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Experts back Sarah Palinís historical account: You betcha she was right!
The Boston Herald ^ | June 6, 2011 | Chris Cassidy

Posted on 06/05/2011 10:08:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Sarah Palin yesterday insisted her claim at the Old North Church last week that Paul Revere “warned the British” during his famed 1775 ride — remarks that Democrats and the media roundly ridiculed — is actually historically accurate. And local historians are backing her up.

Palin prompted howls of partisan derision when she said on Boston’s Freedom Trail that Revere “warned the British that they weren’t going to be taking away our arms by ringing those bells and making sure as he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free.”

Palin insisted yesterday on Fox News Sunday she was right: “Part of his ride was to warn the British that were already there. That, hey, you’re not going to succeed. You’re not going to take American arms.”

In fact, Revere’s own account of the ride in a 1798 letter seems to back up Palin’s claim. Revere describes how after his capture by British officers, he warned them “there would be five hundred Americans there in a short time for I had alarmed the Country all the way up.”

Boston University history professor Brendan McConville said, “Basically when Paul Revere was stopped by the British, he did say to them, ‘Look, there is a mobilization going on that you’ll be confronting,’ and the British are aware as they’re marching down the countryside, they hear church bells ringing — she was right about that — and warning shots being fired. That’s accurate.”

Patrick Leehey of the Paul Revere House said Revere was probably bluffing his British captors, but reluctantly conceded that it could be construed as Revere warning the British.

“I suppose you could say that,” Leehey said. “But I don’t know if that’s really what Mrs. Palin was referring to.”

McConville said he also is not convinced that Palin’s remarks reflect scholarship.

“I would call her lucky in her comments,” McConville said.

Meanwhile, the state’s Democratic Party held a thin blue line on the issue, insisting on mocking Palin despite a brief historical review of the matter. State party chairman John Walsh wise-cracked that the region welcomes all tourists, even those with “an alternative view of history.”

“If you believe he was riding through the countryside sending text messages and Tweets to the British, still come to Boston,” he said. “There are a lot of things to do and see.”

But Cornell law professor William Jacobson, who asserted last week that Palin was correct, linking to Revere quotes on his conservative blog Legalinsurrection.com, said Palin’s critics are the ones in need of a history lesson. “It seems to be a historical fact that this happened,” he said. “A lot of the criticism is unfair and made by people who are themselves ignorant of history.”


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1 posted on 06/05/2011 10:08:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ahhh, I see, if she gets it right, she’s lucky.


2 posted on 06/05/2011 10:11:28 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Palin’s critics are the same morons who corrected her comment about the Boston Tea Party by using their expertise to let her know that it took place in 1776. ROTFL!!!


3 posted on 06/05/2011 10:15:48 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("...that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,..")
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To: skr

Sarah must be the “luckiest” person in America. Her string of “luck” extends itself each day, it seems.


4 posted on 06/05/2011 10:17:14 PM PDT by alstewartfan (Trains. Who'll remember the ones who only rode in them to die? Al Stewart)
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To: skr

Yes, if she gets it right she is just lucky but if Obama gets it wrong he is just tired or misspoke, and it is so human and understandable and makes him that much more real etc. etc. etc. Amazing.


5 posted on 06/05/2011 10:17:49 PM PDT by Anima Mundi (If you try to fail and you succeed , what have you just done?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“I would call her lucky in her comments,” McConville said.

And her detractors are luckless yet again.

6 posted on 06/05/2011 10:25:44 PM PDT by marron
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I would call her lucky in her comments,” McConville said.<<<

Son.if you study history long enough...........You make your own “luck”..I'm guessing your young or senile to reflect your view....U tell me which...

7 posted on 06/05/2011 10:28:45 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Since most of the last 3 generations has never learned our history, it makes sense they don’t know it. They are well versed on homosexuality, global warming and how to be a socialist.


