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Romney backtracks on argument that Obama made economy worse
MSNBC ^ | July 1, 2011 | Mark Murray and Matt Loffman

Posted on 07/01/2011 8:39:29 AM PDT by ejdrapes

Romney backtracks on argument that Obama made economy worse
By NBC's Mark Murray and Matt Loffman

Over the last few weeks, Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney has argued that President Obama's policies have made the economy worse.

Here was Romney in New Hampshire on Monday:

The people of New Hampshire have waited long enough. They want to see good jobs. They want to see rising incomes. They want to see an economy that's growing again, and the president's failed. He did not cause this recession, but he made it worse.

And he said something similar at the New Hampshire debate earlier this month:

He didn't create the recession, but he made it worse and longer.

But at his press conference today in Allentown, PA -- where he was highlighting a company that had closed, after President Obama touted it benefitting from the stimulus -- Romney backtracked on the he-made-it-worse line.

When NBC producer Sue Kroll asked the former Massachusetts governor why he believes that Obama's policies have made the economy worse -- when the economy is now growing (and not shrinking like it was in 2009), when the Dow is climbing (and no longer in a free-fall like it was in '09), and when the unemployment rate is down a full percentage point from where it was in Oct. '09 -- Romney gave this answer:

I didn't say that things are worse.

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Idiot.
1 posted on 07/01/2011 8:39:33 AM PDT by ejdrapes
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To: ejdrapes

lol. I was thinking the same thing. Just one word. IDIOT. These folks are afraid to speak truth. Someone might not like me, boo hoo


2 posted on 07/01/2011 8:40:54 AM PDT by GoCards (RUN SARAH RUN)
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To: ejdrapes

McCain is back. Let’s not let this guy get the nomination.


3 posted on 07/01/2011 8:41:34 AM PDT by Blennos
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To: Blennos

Seriously!!! ROMNEY can not win...


4 posted on 07/01/2011 8:42:27 AM PDT by GoCards (RUN SARAH RUN)
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To: ejdrapes

I just don’t understand the logic. Even if he’s a moderate...he’s running to beat Obama, right?

If he’s running to beat the guy, why would he feel doing anything other than telling the people why the incumbent is wrong and he is right, is going to help him?


5 posted on 07/01/2011 8:42:36 AM PDT by RockinRight (Nobama 2012.)
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To: ejdrapes

Worse than that!


6 posted on 07/01/2011 8:43:24 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: ejdrapes

What a goof. He needs to have answers for state run media questions like that.


7 posted on 07/01/2011 8:44:29 AM PDT by Patrick1 ("The problem with Internet quotations is that many are not genuine." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: ejdrapes

Either he doesn’t want the nomination that badly, or he knows the fix is in for his nomination, so he doesn’t have to weigh his words too carefully.


8 posted on 07/01/2011 8:44:43 AM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: RockinRight

Wrong, He is not running to beat Obama, they are one and the same Members of the Ruling Class.


9 posted on 07/01/2011 8:44:44 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: ejdrapes
What a tool this guy is.

Can anyone give me a reason WHY this guy is running for President. Besides the desire to aggrandize himself, what possibly does he have to offer the country as a whole, Obamacare II the attack of the Romneybots?

This guy is an absolute empty suite. One spineless jackass a decade is enough. When will the Conservatives dismiss this guy and attack him off the scene.

10 posted on 07/01/2011 8:45:22 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: ejdrapes

AAahhhh Mitt Chit,Obama and the Rats caused the recession,Think REAL HARD Douche bag,Remember they/RATS took the midterms in 06 and it was down hill ever since!! I am not going into the ACORN/Obama Scams.


11 posted on 07/01/2011 8:45:22 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: ejdrapes
I'm going to fight to beat you and take your job! Why? Because you have been doing a great job!

WHA????

12 posted on 07/01/2011 8:45:45 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: RockinRight

Romney’s logic is to run as a mushy moderate. Now why he thinks that will beat Obama I have no idea.


13 posted on 07/01/2011 8:46:08 AM PDT by ejdrapes (Chris Wallace is a jerk)
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To: RockinRight

Sounds more like he is running to be Obama’s running mate or to get a cabinet position. It reminds me of the old ADM commercial “we don’t make things, we just make them better.”


