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AZ Police Under Scrutiny After Opening Fire on and Killing Marine (admit nothing illegal in home)
Fox News ^ | 05/27/2011 | Fox News

Posted on 05/27/2011 3:03:59 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

A Marine who was fatally shot in his Arizona home earlier this month reportedly never fired upon the SWAT team that fired at him 70 times. Jose Guerena, a 26-year-old father of two and veteran of the Iraq war, died on May 5 in his home near Tucson, Ariz., during an anti-drug police raid. Authorities initially reported that they thought Guerena fired upon them, but an investigation revealed that no shots were fired, ABC News reports.

The SWAT team descended upon Guerena's home thinking it was one of four houses associated with a drug smuggling operation. But nothing illegal was found during a subsequent search of the residence.

Guerena’s wife, Vanessa, is determined to clear her husband’s good name. She said the couple's son continues to ask: "Is he a bad guy?"

The five SWAT team members remain on active duty. No criminal charges have been filed and no disciplinary action taken.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: banglist; dncunions; donutwatch; dupnik; guerena; joseguerena; pimacounty; sheriffdipstick; sheriffdupnik; togetherwethrive; tucson; unions; unionthugs
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1 posted on 05/27/2011 3:04:04 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Boohooo...they made a mistake.
At least they got some real training and now have new stories to tell in bars.

/s


2 posted on 05/27/2011 3:07:08 PM PDT by mewykwistmas (Lost your job as a birther under Obama? Become a 'deather'! Where's Bin Laden's death certificate?)
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"She said the couple's son continues to ask: "Is he a bad guy?"

Heartbreaking.

3 posted on 05/27/2011 3:08:44 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

70 times.


4 posted on 05/27/2011 3:09:50 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Funny how a blunder by the Tuscon Police suddenly spins into the Arizona Police. That tag of deflection is no accident.
It doesn’t mean that the Tucson cops screwed up any less, but it gives the media a chance to help the unwary blame a state for a single agency.


5 posted on 05/27/2011 3:14:23 PM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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It is to increase confusion and obfuscation. It also may be used to say they (SWAT F**KS) can’t get a fair trial in all of Arizona if it comes down to that.


6 posted on 05/27/2011 3:16:18 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: OldNewYork

“70 times”

Figure at least 65 misses? Maybe more? How crazy is that, imagine close to 70 rounds flying until they hit who knows what downrange.


7 posted on 05/27/2011 3:17:47 PM PDT by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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To: Steamburg

Your point is valid, but this didn’t happen in a vacuum... sadly it happens far too many times all across this country.

Infact were we not discussing a questionable shooting in Las vegas by LVPD not too long ago, where the gunned down a West Point Graduate who was shopping in COSTCO?

If I posted every single story I found of a cop being arrested or sued for this or that... that’s all FR would be, bad cop stories...

http://www.injusticeeverywhere.com/

http://twitter.com/#!/InjusticeNews


8 posted on 05/27/2011 3:18:09 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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FReepers are probably tired of hearing me say this,,,, but,,,, There was no good reason for a SWAT assault. They could have sent a team to serve the search warrant on his wife while he was at work. And sent a squad car to pick him up at work if necessary. Malfeasance! And her lawyers should drive this point tirelessly! The cops will crow about his “assault” weapon, but that is beside the point! A raid should never have even been considered! Dupnik should hang for this. as he’s obviously responsible for the decision to go in guns blazing!


9 posted on 05/27/2011 3:18:39 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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“Guerena’s wife called 911 begging for medical assistance. But authorities reportedly didn’t enter the home for a hour, while they determined the scene was secure. By then, it was too late to save Guerena.”

Probably didn’t even hit him 5 times out of the 70..... especially if he made it for more than an hour. Wow.....


10 posted on 05/27/2011 3:21:06 PM PDT by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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I guess I am remiss by not saying how bad I feel for the wife. My heart goes out to her and her family.

On the other side, if my marksmanship was this poor, even at age 10, my dad would have taken away my guns and never let me hunt again.


11 posted on 05/27/2011 3:23:57 PM PDT by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
A raid should never have even been considered!

Shades of Waco, which could have been avoided too... but the SWAT/Gestapo Troopers wanted to play with their toys...

12 posted on 05/27/2011 3:24:11 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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Maybe they need more range time. But they also don’t seem to be assessing where their bullets are going or have gone, and what effect they’ve had.

I’m surprised if they’re still on active duty. It doesn’t say much for our country if killing another person in your line of work domestically is just another day on the job.


13 posted on 05/27/2011 3:24:24 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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Aren’t these Dupnik’s people?


14 posted on 05/27/2011 3:25:47 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

ping


15 posted on 05/27/2011 3:26:16 PM PDT by FoxPro
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To: Steamburg

It wasn’t Tucson cops, btw. The SWAT team is made up of officers from Pima County—Marana, Sahuarita, Oro Valley, and I don’t know where else. This was the Pima County Sheriff’s Department SWAT team. They are not the same as Tucson city police.


16 posted on 05/27/2011 3:30:08 PM PDT by petitfour (Are you a Dead Fish American?)
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To: mass55th

Yes.


17 posted on 05/27/2011 3:36:09 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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To: OldNewYork
It doesn’t say much for our country if killing another person in your line of work domestically is just another day on the job.

For them (SWAT) it is, because they firmly believe the cops are at war with the populace and they are some kind of SPECOPS Unit...


18 posted on 05/27/2011 3:40:07 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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Unjustified Homicide?

Some big bucks will be paid and many heads are about to roll.How to you charge a whole SWAT team with manslaughter?

Be interesting to see what the Grand Jury says.


19 posted on 05/27/2011 3:40:17 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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We’re going to see the police state combined with armed law abiding citizens becoming a nightmare.

Breaking down doors and entering homes by police should not be the norm, it should be the very rare exception. We citizens need to demand that. It shouldn’t be about procuring some marijuana or some other relatively minor non-violent offense, it should ONLY happen when rescuing innocent victims in danger. (Protect and defend)

A law abiding citizen that is armed are a real threat to break and enter police because they have no reason to ever believe police will break down their doors. Citizens will shoot first at those who break in and they should. My first thought would probably be these are criminals attempting to rob me, not police regardless of what they claim or say.

Many law abiding citizens people keep loaded firearms by their bedside in the unlikely event that someone might break down their door and attempt to rape or rob their family. It isn’t because they live in a high crime area but because they were Boy Scouts and they abide by the creed “Be Prepared”.

The real conflict comes when law abiding citizens are targeted due to mistakes or set-ups. When someone breaks your door down at 4AM and yells “police” (or whatever they yell) you have a split second to decide whether it is cheap shot to neutralize your defenses or for you to become a victim. Talk is cheap. That’s why these no knock entries at 4AM must be stopped except for the most very few cases. Do citizens trust the bureaucracy to do it right and actually protect and defend?


20 posted on 05/27/2011 3:41:40 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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