8 posted on 06/05/2011 10:30:35 PM PDT by 23 Everest (A gun in hand is better than a cop on the phone. I miss my sweet wife Bonnie.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not only that, he warned the British in all 57 states!


9 posted on 06/05/2011 10:32:55 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I love it. Getting these left wing Bostonians to admit that she’s right is like pulling teeth.

You just know they hate it.


10 posted on 06/05/2011 10:34:35 PM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: skr
Ahhh, I see, if she gets it right, she’s lucky.

The lamestream media is horribly unaware of actual American history. When Sarah Palin teaches them about the real events, they're so taken aback by the unvarnished truth, they call her "lucky" as a means of cover for their ignorance.

In 2012, when (not if, but WHEN) she wins, the lamestreamers will doubtlessly attribute her victory to "luck".


11 posted on 06/05/2011 10:34:58 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: 23 Everest

And Palin is well versed in our 2nd Amendment rights, and the stance against big government - hence her phrasing her comments the way she did - bringing that history into the modern day fight.


12 posted on 06/05/2011 10:35:47 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Letter written by Paul Revere himself:

“I observed a Wood at a Small distance, & made for that. When I got there, out Started Six officers, on Horse back,and orderd me to dismount;-one of them, who appeared to have the command, examined me, where I came from,& what my Name Was? I told him. it was Revere, he asked if it was Paul? I told him yes He asked me if I was an express? I answered in the afirmative. He demanded what time I left Boston? I told him; and aded, that their troops had catched aground in passing the River, and that There would be five hundred Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up. He imediately rode towards those who stoppd us, when all five of them came down upon a full gallop; one of them, whom I afterwards found to be Major Mitchel, of the 5th Regiment, Clapped his pistol to my head, called me by name, & told me he was going to ask me some questions, & if I did not give him true answers, he would blow my brains out. He then asked me similar questions to those above. He then orderd me to mount my Horse, after searching me for arms.”

I can’t remember the poster but he wrote this on another thread earlier today...

“The British troops (Democrats) are marching toward Lexington (2012 election) They hear warning shots (Obamacare town hall meetings) and then volley fire (2010 midterm elections), alarm bells ringing (Tea party rallies ). And then they are warned by Paul Revere (Sarah Palin) that the population (us) has been aroused and is prepared to oppose and defeat you.”


13 posted on 06/05/2011 10:43:33 PM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: JoeDetweiler

God has his ways of telling people to put a sock in it!

...never ceases to amaze me the defense He brings to Sarah. Funny thing about “truth” when it’s spoken...it has someone leading ...and covering the rear for those who speak it.

Kinda of reminds me of the nation Israel as they left Egypt...God’s cloud before them and behind....and it was a fire nobody should desire to mess with as the nations soon discovered.

If it’s His desire she run...no man can stop this...they will only get in the way and be mowed down in the process. And since He does install leadership....well... time will surely tell if He’s going to give this nation another chance to do it right.


14 posted on 06/05/2011 10:46:39 PM PDT by caww
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To: 21twelve

Thank you for pointing that out.

What the lefty savants seem to have overlooked was that a central point of her comments called attention to the fact that the Brits were marching to Concord to disarm the Colonists. Hence her “we’re gonna be free, and we’re gonna be armed.”

They got their panties all in a twist because they thought that they had a “gotcha” moment, and utterly missed the point she was making. The thing is, the rest of us didn’t miss her point: we heard her loud and clear, and all the left has managed to do is bring her warnings about the RKBA to wider prominence.

Score another one for Palin.


15 posted on 06/05/2011 10:55:53 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You can never do more, you should never wish to do less.)
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16 posted on 06/05/2011 11:07:38 PM PDT by xuberalles ("The Right Stuff" Conservative Novelties http://www.zazzle.com/xuberalles)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

John Walsh - MA Democrat Party

17 posted on 06/05/2011 11:15:46 PM PDT by kcvl
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18 posted on 06/05/2011 11:17:32 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: skr

I’ll take her luck over Obama’s animus of all 57 states any day.