14 posted on 07/01/2011 8:46:43 AM PDT by Anima Mundi (If you try to fail and you succeed , what have you just done?)
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To: ejdrapes
Methinks the Mitty-Gritty man needs a teleprompter...he's as inept as his hero...

NOT2SMART
15 posted on 07/01/2011 8:46:46 AM PDT by FrankR (A people that values its privileges above its principles will soon lose both.)
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To: ejdrapes

If MSNBC says it and it’s what I want to hear, of course it’s true. ;-)


16 posted on 07/01/2011 8:47:29 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: ejdrapes

Romney’s plan is to run to the left of Obama, so that Obama can run as a conservative in 2012.


17 posted on 07/01/2011 8:48:41 AM PDT by o2bfree
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To: isthisnickcool

And how stupid because it’s a complete lie. It’s one thing to say ‘I shouldn’t have said it’, or ‘I didn’t mean it that way’, but to claim he didn’t say something he clearly did? IDIOT.


18 posted on 07/01/2011 8:48:48 AM PDT by ejdrapes (Chris Wallace is a jerk)
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To: ejdrapes

This is the same crap he did when he was running against Kennedy. He’s a mushy moderate that doesn’t like to be “mean-spirited”.

And once he’s the nominee, the media will portray him as a far-right conservative. So why don’t we just nominate a far-right conservative and avoid the worthless middle-man?


19 posted on 07/01/2011 8:48:48 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: ejdrapes

Obama now officially owns this recession. He DID make things worse by burying this nation in deficits and debts putting a cap on its ability to recover, The stock market is recovering because corporate profits are up because of efficiencies in production with net prfoit margins increasing not top line growth which is the true mark of recovery. The GDP growth is paltry and nowhere where it should be after a recession. Reagan had 7% growth during his recovery resulting from tax cuts. Obama has 1.9% growth and created the real risk of a double dip with the debt he has added and the regulation he has saddled business with.


20 posted on 07/01/2011 8:49:41 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: ejdrapes

Makes you wonder if he got beat all the time as a kid, or maybe if he just got beat up by other kids all the time.

ANY time he is confronted, challenged, questioned even-—he drops ‘em and bends over.

Does he think THAT’S what’s needed in the world around us now?

What a freaking clueless pansy.


21 posted on 07/01/2011 8:49:47 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: rhombus

Huh? Those are actual quotes from Romney. Nothing for MSNBC to ‘spin’.


22 posted on 07/01/2011 8:49:51 AM PDT by ejdrapes (Chris Wallace is a jerk)
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To: RockinRight

Perhaps he’s just being honest, all the better a reason to not be the Republican nominee.

What I can’t understand is how he accepted the premise of the question as accurate? The economy is better? Unemployment is improved (the real number is still running around 18%)?

I hate it when candidates capitulate to the mantra of the Media.


23 posted on 07/01/2011 8:50:14 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: GoCards

Should he become the Republican candidate, those who vote for him will be idiots.


24 posted on 07/01/2011 8:51:12 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: ejdrapes

Why didn’t he hit this stupid MSM bimbo back by pointing out GNP growth is anemic at best and not creating significant job growth, certainly not enough to keep up with population growth much less the millions who have been looking for jobs for months and years, and point at at an avg. of only 2% GNP growth we have the weakest economic recovery following a recession in generations, when GNP growth normally hits as much as 6-7% for several quarters after?? By any standard this is a jobless recovery which has profits up for corporations, a large part of which coming from overseas sales due to the weak dollar, but is producing only higher unemployment, one measure that is demonstrably worse.


25 posted on 07/01/2011 8:51:15 AM PDT by MissesBush (Obama logic re: Weiner. Twitter your junk = I would resign. Destroy a nation = I deserve re-election)
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To: Fightin Whitey

My fear is Timmy will be the exact same way. So all the Mike Murphy’s of the world freaking out that Michele Bachmann is hurting Timmy....sorry Timmy won’t be any different that Romney.


26 posted on 07/01/2011 8:51:22 AM PDT by ejdrapes (Chris Wallace is a jerk)
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To: ejdrapes

Romney has more waffles than a House of Pancakes.


