VIDEO:Obama Orders:Launched Fast and Furious

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[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

VIDEO:Obama Orders:Launched Fast and Furious

[Wuli]

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[MestaMachine]

I have posted this link over and over. Up until a few days ago, this link was posted with all of the Gunwalker pings. I stopped posting the reference links because I thought that most of the people who have followed this were up to speed about it.

The Ogden video is not a smoking gun.

David Codrea-MISCONCEPTIONS

A lot of them are out there concerning Gunrunner, like finding the Ogden video and the $10M funding are proof Obama ordered guns walked. No--those are only proof that a known project was authorized by the government--not in secret, but with press releases and everything.

GUNRUNNER has been well known. For a long time. See those "Journalist Guide" icons in the left margin of my WarOnGuns blog? Guess where I got the cover art to modify from? And Gunrunner is NOT synonymous with Fast and Furious--that was a component strategy presented as a sting op. that turned out to be something else.

Mike and I are concerned with gunWALKING--where the stated mission was deviated from with the criminal conspiracy we now see unfolding.

Suddenly I am being hit with a wave of tips about the old known stuff like it's being discovered for the first time--for many, I'm sure it is. I don't know if the genesis of that originates from people not knowing the history of this and jumping in to be helpful and spread the word, or if there is intent to sow confusion and misdirection.

Either way, it does not help, and can actually hurt. A lot.

[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

I know what gunrunner was and the current fast and furious. It was the same operations accept under Bush the arms were traced. Simply put,under Bush it was legit. Under Obama (the second he was sworn into office no matter what name it was called in any video) the guns were not traced.

I think you need to do the research. As Melson has confirmed in secret testimony with his lawyer (and he did not wait for DOJ to tell him/give him permission on what to say.) that he did not act on his own w/o orders above.

So if Obama did not know a thing about fast and furious gunwalker Holder will be arrested soon and Obama will call for this, correct?

[TigersEye]

Gunrunner was and is a name of an agency-wide operation that has been in effect since the Bush administration. It's purpose is ostensibly to interdict illegal gun trafficking. It is the operation that receives funding by name. Operations like Fast and Furious and Castaway are local ATF division operations that get their funding from the over-arching program called Gunrunner.

There was never an operation called Gunwalker but David Codrea and Mike Vanderboegh coined that name to give the scandal itself a name. So "walking" and "gun walking" are verbs (adjectives?) that agents themselves use to describe allowing guns to disappear into the criminal netherworld. "Gunwalker" is a noun used by the press (and coined by Dave and Mike) to describe the scandal.

[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

NUKE THIS THREAD PLEASE, THANK YOU

[LyinLibs]

“I believe Project Gunrunner is a legitimate program. It started 2005 which was during the Bush Administration.”

I’m not interested in “When Program XYZ started.”

I’m interested in WHAT STUNTS OMOSLEM PULLED, and when.

The DOJ existed before Obama was elected, but look what he’s TURNED IT INTO.

The EPA existed before Obama was elected, but look what he’s done with it.

NASA existed before Omoslem was elected, and he shut down half of it, and turned the other half into a “MOSLEM OUTREACH” program.

So when people tell me “Oh, that’s a legit program, because Obama didn’t START it,” my reply is MAYBE IT WAS LEGIT before Omoslem moved into the White House.

But if he’s proven one thing, Omoslem has proven beyond ANY DOUBT that he’s willing to take EXISTING government programs and PERVERT them into CRIMINAL ENTERPRISES.

This is why I’m baffled by people nitpicking “Oh this over here is GunWALKER, and this over here is GunRUNNER, and this over here is GunCRAWLER, and this one is GunDANCER, so we only need to worry about GunWALKER.”

That’s BS. ALL programs this MOSLEM TRAITOR was overseeing need to be investigated.

I don’t “trust” the moslem communist that he “Continued GUNRUNNER in good faith, in accordance with all local laws, in the spirit of George Bush, because Obama’s a big fan of Bush and a nice guy.”

The truth is more like “Obama took every avenue he could to undermine and destroy the USA, and we’ve finally uncovered one that might STICK.”

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[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

PLEASE nuke this thread I started thank you.

[MestaMachine]

Whoa! No need to nuke it. There is plenty of room for discussion, as you can see. Yes, GunRUNNER was a legit op. But immediately after they recieved the funding from the stimulus, they flipped it. It is damn sure worth discussing!

[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

Even this forum has gunrunner as THE ping word. IT IS CONFUSING. Imagine the non political junkies thinking Bush started the corruption. We know Obama ordered it Melson said Holder did therefore Obama had to have.

[MestaMachine]

Yes, it is confusing. The way the informtion is dripping out is confusing. There is so much to this. Even a really good tinfoil hat wouldn’t do much good at this point.

[Maelstrom]

Nope.

Fast and Furious was created, by Obama, as explained in this clip, under the auspicies of project Gunrunner.

This is a flat-out admission of where responsibility lies.

[InterceptPoint]

Look, I agree with you about Obama. He is running, in effect, a criminal enterprise from the White House and this has to end. It will end in 2013 when the adults get back in charge. At least we hope they are adults. But in any case, Obama will be gone.

What I do object to is this very thread that in my opinion is very misleading. The video that is the subject of the thread does not indict Obama in launching Fast and Furious. That doesn’t mean he didn’t do it. I’m sure he did. But that video proves nothing and it is misleading to make such a claim.

[SunkenCiv]

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