19 posted on 06/05/2011 11:17:54 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Until Reagan rises from the dead: Thank God McCain didnt win. Obama's better than some RINO.)
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20 posted on 06/05/2011 11:21:37 PM PDT by 4rcane
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21 posted on 06/05/2011 11:21:45 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is what she said (supposedly)

“warned the British that they weren’t going to be taking away our arms by ringing those bells and making sure as he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free.”

There’s a lot wrong with what she (supposedly) said there.

It’s a victory for Palin if she can make it about warned or not warned.

But I would really be hoping that “let’s not talk about this anymore” is the way this one goes.


22 posted on 06/05/2011 11:24:25 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: kcvl

Thanks - now all I can think about is bacon.


23 posted on 06/05/2011 11:49:46 PM PDT by Eldon Tyrell
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To: truthfreedom

Her statement was unclear - but those familiar with the history knew exactly what she meant. Those unfamiliar, and with an agenda - ridiculed her.

They were wrong.

And actually - you are wrong as well. Although the grammer - as you have produced it - is weak/terrible - why don’t you point out which parts are “a lot wrong with what she said” -

He -
warned the British
Who were coming to take arms
He was riding a horse from town to town
Bells were ringing

As far as “shots were fired - there are a few possible interpretations -
1. Shots certainly were fired and 2.) she was referring to “the shot heard round the world”

Why don’t you point out - EXACTLY what is wrong with the statement? How many books on the topic have you read?

Note that - in the article above - the History Profs align with her - even with this grammar.

Do you know why the Brits were headed out there? Because her statements indicate - she knew exactly why.


24 posted on 06/06/2011 12:03:03 AM PDT by Eldon Tyrell
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To: kcvl

A picture is worth a thousand words. Looks like Walsh took Ted’s place in the porking out queue.


25 posted on 06/06/2011 12:12:35 AM PDT by PA Engineer (SP/AW12: Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

MSM will make corrections in print & on air ......................................................


26 posted on 06/06/2011 12:32:51 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: Eldon Tyrell

The sentence is gibberish.

That’s what’s wrong with it.

Basically, what you’re saying is something like “well, we can really rip apart what Palin says, tear it down to words or very short phrases, add some more words, leave a couple words out, and come up with a historically accurate sentence. That’s what Palin meant to say, and what she meant to say was historically accurate.”

You didn’t question this account of what she said, so let’s just assume it’s ok.
“warned the British that they weren’t going to be taking away our arms by ringing those bells and making sure as he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free.”

1) “Revere warned ... by ringing those bells.” 2)
“to send those warning shots” 3) And the fact that we’re looking at this gibberish sentence so closely just to figure out what it is that she’s trying to say. Not to determine whether what she’s saying is true or not, just to figure out what she’s trying to say. The criticism here isn’t “Palin doesn’t know her history”, the criticism is “Palin makes no sense”.

You actually can strengthen up your own argument by mentioning that some scholars do believe that warning shots were fired.

I’m not arguing this is a big deal, and I didn’t really read the stories about what Palin intially said, I started paying attention to the “critics are wrong” stories. It may very well be that the critics were attacking the wrong aspects of the sentence, perhaps by making a story out of it in the first place.

I guess “Palin says something that makes no sense” is not a news story, but “Palin gets Paul Revere facts wrong” is a story?

It’s just something you don’t really want to be talking about any more.

Victory! Read all about how we made a historically accurate sentence out of Palin’s gibberish. You kinda have to repeat the gibberish over and over every time you want to point out how each nugget of factishness is related in some way to something that did happen. That’s not necessarily a good thing for Palin.


27 posted on 06/06/2011 12:37:49 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom

Funny the best presidents I can think of in my lifetime have all been called stupid or ignorant simply because of the way they talk... i.e. talking gibberish or cant talk etc... and our current president is just an articulate talking figurehead reading what his controllers are putting up on the teleprompter. I will take Gibberish from now on thanks! If she runs (which I personally believe she will) she has our two votes.


