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Pool Danger Prompts Massive Recall
NBC Connecticut ^

Posted on 05/26/2011 8:49:28 PM PDT by matt04

Memorial Day weekend is here which means it's the official start of swimming pool season. This year though, you may want to think twice before jumping in and making a splash.

There has been a nationwide recall of 1 million pool and spa drain covers that could trap you or your child, despite their federal "seal" of approval.

"We're finding out the laboratories misrepresented their testing procedures," said Albert Rizzo, of Rizzo Pools in Newington.

Rizzo says the timing couldn't be worse.

"If you have one main drain, I would tell you not to swim in the pool. Now I don't expect any of the kids to listen though, so my advice would be keep them in the shallow end and away from the deep end where the main drains are," Rizzo said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcconnecticut.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: howardhughes; moonbat; nannystaters; swimmingpools
What perfect timing to discover the complete failure to test the drain covers properly. How much money will this cost for homeowners, schools, hotels, resorts and municipal pools to take the necessary steps to put the correct drain covers on.
1 posted on 05/26/2011 8:49:35 PM PDT by matt04
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To: matt04
If you have one main drain, I would tell you not to swim in the pool. Now I don't expect any of the kids to listen though, so my advice would be keep them in the shallow end and away from the deep end where the main drains are

Enough hype? Really the faulty cover will somehow kill you if you swim in any part of the pool. Give me a break. I have swam in numerous polls with various main drain configurations, even swimming in the deep end near them and haven't drowned or been remotely close to being sucked in yet.

2 posted on 05/26/2011 8:53:54 PM PDT by matt04
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To: matt04

C-r-e-w C-u-t! :)


3 posted on 05/26/2011 8:56:41 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: matt04
My son-in-law, the pool service company owner, has installed many retrofits correctly since the new law went into effect three or so years ago, even learning to scuba dive to do it efficiently. He discovered that many scam artists arose who install substandard covers, meaning those pool owners end up paying twice.

It's been a costly nightmare for many, but of course that's as nothing compared to averting tragedies.

4 posted on 05/26/2011 8:58:50 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God is, and (2) God is good?)
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You, a vigorous adult male, haven’t been sucked in, but several children have—it is they who are at risk, not you. Congress passed this law after former Secretary of State James Brady’s granddaughter was killed by a faulty drain.


5 posted on 05/26/2011 9:02:14 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God is, and (2) God is good?)
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To: matt04

Kids sit on drains, either get trapped and drown or get disemboweled, which is pretty gross. It’s rare but it happens.

It seems like it wouldn’t be likely to happen in a residential pool where the drain is in the deep end. A public wading pool is dangerous but I would think they’ve all been fixed.

My pool was built with double drains but they are 10 feet under water. Can’t imagine Small kid getting down there.


6 posted on 05/26/2011 9:06:22 PM PDT by keat
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To: Hebrews 11:6

True it has been mostly children who have been severely injured or died in cases of missing, broken, or faulty drain covers. As the article states, they never tested the covers correctly before certifying them as meeting the requirements of the new law. Complete failure on their part.


7 posted on 05/26/2011 9:07:08 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Hebrews 11:6
Congress passed this law after former Secretary of State James Brady’s granddaughter was killed by a faulty drain.

Shaking my head at the thought of Congress regulating pools. Just ridiculous - as are the people who think this is what Congress should be doing.

8 posted on 05/26/2011 9:08:12 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: matt04
IMO, friggin nanny-state interference.

Next there will be OSHA specifications for proper placement of the drinks cart to the edge of the pool.
Ridiculous.
9 posted on 05/26/2011 9:18:06 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito Ergo Conservitus.)
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To: matt04

I have no idea whether or not my main drain cover is safe or not. Whenever we have guest with children or teenagers over, I simply divert the suction to the skimmers.

Non mandated solution that is guaranteed safe.


10 posted on 05/26/2011 9:26:27 PM PDT by phoneman08 (Reagan conservative union member. Not as rare as you think!)
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To: Tainan

I don’t want to see anyone injured, especially a kid, but you do have a point. Rather than get in the mode of relying on government bureaucrats and lawmakers to set technical standards I’d rather see free market competition providing options and individuals making the right choices. A good pool installer would probably be a much better source of information to do it right than what is written in some law they are forced to comply with that may or may not represent the best solution.


11 posted on 05/26/2011 9:26:50 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: matt04
Pennington's advice: Replace any flat drain covers. Install a vacuum release device. Tell kids to stay away from the drain. And finally, if your child gets stuck, roll them off the drain, don't pull straight up.

It might be a good idea to turn the pump off first. Actually, if you don't have two drains or one of the safer drain covers you could probably turn the pump off when the kids are using the pool to be on the safe side, and then turn it back on later.

