Posted on 06/12/2011 5:07:54 AM PDT by Kaslin
Just want to point out that pot-heads generally don’t do meth. Pot is a sedative, meth is a stimulant, opposite effects.
Where does the Constitution authorized the federal government to do or say anything about drugs? Just wondering.
Ok there Comrade Mao, let's execute the guy smoking pot or using Ecstasy. I wonder if you even know what a capitol offense means, if you did you would have not posted such stupidity.
One in five ? That’s a scare tactic if I ever saw one. What makes you think otherwise happy people would turn into addicts just because it was made legal ?
The US Constitution enumerates the powers granted to the national government by the States, and specifies the process by which they may be modified. Family Guy finding a "need" because of "morality problems" is not to be found.
I'm willing to accept the fact that drugs are going to be used by a percentage of the population, whether legally or illegally.
So, what I propose is
1) That drugs be decriminalized.
2) That anyone caught doing anything illegal while under the influence of drugs is given a minimum of one year in prison.
3) When a person provides non prescription drugs to another person(s) and that individual either dies or causes the death or serious bodily injury, of another, the provider and the user are executed.
“One in five ? That’s a scare tactic if I ever saw one. What makes you think otherwise happy people would turn into addicts just because it was made legal ?”
History. Look at the cultures where opiates were tolerated / legal. Cultures like China, Persia, India. Heck, read a Harper’s magazine from 1900, and count the number of ads for rehab places. And remember, even my one in five figure means that 80% of the population doesn’t use drugs.
The more readily hard drugs are available, the more people will get addicted to them. That’s the lesson America learned from the 19th century and why we passed the Harrison narcotics act.
(For more on Iran and its opiate problem, read Spengler at the Asia Times web site)
Lazy, cowardly and stupid American drug users. Too lazy, chicken and stupid to change their reality, so they use drugs to forget about it for a few minutes.
Nonsense. It’s the lack of freedom and hope that causes addiction, not legal drugs. And even today there’s plenty of rehab centers of all kinds, AA, nicotine patches etc.
Yes, Iran has a huge opiate problem, but drugs are most certainly not legal. Banning drugs didn’t solve anything in China either.
Just look at the culture of the places that have the addiction problem. It’s the culture that causes addiction, not the legal status. It’s only tolerated because use is so widespread.
Here’s a link that discusses Iran opiate problem in the 20th century: http://spengler.atimes.net/viewtopic.php?p=194050&sid=839119d0cb51a723c9c2b6af69eaa025
At least one widely quoted author argues that 27% of Chinese population used opium: Alfred W. McCoy. “Opium history, 1858 to 1940”.
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If drugs were legal, the kids would have to find something even worse in order to break the law. It’s better that they just smoke dope, which is relatively harmless, than deal with their delayed entry into adulthood in a more harmful way. Bottom line is this: unless we are wiling for young people to live meaningful lives, like getting a job instead of wasting their time in dumbed-down schools, then we’ve got to accept that all they’ll want to do is play video games, smoke dope and have unprotected sex.
Make it kill on the spot with no trial!
“It’s the culture that causes addiction, not the legal status.”
Of course it’s both. And I don’t want to argue against a straw man. “Ending the war on drugs” means different things to different people. My beef is with the ultra-libertarian types. If you have ubiquitous hard drugs, you’ll have ubiquitous problems.
Statistically, the people who get addicted to hard drugs are the people who have access to them. Doctors, Nurses and Pharmacists are the professions with the highest rate of opiate abuse.
My idea is to only legalize meth and see what happens. Allow it to be sold, advertised, and free samples given out to anyone over 18.
Somehow even the ultra libertarian idiots don’t like that idea though.
They have a severe case of doublethink going on. They’re pro-taxing drugs, but anti-taxes. They say they’re not that bad compared to it being illegal yet won’t go for giving out samples.
“Statistically, the people who get addicted to hard drugs are the people who have access to them. Doctors, Nurses and Pharmacists are the professions with the highest rate of opiate abuse.”
I don’t see the problem with that, as long as they continue to lead productive lives, and not make too many mistakes (lawsuits will deal with that). Junkies are the problem, not otherwise productive adults.
You realize that's exactly the kind of posts that get harvested from FR by the left to paint us all as bloodthirsty nut jobs, right?
I’m not going torepress my opinion in public or private no matter who the audiance is!
If you want to know how I really think drug users should be treated let me know and i’ll tell you!
Garbage. Here are figures put forth by the DEA and the ONDCP:
By 1900, about one American in 200 was either a cocaine or opium addict. (that's 0.5%)
http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/demand/speakout/06so.htm
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Here is a table showing heroin and cocaine addiction figures for 2000:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1454298/replies?c=87#87
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There were about 1M heroin addicts and 3.3M cocaine addicts in 2000. That works out to 1.5% or triple the rate of 1900. Remember, these are US government numbers from people charged with fighting the WOD.
During the 1920’s, the government waged a War on Alcohol. We all know how that turned out.
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