28 posted on 06/06/2011 1:34:08 AM PDT by AzNASCARfan
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To: truthfreedom

Funny the best presidents I can think of in my lifetime have all been called stupid or ignorant simply because of the way they talk... i.e. talking gibberish or cant talk etc... and our current president is just an articulate talking figurehead reading what his controllers are putting up on the teleprompter. I will take Gibberish from now on thanks! If she runs (which I personally believe she will) she has our two votes.


29 posted on 06/06/2011 1:34:12 AM PDT by AzNASCARfan
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To: AzNASCARfan

Well, I like Palin too. If Palin talks like that a lot, a new defense trick, instead of defending aggressively, say “that’s just Palin being Palin” or whatever. Trying to communicate the idea that you understand that sometimes her sentences don’t make sense, and you really don’t care.


30 posted on 06/06/2011 1:40:20 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As always, the leftys never let the truth get in the way of a good lie.

This is an good read about the battles of Lexington and Concord. Being an old fart, found this interesting, even some old men as a group did their thing that April 19th day in 1775.

“After Percy had left the city, Gage directed two ammunition wagons guarded by one officer and thirteen men to follow. This convoy was intercepted by a small party of older, former militiamen, still on the “alarm list” who could not join their militia companies because they were well over 60. These men rose up in ambush and demanded the surrender of the wagons, but the regulars ignored them and drove their horses on. The old men opened fire, shot the lead horses, killed two sergeants, and wounded the officer. The survivors ran, and six of them threw their weapons into a pond before they surrendered.”

(snip) “After 1860, several generations of schoolchildren memorized Henry Wadsworth Longfellow’s poem Paul Revere’s Ride. Historically it is inaccurate (Despite what the poem says, Paul Revere never made it to Concord, for example), but it captures the idea that an individual can change the course of history.”

http://www.theamericanrevolution.org/battledetail.aspx?battle=1


31 posted on 06/06/2011 1:43:40 AM PDT by Sea Parrot
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To: Sea Parrot
USA-Revere-4sm
  Tea Party USA - Modern Day Paul Reveres - Growing by the day!
32 posted on 06/06/2011 1:48:44 AM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: truthfreedom
Definitely "warned the British" doesn't sound real good. Informed the British would have helped clarify. She really looks and sounds tired or offguard or distracted in the video, and doesn't keep her usual eye contact. Regardless of the reason, it's certainly gibberish.

"He who warned uh the, the British that they weren’t gonna to be takin away our arms uh by ringin those bells and and um making sure as he’s ridin his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that uh we were gonna be secure and we were gonna be free."

I keep picturing Revere riding with one hand firing into the night sky, and one hand tirelessly ringing some little bells. lol

33 posted on 06/06/2011 2:25:10 AM PDT by taraytarah (Cain's the ticket ! All aboard !!)
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“If you believe he was riding through the countryside sending text messages and Tweets to the British, still come to Boston,” he said. “There are a lot of things to do and see.”

There's 56 other states where I will spend my money. I have no urge to ever go to Massachusetts, let alone Boston.

34 posted on 06/06/2011 3:27:39 AM PDT by hattend (Let's all meet Sarah at her last bus stop -- 1600 Pennsylvania Ave in Jan 2013)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Meanwhile, Barry and Joe can gaffe all day long and nobody outside the blogosphere says anything.

Crickets from the mainstream media when Barry and Joe gaffe.

Mainstream media deconstructs every word from Palin in an effort to turn it into a gaffe.


35 posted on 06/06/2011 6:21:44 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: skr
Patrick Leehey of the Paul Revere House said Revere was probably bluffing his British captors, but reluctantly conceded that it could be construed as Revere warning the British.

“I suppose you could say that,” Leehey said. “But I don’t know if that’s really what Mrs. Palin was referring to.”

McConville said he also is not convinced that Palin’s remarks reflect scholarship.

“I would call her lucky in her comments,” McConville said.

