Posted on 06/05/2011 10:07:38 AM PDT by PROCON
(Reuters) - Defense Secretary Robert Gates bluntly told Marines on Sunday that they won't be able to opt out of their enlistment just because they disagree with a government decision to end a ban on gays serving openly in the military.
Gates, who is on a tour of Afghanistan to bid farewell to the troops before stepping down at the end of the month, was quizzed by a Marine sergeant about the controversial policy during a question and answer session at a base in southwestern Helmand Province.
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Ping!
they want marriage,but they won't do it if it means paying more taxes and facing actual responsiblity....
Imagine what our military will look like in 20 years. Just another way to destroy America.
If I had joined up before the Government forced the perverts on the military I would sue the Government for forcing me to work with perverts.
Time that normal people take a stand and fight back.
In the end, if there is either policy direction that someone in uniform disagrees with -- and I've said this before -- the answer -- and you feel so strongly about it -- you know, the answer is not advocacy; it is in fact to vote with your feet."
Gates is a lying scumbag. I predict the butt bandits will have a field day. No one will be able to do or say anything about it, because the military will be overly protective of the butt bandits to prove how this new way will work. They will also promote butt bandits over others just because of their butt banditry just as the army promoted females ahead of more qualified males in the mid 70s.
And they will leave after their enlistments are up, en masse!
A buddy of mine was a Drill Sargeant at Fort Sill during that time.
The integration of male and female basic training turned out to be a nightmare because of the different PT standards, sexual shenanigans, etc.
I think these issues will be handled kinda quietly amongst the Marines. Their may be some sniper like activity and sappers in the gate kicking the hell out of a select person or two. An advanced “blanket party” if you will.
Races can be integrated. Sexes can not.
“army promoted females ahead of more qualified males in the mid 70s.”
Not just the army, and it hasn’t ended. It will also never end for the sodomites.
They need to allow people to opt out with full benefits given that the Government has significantly changed the deal on them.
“army promoted females ahead of more qualified males in the mid 70s.”
Not just the army, and it hasn’t ended. It will also never end for the sodomites.
We have clueless morons running things now.
The nightmare is getting worse. They’ve announced plans to put women in subs (sir, I’m pregnant. Surface this sub now or I’ll sue you for discrimination!).
Next up is putting women in combat. See Pelosi commission.
The feminists are jealous of the all-male Seals.
Many of these people joined the military when certain standards were in effect. A unilateral change in those standards represents a breach of the contract under which those persons joined the military.
I have no problem with deviants and feminists dying in combat; apparently it’s their country now anyway.
I’m really puzzled that any “normal” people even see it as something worth dying for anymore - their country is gone.
Really bad choice of words, brave men are dying almost daily for this great Country!
Expect more flaming!
There is an opt out: You can get out when your enlistment is up. I predict a lot of people will do that, not re-enlist. Meantime, for those unfortunate people fighting a war, who are forced to jump into a foxhole with a couple of perverts... Ever heard of fragging? It’d take about two seconds to decide.
The Marine is upholding his contract with the military. However, the military is not reciprocating it to the Marine. Instead he is being told too bad.
We are going to force the queers down your throat!
Changing the rules in the middle of the game, how nice.
As a former member of the few and the proud, my loyalties are to the old corps, not this new fag outrage!
FUBO!
It won’t be worth a tinkers dam!
And you can bet the J.A.G offices will become full of fags.
The government broke the dam contract!
Why not let the hetro’s exit?
The government broke the dam contract!
Why not let the hetro’s exit?
I don’t assume the death of our servicemen overseas is automatically related to this country at all; the relationships become less clear with every passing day.
If people have an issue with that, so be it.
This LGBT agenda is being pushed in our military, schools, radio, t.v., music, music videos, magazines, and virutally everywhere one turns.
I am sad for the future of Truth, our counrty, our children and our world.
This Marine should have known better than to ask. Should servicemembers have the privilege to annul their contracts simply because of a legal change with which they disagree? Or because of a perceived grievance that the DoD “changed the deal” on them? When you sign the contract, you agree to subject yourself to policies you might not like (even ones not yet in effect); the best you can do is to serve out your contract honorably and vote different candidates into office.
If I ever meet Gates in person I will punch him in the mouth for being a sellout. That is a promise.
Yes, and what serious person is going to want to join the Marines?
The Marines were the last bastion of war fighters. A few good men (real men) could concentrate on combat and not be distracted by gooey-eyed gays and helpless females.
Thank you, Secretary Gates.
Just last year, ADM Mullen said anybody that doesn't agree with the new policy should leave: In the end, if there is either policy direction that someone in uniform disagrees with -- and I've said this before -- the answer -- and you feel so strongly about it -- you know, the answer is not advocacy; it is in fact to vote with your feet."
And why did he not give this advice to the sodomites instead of championing their advocacy?
The “Old Line” non coms are still in charge and they can make life miserable for the DADT’ers especially when it comes to assignments.
Good luck with those re-ups, Secy Gates, Prez Obama and all you Dems in Congress who thought this was such a great idea.
>We are going to force the queers down your throat!<
Okay .... I need to take a shower after that one!
Somehow I don’t see a battle cry changing and being successful ....
“Rump Rangers Lead the Way”
NOT!
>Good luck with those re-ups, Secy Gates, Prez Obama and all you Dems in Congress who thought this was such a great idea.<
It will allow Rangels idea of a draft to gain momentum - he has been pushing it for years.
Now let’s hear from the recuiters. Is this years crop of high school grads avoiding them? What about the 2007 grads who are finishing thei 1st hitch. Hmm.
I can’t remember anymore how the draft worked. Was there an option, once drafted, for what branch they’d serve in? Or, were draftees put in different branches on some rotating basis? All the Marines I knew had signed up voluntarily.
Our all-volunteer military is very impressive vs. having a bunch of draftees who don’t want to be there. But I do think we need something, some way for all our citizens to have some personal investment through service of one form or another to the country. As it is, there’s a limited number of men/women and their families who really have a stake and who bear the burden.
All of this “political correctness crap” can’t last forever, because it will succeed in creating a high finite number of new problems! Down with all political correctness, asap and please!
Our recruited military would revert rapidly to conscription if we had a war like Korea, Vietnam or anything else which faced a force comparable to our own. As long as our enemy is weak, we can afford to lower standards.
My son is in Navy JROTC and says he’d never join under these conditions with this idiot CIC in the White House!
Thunderstorm heading, turning computer off and will ping later.
Did it occur to you that since Obozo's agenda is the destruction of the United States, decimating the Military is high up on his "bucket list"?
Regards,
GtG
That waits to be seen.
Right now, retention rates are so high that Gates has advocated pay cuts and the Navy, for one, is kicking out sailors left and right.
Enlistment and reenlistment goals are being met in all branches of the military.
The Navy and Air force will always have high retention rates because a majority are not involved in land combat, living in the trenches, and getting mortared and rocketed on a daily basis. Marines and Army are going to be greatly impacted by this policy, and I expect to see more of the infantry types leave at a higher rate than normal. The going is good in the navy and air force these days, I wouldn’t leave either.
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