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Legalize cannabis? Not so fast, say medics
Bermuda Sun ^ | June 22, 2011 | Raymond Hainey

Posted on 06/22/2011 11:34:42 PM PDT by AustralianConservative

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To: alexander_busek

This just shows you how little you have thought about it. I will not support any laws that permits the government to tax drugs. If you can’t figure it, that’s your problem.


41 posted on 06/23/2011 12:19:03 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: AustralianConservative
Dr Simmons added that studies had shown that marijuana use caused higher rates of depressive illness in adult women – four times the rate of depression found in non-users.

Teenage marijuana smokers have also been found to be less likely to complete high school and more likely to make poor career and life choices.

Correlation does not equal causation. Perhaps people prone to depression and making poor choices are more likely to self-medicate with pot, alcohol, tobacco and so forth.

42 posted on 06/23/2011 12:20:15 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: savagesusie
..BUT since we DO have government interference in all aspects of life we can’t legalize it because then they do not suffer the consequence for their actions.

What you are saying is that you accept the welfare state we have.

43 posted on 06/23/2011 12:23:22 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: berdie
As soon as the demonization of smoking a cigarette quits...I’ll think about legalisation.

Why are you making your thinking - and presumably, also your ACTING - against something you imply you realize is UNJUST contingent upon the consistent behavior of others?

What you wrote is like saying "I'll think about allowing Blacks to drink out of the same water fountain as soon as 'they' stop [insert any other arbitrary morally reprehensible condition in the world]."

And "demonization" is not to be compared to "illegalization." Getting cited and having to pay a $200 fine for smoking in a restaurant is NOT comparable with being thrown in the pokey and getting anally raped because you were sitting at home smoking some marijuana you grew in your own flower box.

Regards,

44 posted on 06/23/2011 12:23:29 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Correct. But, I could conduct myself in a flamboyant homosexual lifestyle and be protected.

YOU didn't ANSWER my question either.

Nice try. Not really...

45 posted on 06/23/2011 12:24:22 AM PDT by freepersup (Today, we raise our glasses of spirits and mugs of ale high- to Budge.)
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To: Grizzled Bear
You “have the right” to use a cordless drill on your forhead. Just sayin...

Then the answer is to make cordless drills illegal. /s

46 posted on 06/23/2011 12:25:08 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: Persevero
No, it has it’s benefits. It releases stress, provides exercise, lowers the blood pressure. . . all kinds of bennies to the disco till 5 am. And the benefits of smoking pot are. . .

The point is that it is debatable, i.e., there are no objective arguments to be made for/against going to the disco, slamming your head against the floor, drinking Jim Beam, or smoking pot.

It should therefore be left to the INDIVIDUAL to decide what is best for him!

Regards,

47 posted on 06/23/2011 12:25:43 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: TigersEye
Correlation does not equal causation. Perhaps people prone to depression and making poor choices are more likely to self-medicate with pot, alcohol, tobacco and so forth.

If youngsters were seeking to "self-medicate" with marijuana then they would be doing better.

What you are talking about is self-destruct.

48 posted on 06/23/2011 12:28:26 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: ansel12
Pot is a weed that doesn’t need any refining, once legal, it will be free and everywhere, no one will be paying tax. Making a Marlboro, a Bourbon, a Beer is complicated and is meant to please the palate.

Growing tobacco is no more difficult than growing marijuana. In fact, it was so simple that even the Indians - who never even invented the WHEEL - could do it!

Regards,

49 posted on 06/23/2011 12:28:48 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: ansel12

I don’t know a lot about growing pot, but what makes sense to me is that growing any crop incurs expense. Curing and selling also incurs expense (can you say hydroponic), much like the production and distribution of cigarettes or alchohol. The ingredidients of cigarettes and alchohol are natural in the beginning.

If you are talking about growing a few plants on your patio..do you think it would stop at that?

It would turn into large fields and Uncle Bob’s Pot Shop. It would be taxed. With many different flavors..maybe even menthol, lol.


50 posted on 06/23/2011 12:30:58 AM PDT by berdie (qill)
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To: alexander_busek

How dare you use logic? /s ;0)


51 posted on 06/23/2011 12:31:31 AM PDT by freepersup (Today, we raise our glasses of spirits and mugs of ale high- to Budge.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
The Commissioners of The Global Commission on Drug Policy: [...]

And the point of your Ad Hominem innuendo is... ?

Regards,

52 posted on 06/23/2011 12:35:27 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: Berlin_Freeper
If youngsters were seeking to "self-medicate" with marijuana then they would be doing better.

Better than what? Alcohol or tobacco? I agree.

53 posted on 06/23/2011 12:35:35 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: nickcarraway

I never thought to myself we should tax anything, except China and Mexico.


54 posted on 06/23/2011 12:36:05 AM PDT by enduserindy (Conservative Dead Head)
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To: freepersup

If you want to count the crazy people who become helpless homeless bums, added to others from cancer and car wrecks then I would say many millions over the years.


55 posted on 06/23/2011 12:36:53 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: alexander_busek
Growing, drying, and refining tobacco is difficult, that is probably why the Indians never developed cigarettes, we would all be growing our own to replace Marlboros, if it was possible.

Indians used it sparingly, ceremonially, and my own Indian grandmother grew her own for chewing, but she couldn't have produced cigarettes, and she is the only member in the family that used that coarse tobacco.

56 posted on 06/23/2011 12:37:40 AM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: ansel12

Growing good marijuana for smoking is relatively expensive and takes a good deal of time and knowledge. It’s not cheap or easy.


57 posted on 06/23/2011 12:38:56 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye

I see your attention span gave way, so soon too.

But if you now want to talk about alcohol and tobacco then you should be aware there are 400 chemicals in marijuana and a smoker gets more tar than cigarettes.


58 posted on 06/23/2011 12:42:48 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Since YOU are such an expert on marijuana, why don’t you tell me just exactly how much marijuana you’ve consumed in your research??? YOU STILL DIDN”T ANSWER MY ORIGINAL QUESTION WITH ANY SEMBLANCE OF FACT OR ACCURACY (why do you suppose that is?)

PS- As a courtesy; I’m going to go to bed (right) now, and will have to resume contact at a later time/date. toodle do


59 posted on 06/23/2011 12:45:17 AM PDT by freepersup (Today, we raise our glasses of spirits and mugs of ale high- to Budge.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

It’s not my fault your scribblings are incomprehensible. I notice you quit on the other thread when I challenged you to address the actual subject of it. That’s beyond your mental ability.


60 posted on 06/23/2011 12:45:20 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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