Democrats don’t care how much our energy bills are, the majority of them are rich. They want to tell us what to drive, but they continue to drive large vehicles. I want them to get the hell out of my pockebook and their nose out of my business. I also want them to be voted out this next election or this country will NOT survive.
Our power comes from coal via a rural electric co-op. We are charged $27 and change each month as a *facility fee*: for the privilege of being hooked up to the transmission line. Another $9+ each month goes for taxes, fees, subsidized energy for low-income households. There is a sales tax on the subtotal, essentially a sales tax on taxes, fees and other charges, as well as electric consumption.
$80-$100 worth of electricity results in a bill for $120-$150. We just had a 10-day heat wave, so the next bill will be even higher.
I can practically convert wattage on anything to cost per kWh without a calculator. Everything we use is fairly new, except for one old a/c unit in our shop, and is *energy efficient*. We have _one_ incandescent bulb in the entire house and shop. We pay more than we ever did and consume less than we ever did. We have frugality fatigue in regard to electricity usage.
You are not alone.
You are overlooking another, very likely possibility.
To-wit: The Won proposes to excruciate the public open-endedly, perpetually, and inexorably, not to reach any concrete policy goal, but rather, the policy goals are created in order to occasion and justify the excruciation.
In short, he's tormenting the People because he doesn't like them. Typical white people, and all that.
What is more likely? That he really believes in the announced policy goals, or in the beatings he will administer to all those odious people out there, on the road to this never-reached destination?
I hate him, too-—but no way on hell would I turn myself in.
Punishment for hating his energy policy is being tied to offshore windmills and be at the mercy of the waves and wind.
Ditto. No way in Hades I'd turn myself in.
*If* anything, I'm going out like Davy Crockett.
The Fall of the Alamo depicts Davy Crockett swinging his rifle at
Mexican troops who have breached the south gate of the mission.
But sometimes it gets to where you just have to:
Grab The Bull By The Tail and Face The Situation.And the CommieRATS are pushing and shoving us towards that Bull.
Americans need to be very vigilant: Obama and his loathsome WH staff are very calculated in their use of power. As dissent among the populace grows, they are capable of plotting staged events to boost their advantage.
If these arch-manipulators perceive there isnt measurable fear in the hearts of the people, they will create that fear to solidify their power. They know people will succumb to fear, and will relinquish their God-given liberties when they are fearful.
Couldn't agree more...definitely a "what the f..." campaign
” If these arch-manipulators perceive there isnt measurable fear in the hearts of the people, they will create that fear to solidify their power. They know people will succumb to fear, and will relinquish their God-given liberties when they are fearful. “
But W E have all the guns :)
Guns AND God.
They might actually be getting subsidies for using coal. I was incredulous finding out that a plant I worked at was getting tax break for spraying water onto the coal before burning it. It made it less efficient, but got it considered an "alternative fuel" by the way things were written.
Well.. me have most of them, the 'Legal Ones', anyway.
But most important, we know how to properly use them -- like aim them and hit our targets :-)
an aside: Last night on the Military Channel I caught a bit of one program where this Brig. General said:
"I'd rather have One Man with a Rifle who knows how to use it, than a Squad of Men with Rifles who don't."Same holds true for 'civil insurrection(1)' too, so it's BIG equalizer.
(US Army Infantry Squad = 9-13 Soldiers)
B U M P
” Guns AND God. “
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