12 posted on 05/26/2011 9:28:45 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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On Friday, his store will call the thousands of customers who will now need their faulty covers replaced.

So this is a new thing?
13 posted on 05/26/2011 9:31:37 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Hebrews 11:6

Sh+ that Brady can’t get a break


14 posted on 05/26/2011 9:57:22 PM PDT by Porterville (Methink'st thou art a general offence and every man should beat thee.)
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To: Porterville
It wasn't Brady - it was James Baker's granddaughter - which makes the legislation even more ridiculous. Only 11 people have drowned from this 'defect' since 1999. That's one a year. You are 50 times more likely to die from a lightning strike than you are to die from getting stuck to a pool drain. Given these facts, one would think this is not the type of tragedy that is crying out for redress via a brand new section in the United States Code.

Put bluntly, this was feelgood legislation that was passed to make the family of a Washington DC bigshot feel better. Conservatives should find it truly disturbing that if some Washington DC insider has some tragedy occur in their family, they stand a good chance of imposing their will on all of their fellow citizens through ridiculous legislation that their fellow DC insiders pass in order to make all of them feel good.

Again this is just ridiculous and is emblematic of everything that is wrong with Washington DC.

15 posted on 05/26/2011 10:09:41 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Porterville

That Brady was never secretary of state. He was Reagan’s press secretary. Maybe he means James Baker.


16 posted on 05/26/2011 10:22:35 PM PDT by Defiant (When Democrats lose voters, they manufacture new voters instead of convincing the existing voters.)
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To: vbmoneyspender

And from what I have read about the drownings, several were from either broken or missing drain covers, leaving just a hole whit a pipe at the bottom, no plastic cover over it. And as I said earlier, to me it would seem you would have try to get stuck to a drain.

Even if it is a new pool, with two drains connected to the same pipe whit the safe covers on it, I’m sure you could find a way to block both drains, rendering any new laws on design and covers useless.


17 posted on 05/26/2011 10:22:36 PM PDT by matt04
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it would seem you would have try to get stuck to a drain

The problem is that stupid things are the very kind of things kids like to do.

18 posted on 05/27/2011 2:06:23 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Our Constitution: the new Inconvenient Truth)
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Geez... how did we survive back in the 50’s and 60’s with so many irresponsibly designed pools?????
Let’s just mandate that any and every design of any and every thing to do with anyone’s life has to be absolutely, certifiably without flaw.... okay...now I feel better. I only wish I had a lawyer in the family.


19 posted on 05/27/2011 2:12:13 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: matt04

>>or been remotely close to being sucked in yet.

Yeah, they get “sucked” into the plumbing...

No moron, they can’t get enough upward movement to escape drowning. Not everyone’s a floating, buoyant chubby.


20 posted on 05/27/2011 2:14:47 AM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Use to teach a kid... don’t touch a hot stove... don’t go near that vent, drain or whatever... I remember being taught these things. Don’t climb up on the roof and jump with your pillowcase parachute... dumb stuff like that...


21 posted on 05/27/2011 2:14:54 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Defiant
Well, I remember getting stuck on the bottom of the drain when I was a kid.... not a good thing to have around.

I also don't give my kid hot dogs. 17% of all choking incident with kids involve the perfect throat plug.

22 posted on 05/27/2011 6:40:29 AM PDT by Porterville (Methink'st thou art a general offence and every man should beat thee.)
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To: matt04

It’s happened many times, too many times, just google it.


23 posted on 05/27/2011 6:44:14 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: antceecee

And still some of them just have to try it for themselves. Or they think those dangers only apply to other people. Teens particularly have an immortality complex. They can dance on the top of a car going 150 and nothing is going to happen. Even sober kids do these things. Even the nicest kids in the world die this way. I know several cases of wonderful smart kids from the nicest families dying from stupid accidents. How about three kids on an ATV flying through the woods? One dead. How about texting while flying down a two lane road? One dead. Both were sober.


24 posted on 05/27/2011 8:44:26 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Our Constitution: the new Inconvenient Truth)
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To: Porterville

Why are you telling me this? I think you meant to respond to someone else.


25 posted on 05/27/2011 11:04:08 AM PDT by Defiant (When Democrats lose voters, they manufacture new voters instead of convincing the existing voters.)
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To: vbmoneyspender; Defiant

Of course I meant Baker. Thanks for the correction.


26 posted on 05/27/2011 6:02:57 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God is, and (2) God is good?)
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To: Right Wing Assault

They always will and legislating will not change it. Our living environment cannot be designed to eliminate all dangers. Common sense needs to kick in.


27 posted on 05/27/2011 6:33:30 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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