27 posted on 07/01/2011 8:52:34 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: eyeamok

It certainly appears that way. UGH.

I was watching Dana Perrino and Joe Trippi talk about how “presidential” Romney sounded in this ad on FOX last night. How he didn’t appear in it at all, but he was a leader and was so strong. He is the head of the pack and others are in his shadow.

Puhlease. I couldn’t switch stations fast enough.


28 posted on 07/01/2011 8:53:25 AM PDT by Shelayne (We need a Netanyahu! Instead we're stuck with the "yahu".)
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To: fatnotlazy
Should he become the Republican candidate, those who vote for him will be idiots.

Who would we vote for, Obama? Not voting or voting 3rd party would also be tantamount to a vote for Obama too. We should fight to keep him from the GOP candidacy with all we have but if God forbid he's the GOP candidate we have to do a nose holding. We cannot afford another 4 years of Obama. If that makes me an idiot, sign me up for idiot.

29 posted on 07/01/2011 8:54:20 AM PDT by MissesBush (Obama logic re: Weiner. Twitter your junk = I would resign. Destroy a nation = I deserve re-election)
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To: ejdrapes

romney just cannot admit that his marxist ideology has failed... FUmitt!

LLS


30 posted on 07/01/2011 8:55:20 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"! I choose LIBERTY and PALIN!)
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To: ejdrapes

Romney is such a wienie douche. He doesn’t cause liberals to violently hurl therefore I cannot support him. At this point in time, I take a Bachman/Cain ticket with Bolton at State. Can’t decide if Sarah should clean out the GOP or just continue her very effective airstrikes on the DNC and all their miserable minions.


31 posted on 07/01/2011 8:55:26 AM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: ejdrapes

Please!

32 posted on 07/01/2011 8:56:01 AM PDT by mrsmith
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To: chuckee

Not to mention that under Obama Unemployment as INCREASED significantly, the Deficit has Exploded, Food Stamps has skyrocketed, Gas Prices are almost double, Growth is paltry, Exports are down, etc., etc.

Romney could have made hay with this question. Instead he BLEW IT!!


33 posted on 07/01/2011 8:57:40 AM PDT by Laserman
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To: Laserman

go away willard. just go away.


34 posted on 07/01/2011 9:00:10 AM PDT by rokkitapps ( Hearings on healthcare waivers NOW! (If you agree make this your tagline))
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To: ejdrapes

And you have to love how the press is still acting as Obama’s Praetorian Guard. This “reporter” sounds like an Obama campaign commercial. Seriously, whoever is the GOP nominee is going to get these hostile questions from the Obama cheerleaders in the press and is going to have to know how to answer them effectively. Romney failed the test with his answer.


35 posted on 07/01/2011 9:00:30 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: ejdrapes

Give him enough rope and he’ll bracktrack himself right out of the perceived front runner status. Remember Rudy in 2007? He was the perceived front runner at this point in time. Remind me how that worked out.


36 posted on 07/01/2011 9:01:17 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: ejdrapes


"I'm shocked! Shocked to find out that Romney has flip-flopped again!"
37 posted on 07/01/2011 9:03:43 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Can you afford to board the Chattanooga Choo-Choo?)
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To: ejdrapes
I think the following are correct:

More houses are underwater.

Dollar is weaker

Inflation is worse

National Debt is worse

States' debts are worse

Misery index is worse

Individual Americans now bear greater share of debt burden

More Americans on food stamps.

Gasoline, energy, and food prices are inflating dramatically. The stock market recovery is a function of flooding the markets with fiat money. The unemployment figures are misleading because they exclude those on the margins who do not seek work, work off the books, work part-time, have outlived their benefits.


38 posted on 07/01/2011 9:03:56 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Patrick1

The answer to that Government-reporter’s question is, “Of course things are worse! Unemployment is down 1%? First, Obama promised his massive spending would cap the unemployment rate at 8%, and that didn’t happen. Second, unemployment is much higher than 9%. The real rate is 15-20%. Only in the bizzaro world of government statistics is the real rate 9%, where the people who have given up, or are working 20 hours a week under the table are not counted.

