Posted on 06/25/2011 9:47:17 AM PDT by marktwain
Thanks for the info. Makes me feel even better about buying his books from the remaindered stack.
They’re pretty stuff, got several myself.
***Everyone knows you can’t get two magazines through one of these without it jamming.****
If I remember my history correctly, the Luger was originaly made in 30 cal Luger and it worked fine. Then the Germans wanted it in 9mm and the problems began.
Also, the original Luger would not work with soft nose ammo so the German government began to call for a change to the rules of war. They wanted all soft nosed ammo banned. They were successful and that is why soft nose ammo for military use is a violation of Hague convention rules of war.
You can blow them to pieces!
Burn them with napalm and phosphorus!
Run over them with tanks!
But you CAN’T kill them with soft nosed ammo! It is not humane.
Sure you can shoot it without jamming. The problem is that modern ammunition is not made hot enough for these guns. The recoil springs are designed for hotter ammunition than available today so it ends up frequently jamming. If they loaded to original pressures, it would not be a problem.
So what is so rare about this P08 Luger beyond his having owned it. It looks like a garden variety Swiss Luger in .30 Luger to me. Not common, but I wouldn’t call it rare. I don’t see what justifies the guy saying that if Hughes had used a “regular” Luger, as if their aren’t 500 variations of Lugers. But it is not as if this is the .45 Luger or something.
What makes this gun so unique? Isn’t this just one of thousands of Swiss Lugers?
So instead of 6.0 grains of Unique, one should use 7.0 grains?
If that's the case I'll hunt one of these up for a reasonable price and give it a try.
I don’t reload. Ask on a firearms or Luger website and I’m sure some nice folks will give you an appropriate load to begin with and work up.
>>> If I remember my history correctly, the Luger was originaly made in 30 cal Luger and it worked fine. Then the Germans wanted it in 9mm and the problems began.
The Luger company competed with the American pistol manufacturers when the US Army asked for prototypes to be tested, and the winner to become the new US sidearm. Perhaps this is why the .45 cal Lugers lost the shootout to the M1911.
Just don’t try firing surplus 9mm submachine gun ammo (or, heaven forbid, modern 9mm NATO) in a Luger. The gun probably won’t blow up...but its life will be shortened quickly and considerably.
I understand 9mm NATO is quickly bringing the service career of the legendary Browning High-Power to an end for the same reason. It just beats the hell out of the guns.
Yes, it was so tested. There were five .45 Lugers made up for the trials. From what I hear they lost out because they were a non-native design, and also because Deutsche Waffen und Munitionen was not interested in issuing an American license; ergo, we would have been dependent on a foreign supplier for our military’s pistols.
Of the five .45 trial Lugers, two are known to survive today. To my knowledge both are in private hands, and are worth nearly a million apiece.
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