Posted on 06/01/2011 6:18:44 AM PDT by marktwain
they way they piled in if the victim had intended to fire, several rounds at the groin or leg area of that stack would have laid the whole team down quickly.
total screw up...
“to say nothing of justifying the search itself. “
Malfeasance,resulting in the murder of an innocent man. This case must be investigated all the way up to Dupnik, and the judge the issued the warrant.
I suppose. Seems to me any rational person who has been to the movies, or watched TV, has an inkling of how the pros handle these things. The release of the video only confirmed what most of us already knew. Did anyone really expect to see professionalism with a buffoon like Dupnik at the helm?
The only surprise is they didn't shoot each other.
Anyone that read through the article and has even a passing interest in the affairs will readily see that this group of officers did not follow even the most basic of protocols for this type of police work.
Note the Navy SEAL who took out Osama Bin Laden with two rounds and two rounds only, one to the chest, one to the head. This is a classic example of cool, perfect shot placement under stress, and is precisely the sort of thing SWAT troops are supposed to be able to do. After all, if they are no better at this sort of thing than the average street cop, all that has been done is to give average street cops more destructive, longer ranged weapons.
Take a look at the video, read the analysis, and try to tell me that these officers followed logical police procedures and were not negligent.
From the video, it should readily apparent that these officers forming the fatal funnel should have either continued the dynamic entry or backed off.
In such circumstances, some will claim that when confronted by someone holding a gun, or even when the police suspect someone is armed—as in the Erik Scott case—the police may blithely fire away. This is dangerous nonsense.
Remember that SWAT operators should be better trained and more experienced than their patrol brethren. They are expected to be able to wait those few fractions of a second longer before shooting necessary to be certain that shooting is absolutely required. In a nation with a Second Amendment, and where citizens may carry concealed handguns in most states, police officers simply cannot shoot anyone seen holding a weapon.
Was this done at all? A casual observer of this video would come away with the impression that these were just Keystone cops in tactical gear.
Finally, I ask you look at the Definition of the concept of Goodwill
{Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary}
a : a kindly feeling of approval and support : benevolent interest or concern b (1) : the favor or advantage that a business has acquired especially through its brands and its good reputation
The government and law enforcement are in such a position as to warrant that they need to rely on the ‘Goodwill’ of the public. How much of that vital asset is used up with incidents such as this?
Yes of course he would not have been arrested. They didn’t find anything in the house after they shot the guy and left him dying in his own blood for over an hour. If you knock on somebody’s door you have to give them time to answer not to mention be ready to provide ID if they ask for it before opening up. This was just legalized murder. It could happen to you or me tomorrow.
I certainly got a chuckle over this line, and thanks for posting marktwain.
Thanks Joe!
Thanks for setting us all straight n00b
Sure it is. Some a**hole put a round in his head to make sure there were only cops talking about what happened.
No one made you read it. I did, and it didn’t take long. It isn’t anywhere close to book length.
A 4th grader could see the tragic comedy playing out in that video an the multitude of excuses that department made to the presstitutes an the populace.
Overhaul on a national level needed on need an reasoning for dynamic entry...
Dangerous for all involved ...good,bad or innocent .
You are giving them way to much credit, no way can they remember all of those signals.
Now, who will hold them to account for this fiasco?
My hand signal to them at bottom of my FR page.
Bfl
Good lord an the voters.....
Right or wrong, if there are bad guys in Pima County, you can bet they’re going to stock up on grenades and now plan to use secondary exits/entrances whenever guests arrive.
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