When Obama took office, gas was $2 a gallon. Now it’s $3.50. His massive spending has doubled the government debt, now totalling $14 TRILLION! It has led to runaway inflation. If you’re lucky enough to have a job, your paycheck doesn’t go as far. And you think things are better???


39 posted on 07/01/2011 9:03:58 AM PDT by Big E
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
Excellent point. My first response to the reporterette would have been "Why do you sound so much like an Obama campaign commercial? You are cherry-picking small facts to mask the reality."

Then, I would have launched into a laundry list of the realities.

40 posted on 07/01/2011 9:05:14 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: ejdrapes

Yeah, I know. They do the same thing all the time with actual quotes from Palin, Bachmann, Cain, etc. especially if it helps their agenda. What’s good about MSNBC and the rest of the MSM is that they telegraph their fear.


41 posted on 07/01/2011 9:05:18 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Anima Mundi

BASF commercial.


42 posted on 07/01/2011 9:05:35 AM PDT by eCSMaster (We will fight for America and it starts here in Madison, WI. It starts here. It starts now.)
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To: rokkitapps

“go away willard. just go away.”

I agree, especially given his absurd endorsement of man-made globull warming!!


43 posted on 07/01/2011 9:06:23 AM PDT by Laserman
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To: MissesBush
I don't like hypotheticals normally, but if Romney is the Republican nominee, I will be as active as possible to work against both candidates.

This perception promoted by both Parties that a Third Party candidate cannot win is false. If given the choice of two Liberals and one Conservative, especially in the economic times we're in, I'm choosing the Conservative. Unlike Democrats, I will remain true to my beliefs versus remaining true to a political party.

Remember your history. In 1860, a Third Party candidate became a President. The President was Lincoln and the Third Party was the Republican Party.

One scenario which seems possible given the dynamics is no one candidate would gain the required 270 Electoral votes. That being the case, the election would be turned over to a Republican controlled House.

44 posted on 07/01/2011 9:09:16 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: ejdrapes

I hope Romney continues to back away until he is completely out of the race.


45 posted on 07/01/2011 9:10:47 AM PDT by Marty
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To: ejdrapes
Romney is not my guy but as the MSNBC article went on to point out Romney added, "What I said was that economy hasn't turned around, that you've got 20 million Americans out of work, or seriously unemployed; housing values still going down. You have a crisis of foreclosures in this country. The economy, by the way, if you think the economy is great and going well, be my guest. But the president of the United States, when he put in place his stimulus plan and borrowed $787 billion, said he would hold unemployment below 8% — and 8% seemed like an awfully high number. It hasn't been below 8% since. That's failure. We're over 9% unemployment. That's failure. He set the bogie himself at 8% ,which strikes me as a very high number and we're still above that three years later." Not the perfect answer; but sadly better than some candidates I do support give when put on the spot.
46 posted on 07/01/2011 9:15:04 AM PDT by RonnieFan
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To: ejdrapes
There are no politicians from Massachusetts who have been successful AND truly conservative. Conservative is a relative term. A “conservative” politician from Mass. is a liberal leaning moderate to the rest of us.
47 posted on 07/01/2011 9:16:46 AM PDT by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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To: ejdrapes

RE-DEFEAT Romney Again!!!

(Department of Redundancy Department)


48 posted on 07/01/2011 9:22:41 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Go green - recycle Congress in 2012!!)
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To: MissesBush
If that makes me an idiot, sign me up for idiot. ,

I will proudly sit out if this Mitt wit is the nominee. Mitt will do absolutely NOTHING to reduce the power and scope of government. In other words, the progression to a Socialist Hell will not be stopped by this idiot.

It is best to let the Rats completely own the destruction of our Republic.

Mitt is contemptible because he has the heart and soul of a STATIST. Never should anyone who cherishes Liberty vote for a power hungry statist.

49 posted on 07/01/2011 9:31:15 AM PDT by sand88 (Sarah Palin announces her run: August 12, 2011 11:10am ET)
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To: ejdrapes

this guy flip-flops faster than some of the Democrats


50 posted on 07/01/2011 9:38:17 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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