Ahhh, I see, if she gets it right, she’s lucky.
A real bunch of truth-seekers we have here! LOL!

36 posted on 06/06/2011 7:03:15 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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To: truthfreedom
Look, it's a commonplace that people don't actually speak in complete sentences all the time.
Had this been a prepared speech, it would have been rightly criticized for sloppiness.
In the event, critics of Palin's response are exactly like the grammar police who nitpick on FR from time to time.

37 posted on 06/06/2011 7:16:22 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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“I would call her lucky in her comments,” McConville said.

ROTFLMAO!!!!

That's it. She's just lucky!!!

38 posted on 06/06/2011 8:05:24 AM PDT by Tribune7 (We're flat broke, but he thinks these solar shingles and really fast trains will magically save us.)
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To: Anima Mundi

A tornado in Kansas killing 10,000 people
57 states in the U.S.
The “Marine Corpse”
Signing the guest book at Westminster Abbey with the year 2008

Not a peep from the media.


39 posted on 06/06/2011 8:13:06 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: Deo volente
And those statements are from the SMARTEST President that has ever lived! Excuse me, I just threw-up a little in my mouth while reading those words - YUCK!
40 posted on 06/06/2011 8:36:10 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lucky? What an A$$. Hoping she gets ‘lucky’ in 2012 too.


41 posted on 06/06/2011 8:42:11 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: Deo volente

He claimed an Uncle in Patton’s army who helped to liberate Auschwitz.


42 posted on 06/06/2011 9:16:42 AM PDT by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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““I would call her lucky in her comments,” McConville said.”

Oh really. Why is that?

43 posted on 06/06/2011 9:18:14 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: truthfreedom

You damn blue blood old money elitists and your stupid syntax! That’s not how we talk in real America!


44 posted on 06/06/2011 9:28:18 AM PDT by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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To: skr
"Ahhh, I see, if she gets it right, she’s lucky."

That was my thought as well. What a$$holes they are. I truly hate them.

45 posted on 06/06/2011 9:43:19 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This sizes up the media elite. They learned all their US history from America-hating Leftists. It reminds me of the APUSH tests, ignorance teaching the ignorant.

They’re ignoramuses of the first order.


46 posted on 06/06/2011 9:45:12 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: caww
"If it’s His desire she run...no man can stop this...they will only get in the way and be mowed down in the process. And since He does install leadership....well... time will surely tell if He’s going to give this nation another chance to do it right."

That is my thinking as well. If He forgives us, He will give us another chance....and that chance is Sarah, and only Sarah, our modern day Esther.

If it's not Sarah, I take it that He has NOT forgiven us. If true, that means "the sleeping giant slept far too long".

47 posted on 06/06/2011 9:49:15 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded.")
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To: Sea Parrot
“After Percy had left the city, Gage directed two ammunition wagons guarded by one officer and thirteen men to follow. This convoy was intercepted by a small party of older, former militiamen, still on the “alarm list” who could not join their militia companies because they were well over 60. These men rose up in ambush and demanded the surrender of the wagons, but the regulars ignored them and drove their horses on. The old men opened fire, shot the lead horses, killed two sergeants, and wounded the officer. The survivors ran, and six of them threw their weapons into a pond before they surrendered.”

Don't mess with old men. They'll just kill you.

Thanks for the history lesson. There is so much of this type of story that never made it into a book or past one or two succeeding generations. More unsung American patriots.

48 posted on 06/06/2011 9:55:13 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Definition:

warning: alert someone to a potential danger

warning: a threat of upcoming negative circumstances.

Both are legitimate usages of the word.

I warned my neighbor of the approaching tornado.

Kennedy warned Russia of the consequences.


49 posted on 06/06/2011 9:56:46 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: skr

These libs just cannot accept the fact that Palin is once intelligent cookie. It isn’t luck, it’s innate intelligence, and wisdom.


50 posted on 06/06/2011 10:04:16 AM PDT by Maryhere ("HE comes to rule the earth")
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